How you get and keep clients is a complete mystery. Did you ever think that maybe a prospective client might want to see if you had an exception to your regular schedule?
For my part, I would acknowledge the provider's stated schedule and ask if they had any flexibility, but I don't understand how you can project such attitude and expect anyone to bother dealing with it
I can't and won't sugar coat this, so all of you sensitive men I would suggest not to read it.
I have an auto response on my email that clearly states my screening protocol and most importantly my hours of operation. Yet I continuously have men asking for times or days that I don't offer, I will never respond back to you.
You are grown ass men who I know can read a short email!!! You're either being lazy or flat out rude and disrespectful both of which I don't tolerate, period.
Between school and training I don't have the time in a day to hold your hand through the process, nor should I because again you're grown ass men. Get it together and take 30 seconds to read my availability, I will say thank you to the few men out there who read my hours and also respect my busy civil life
I completely agree with you Bailey. If they are to lazy to read your email and or contact info stating you availability, then they are not worth your time. The first thing I look at when researching is not their pictures but their availability and whether they may host or not. Stick to your guns(pun intended...lol) and ignore those bad apples. E
In all fairness, you should know by now that grown ass men are really stubborn, if they have been driving the wrong way on the interstate for the past 4 hours, they will still be too stubborn to stop and for directions. Despite all these indisputable things, you think they will do things like read your email and follow YOUR directions? To a real man, that is like reading a map, it indicates defeat. Real men just use the force. They don't need to read no stinkin' emails!
Real men would have a GPS to navigate my directions
Posted By: maxwell44
In all fairness, you should know by now that grown ass men are really stubborn, if they have been driving the wrong way on the interstate for the past 4 hours, they will still be too stubborn to stop and for directions. Despite all these indisputable things, you think they will do things like read your email and follow YOUR directions? To a real man, that is like reading a map, it indicates defeat. Real men just use the force. They don't need to read no stinkin' emails!
Don't fahget doe, we gotta' get dese mudda fukkahs to dig daye own holes in da desert foist... I don't dig no holes see. Now we gotta' get 'em to dig at night, 'cause you get caught diggin' holes, den you jist got more holes to dig, an den, befohr ya' know it, holes all NIGHT chu be diggin'!
What happens is that when a guy decides he wants to contact a beautiful lady as yourself, more often or not he is thinking with his little head. I have read several studies noting that the little head is unable to read. I believe this is true because when I read these studies they were not in Playboy, Penthouse or any other magazine of that type
I don't need to take a shot at you Jeffrey. You're just upset because I won't see you again, so you've decided to express your feelings about it in the open. I'm actually flattered, you've seen many many girls, I must have ranked in your top 3.
These boards are for people to post and mingle, so apparently all of us are here to see ourselves post
Posted By: JEFFREY
..."You're just such a B&TC#, who really cares?" LOL. Some people think you just post to see yourself post. Now, take a shot at me!
Thx for the PM, and yes, please be flattered! Not top-3, though, but just outside the Top-10, somewhere between 12 & 15, actually. For a slut like myself (your description of me LOL), that's a nice, high rating! Thx for taking the time to explain, nd best of luck in future endeavors.
You're very welcome, and thank you for the weird woman like drama
Posted By: JEFFREY
Thx for the PM, and yes, please be flattered! Not top-3, though, but just outside the Top-10, somewhere between 12 & 15, actually. For a slut like myself (your description of me LOL), that's a nice, high rating! Thx for taking the time to explain, nd best of luck in future endeavors.
There is really some good comments posted. I agree that good hobbyist should be afforded special treatment. Some of the guys that write reviews appear to be degrading to the providers like it is cool. Maybe we should have a forum to rate us hobbyist... I will be your good apple any time Kelsi!!
Bailey. This is an informal activity. To be kind, ladies do a lot of misrepresentation or stretching the truth with a lot of things. Examples: Lying about their general age, using someone else's pics as their own without tellling clients, inconsistent screening practices, not telling clients when/if they use assistants, inconsistent menus, lying about whether their boobs are real or fake, etc. These are all things that reputable ladies with tons of good reviews do.
Since that's the case, why should hobbyists expect that a lady's posted availability would be set in stone? I guarantee that there are some clients or appointment offers that you would bend your schedule for. Why shouldn't hobbyists inquire about what the deal is?
I suggest that you stop giving these guys a hard time. Given how the hobby works they're behaving exactly as someone expects they would.
Then I give a HUGE THANKS and kudos to the circle of perfect gentlemen I see who raise the expectation bar and behave in the utmost professional, respectful and charming way. I'm not taking your advice Hostess588 and I'm sure the hell not going to bow down to anyone who is disrespectful.
