First off everyone knows I have dogs so you could be anybody. Second how many times have I tried to contact you in the last two days?? I have responded to you and I have signed up for a vip just to IM you. I do not create negativity, you do. I am here telling everyone and private messaging you and all you do is attack me again. What is the deal here? Nobody is a jerk here accept all the guys and girls who make themselves so. SO Why are you still attacking me??? I will make anything up to you that you say I have done. What is the problem??? Know what? Forget it......You are not worth my feelings. I am a human I don't need to be made to feel bad by someone I do not know.
I have now heard it from 7 different people and it is time it stopped. This person told me that a provider told him that I stole her fiance and he died from a disease.
This is the boring truth:
Before I ever had a website I advertised in the paper. I got a call from a nice guy for an appointment and he offered to do a website for me. I said yes and was very excited. He did a site and got me online. I saw him a few times for business and then he moved away. We kept in touch. I did not even know the provider at the time and He didn't tell me he was dating her till I had seen him a few times and he knew her and I had nmet and were going to do some doubles. He asked me not to tell her he had done appointments with me. He is alive and well and I still talk to him when he is in town because he still helps me with computer stuff from time to time. Not so exciting is it??? I do know where she got the base for the story though......
Yes I am a widow.
My husband died in 1998 from Cancer. Long before I came back to Arizona and long before I ever met any of the providers here. THE POINT IS if you have questions about people you should investigate before perpetuating the rumor because it can be hurtful. Keep in mind that when a girl is saying bad things about other girls it is usually to try to ruin their business or their reputation. I have never done anything to any girls and have always tried to be helpful to others. I am only sharing this because it is a serious issue and is something people need to know.
Also to the people who are writing telling me they heard it from a friend of mine.....She was only telling people what she was told and thinking she was protecting her clients. She did not start this rumor. She was the first to tell me. I waited until I heard it from 6 more people and they were clients. They all heard it from the source. So be thankful that we at least have providers that look out for their friends. Also keep in mind that before you try to protect people from something bad make sure it is true.
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I am very sorry about the loss of your husband. However, I feel like I have just walked back into high school. Rodney King said it best "Can't we all just get along?"
I get along with everyone including the provider involved. The people I knew in high school did not behave this way. I did not put this out for you to jump in and make comments like this. THAT is high school. I am simply getting tired of getting e-mails and calls asking about this.
Eeeek! I don't believe Angelina was being mean. I don't know her, but her posts have always been great and never hurtful. Unfortunately, this medium lends itself to misunderstanding because it is hard to put nuance or facial expression or tone of voice in a typed comment.
There didn't need to be a comment made. This was not an arguement or a fight. I was simply letting people know that they have to check things out when it come to hearing things about other people, they are not always true.
This is a public DISCUSSION forum/board so anything that is posted is up for comment by anybody who wants to make one. Angelina was just sharing her thoughts on the subject (in a very polite way) which is what we're all here for...at least that's what I thought.
One is your side...the other is the truth. What a drama queen! Poor Poor Donna the victim! I thought you left town because of the drama in Phoenix...why are you now starting some? Thought this board was to inspire and advertise...not to bitch. Why not send the truth-teller an email and ask them about it instead of making yourself look childish here?
First of all I have spoken with the provider and she denied it completely. You say you know the truth? You don't even know me and you are attacking me. THAT is childish. If you have a personal problem with me give me a call and tell me what it is. I would be more than willing to make it up to you if I have done something wrong. Second, to Mya I do recommend you to my clients and I have heard great things about you. I am not sure why you would say that about somewhere in the middle because again you do not know me and seem smart enough to not believe something you hear without at least making sure it is true. I called you a couple of months ago to ask you about something I had heard about you. This came from the same person. You didn't return my call. I did not go telling my clients what I had heard. I only want to let people know that they need to check into things before they perpetuate rumors that they don't know are true.
Also I came back here because my old job wanted me back and made me a good offer.
I will still continue to recommend you to my clients because of the good things I hear almost every day about you. I will continue to perpetuate those rumors about you
I do appreciate your comments too. I would have let it go as you suggested but three this week alone kinda put me over the edge. My business has been fine but it still hurts my feelings.