This topic is done for me, time to move on to more fun things like mushroomhead dicks or perfect tits
Posted By: Hostess588
Bailey. This is an informal activity. To be kind, ladies do a lot of misrepresentation or stretching the truth with a lot of things. Examples: Lying about their general age, using someone else's pics as their own without tellling clients, inconsistent screening practices, not telling clients when/if they use assistants, inconsistent menus, lying about whether their boobs are real or fake, etc. These are all things that reputable ladies with tons of good reviews do.
Since that's the case, why should hobbyists expect that a lady's posted availability would be set in stone? I guarantee that there are some clients or appointment offers that you would bend your schedule for. Why shouldn't hobbyists inquire about what the deal is?
I suggest that you stop giving these guys a hard time. Given how the hobby works they're behaving exactly as someone expects they would.
I think I must have just stumbled into the Twilight Zone... & everything's black & white!
Not sure who you consider reputable, Hostess, b/c the ladies I consider reputable certainly HAVE consistent screening methods, ARE actually THE ONES who get their photos ripped vs ripping, & 18K spent on a boob job resulting in undetectable perfection is the whole idea & earned if she wishes to keep it a secret, when no one can tell the difference anyway! etc... Are we informed of every celebrity who undergoes cosmetic surgery & is it any of our business anyway? Likewise, it's certainly HER business & HER right if she wants to bend the rules for REGULARS who DESERVE special treatment... definitely not something she would advertise publicly, otherwise every disgusting, drooling daydreamer would impede, while he only books upon the perception he'll get the 'works' for near nothing. And this is ANYTHING but an INFORMAL activity, when our incalls must always be perfect for presentation, our attire tasteful & upscale for public profile, our appearance flawless & manicured at all times, a perfect attitude despite what kind of crap we endured that day as civvis... & being late is completely out of the question b/c our date is on a strict schedule, strategically planned, regarding reporting his whereabouts for every minute of every day. And intricately staying prepared to receive reviews which are based upon all this & thrown at us at random, while directly affecting our brand name/good will, is ANYTHING BUT INFORMAL.
I thank God for those of you who are considerate, coherent, literate, cooperative, & respectful. And those of these qualities that I have had the honor of meeting, you know who you are. You are GREATLY appreciated & even receive special treatment above all others. Yes Hostess, I play favorites... you play favorites.
In opposition, only a fool would think many Hobbyists don't stretch truth far (& I do not deem reputable!) when: they cancel on you b/c they double booked & you were their least favorite choice; or when they give you fake info for screening; or they promise they've never done this before as they hide behind a handle & frequent a board while writing its reviews; or swear to each of us, "you're the only one I see", when you never asked nor were concerned of this in the first place; or use you as a reference when you both know darn well you've never met, but they're hoping she doesn't verify & discover this deception; or embellish your review as if you suddenly developed post-meeting amnesia, only to appear the stud for gaining the acceptance & respect of certain board members; or, boldly, straight out write a complete fake review on you WHEN YOU BOTH KNOW FOR A FACT THAT YOU'VE NEVER MET, & though they know you know this, they'll lie to administrators anyway b/c they still need that VIP membership & this behavior is confirmed each time they get by with it, b/c after all, who's going to believe a hooker of misrepresentation who stretches the truth, over their word anyway?... Do you see the major lack of accuracy through stereo-typing, Hostess?
Sorry I'm a little passionate on the topic, but it needed to be said so I can go back to focusing on the good apples who deserve my bite.
This exactly proves my earlier post. Ladies are at their discretion to run their business as they see fit. And many ladies "bend the rules for REGULARS who DESERVE special treatment". How would a hobbyist know whether he is worthy of special treatment unless he asks?
I didn't stereotype anybody directly. I just said that few things in this hobby are as they seem. I would agree with you that hobbyists are guilty of bad behavior. But saying that a number of ladies aren't also guilty of bad behavior is stretching the truth in a major way.
The hobby is a cash business that involves people who like to remain anonymous to one another. Aside from reputation and trust, there is nothing that compels people in the hobby to behave properly. It's not like you can go to court to get paid if a client stiffs you or pays you in fake notes. I can't sue to get my money back if I find that a lady misrepresented herself in her photos or profile. That's the definition of informal IMO.
And so I agree to agree to disagree. Except, now that I've read your deeper insight regarding this, I'm sorry to say that I have TO agree, actually. Subsequently, I love the following part... well put & I truly couldn't agree more...
Posted By: Hostess588
The hobby is a cash business that involves people who like to remain anonymous to one another. Aside from reputation and trust, there is nothing that compels people in the hobby to behave properly. That's the definition of informal IMO.
So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
So if this were a judicial debate, I lose (damn it!), but that to me is always worthwhile b/c I instead learn something from it. BTW, please read my formal (no mockery intended) apology to you Hostess, at the bottom of this thread... I feel bad. Peace.
Damn girl, Hostess just annoyed me and gave me a little friction burn, you've got a full fledged raging bush fire from his/her comments. Guys whip out your hoses and put out those flames for her
It's horrible... I never know when an attack will consume me & render me capable of such offensive outburSONOFABITCH! See? It's absolutely frightening!
Posted By: baileym365
Damn girl, Hostess just annoyed me and gave me a little friction burn, you've got a full fledged raging bush fire from his/her comments. Guys whip out your hoses and put out those flames for her
Seriously, all kidding aside... Hostess, I want to sincerely apologize for snapping via my reply. Although I meant everything I said, I certainly could have shared my opinion with much more consideration for your feelings, if it even bothered you (if you even read it), & for that I am sorry. Not to blame by excuse, but it could be that I'm sexually frustrated & took it out on you... I tend to get a little moody when deprived, just as virtually everyone does, though two wrongs does not make a right. Anyway, feel free to PM me & vent how you really feel... I deserve it, will never speak of it, & won't complain (about it... no one can just expect me to quit complaining cold-turkey, in general!). I would have PMd you myself, but I felt I owed anyone who read my feedback, some kind of explanation for my trolling. Sorry everyone. And now I'm even more embarrassed, & created even more attention to myself yet, but whayya gonna' do? I'll just be over here laying by my dish.
You and Bailey have nothing to apologize for. Everyone's entitled to their opinion on here. And it wouldn't be much fun or informative if everyone always agreed. You guys take providing seriously and enjoy having clients that respect you and the way you do things. I'd like to think that I treat the ladies I see and with whom I correspond with kindness and respect. But like anything worth doing or having in life, it's not always smooth sailing and that especially applies to the hobby. It often pays to listen to others' views. Hopefully my posts gave a reasonable explanation about why certain hobbyists behave the way they do.
Honestly, many of my best sexual experiences have occurred when I've been angry, frustrated or stressed out about something. If I had the time, I'd definitely allow you to take your anger out on me
How you get and keep clients is a complete mystery. Did you ever think that maybe a prospective client might want to see if you had an exception to your regular schedule?
For my part, I would acknowledge the provider's stated schedule and ask if they had any flexibility, but I don't understand how you can project such attitude and expect anyone to bother dealing with it
I never apologized to you, nor will I for anything I said in my response. Don't be stating nonsense like that, just because Kelsi caved in. You may think providers should have to put up with disrespecting hobbyists, because that's what you expect them to do in this line of work.
I've got a new flash......Not this girl, I have far more self worth, even in a business that attempts to rob it from you.
There's a difference between caving in, living in a cave, & realizing when you've lost your composure... mine of which, was the latter. A public apology was difficult to courage, but I knew it was the right thing to do & swallowed my pride. I would take starvation any day over brown-nosing & my persistence for equality has oftentimes left me to the wolves. So if you check the time-stamps, you'll see I apologized before any of his following responses regarding my rant. Now if you'd like examples of a few stubborn board-feuds, for which I did not falter, because I'm certain that's right up your alley, go search the Gen Board where I did quite a bit of sticking to my guns with that click, b/c I still feel I was in the right. But the reason I stopped all participation over there was to get away from this shit.
unless you think all those that will inquire about a date are reading this???
Posted By: baileym365
I can't and won't sugar coat this, so all of you sensitive men I would suggest not to read it.
I have an auto response on my email that clearly states my screening protocol and most importantly my hours of operation. Yet I continuously have men asking for times or days that I don't offer, I will never respond back to you.
You are grown ass men who I know can read a short email!!! You're either being lazy or flat out rude and disrespectful both of which I don't tolerate, period.
Between school and training I don't have the time in a day to hold your hand through the process, nor should I because again you're grown ass men. Get it together and take 30 seconds to read my availability, I will say thank you to the few men out there who read my hours and also respect my busy civil life.
You might have a rigid schedule, but many who post their hours do not. In a service business the last thing you want to do is make yourself look like an angry mess to customers and prospects. Maybe men ask you about an after-hours meeting because they want to give you the opportunity to book. Maybe they'd prefer to let you say No rather than simply writing you off as unavailable due to a posting in an ad or a website.
To be clear - I have no dog in this hunt. I've never contacted you and certainly won't now. If you don't have time for giving someone the benefit of the doubt once in a while for the serious error of not memorizing your admittedly busy calendar or reading every word ofglyrige away a non-personal auto-response, maybe the guys don't have a problem. Maybe you just have too much on your calendar. You've now burned time on this post that you could have used studying or training or something that doesn't actively hurt your business.
Bailey's business will never be hurt by this post.
She's hot, fit, smart, she keeps it very real, she's charming and most of all she likes to fuck. Secure men like myself are turned on by strong independent women like Bailey.
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