Childish? I remember bookig a session with you...driving all the way to BFE AJ...ringing the doorbell only to hear dogs barking. I called and left two messages with no return call. Oh well...at least the dogs sounded nice. So who is childish here? You for not answering your door...or me for driving almost an hour and wasting time? Come to find out this was regular practice by you so I was relieved it wasn't me. I remember last year all the drama how the guys here in PHX are jerks and how you are tired of the negativity and was moving. Well here you are...back creating negativity. Did I ever come here and gripe about you standing me up? No. Mainly because I was embarrassed but then I found out this was the norm for you. Still....I let it go. Same as you should but can't seem to.
You are just mean. I have never been mean to anyone and if that is how you feel then I can't do anything. I have written you and tried to be fair.
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First off everyone knows I have dogs so you could be anybody. Second how many times have I tried to contact you in the last two days?? I have responded to you and I have signed up for a vip just to IM you. I do not create negativity, you do. I am here telling everyone and private messaging you and all you do is attack me again. What is the deal here? Nobody is a jerk here accept all the guys and girls who make themselves so. SO Why are you still attacking me??? I will make anything up to you that you say I have done. What is the problem??? Know what? Forget it......You are not worth my feelings. I am a human I don't need to be made to feel bad by someone I do not know.
I read the boards but rarely post anymore but I do want to say....Donna, it is a shame that anyone would care to say hurtful things about you. I don't care what anyone says about you because I think you are an awesome lady and absolutely gorgeous too. I really enjoyed meeting you a while back. I do hope to see you soon if my schedule ever lightens up. I have stayed away from the scene due to Joe's operation last time and do not like reading about his possible antics again....I'll just continue to stay away for now. I am glad you stayed in Phoenix Donna, you don't have to defend yourself on that one. formerly:stonecoldSA
Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Wow. How clever. My son has won and lost hundreds of Special Olympics races over the years, but never once tried to make himself seem bigger by belittling others in a backhanded way.
Do you feel big now? Do you feel funny now?
Okay, so much for my anger. I will take for granted that you did not mean any harm or offense you just thought you were being witty. Seriously, "retard" and "retarded" jokes and references are incredibly painful for the part of the DD population that is high functioning enough to know that the references are meant to be demeaning. There are all kinds of names and references to ethnic groups that you would never use today that people used to think were funny and "didn't mean any harm." Just understand that not "meaning" any harm is not the same as not "doing" any harm.
You are a very nice and genuine person Donna, and I for one hold you dear to my heart. I would hope everyone realizes what is being said about you should reflect not upon you, but upon the person who said it. You have a good reputation here in Phoenix. Though you speak your mind when you feel something needs to be said, some people do not know you and misunderstand where you are coming from.
I also know your feelings are hurt and I know this post may have hurt you even further. I know you would not intentionally harm a spider. Just for everyone else's knowledge she would capture the silly thing and set it free outside rather than squash it. I think a lot of things were said here that either should not have been said at all (namely anything rude, disrespectful, and demeaning) or should have been more carefully poised.
There is no wrong in finding the truth. Everyone should be able to spot a wolf in sheep's clothing and I remind you a disguise will fade in time while a genuine article will remain nearly the same. Be true to yourself and you will find yourself unknowingly being true to others around you.
I believe Donna was simply stating that she has done what she has been able to do. She confronted the source and was denied an honest response. People often by nature do not like to admit thier wrongs either out of spite or the poor self image they would find themselves facing.
Donna has continued to hear this vicious falsehood and merely wanted to acknowledge that although it has been said it has only the shred of truth pertaining to a loved one lost to her years ago. Now I may also state that a story spun however so vividly with bits of fact to camoflauge the lies will still do harm to a person, to a person's reputatuion, and to a person's business.
We are not discussing a simple white lie we are discussing someone's health status. To state that someone was/is sexually diseased most often will turn away new clientele. Most will simply want to avoid the possiblility that is true, other's could care less and will find an alternative provider, still other's will see through the lies and the truth will prevail.
Let us hope that all emotional outbursts and negativity aside that the truth will previal and the wolf will reveal itself as it accidentally trips on it's own camoflauge. LOL I for one believe, perhaps rather optimistically, that good out weighs negative in our crazy, topsy turvey, mixed up world.
Be happy, Be true to yourself. Good wishes to all.
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