Especially from an alias? (asked by alias user)


The Phoenix Board is a regional board. THis is not a regional nor community issue. My opinion is you should be posting this on the General Board. Then the alias wouldn't matter. Again, just an opinion of a PHX resident involved in the regional community.

The PHX board is also a kinder, gentler board meant to promote community discussion. Over on the GD board you, I imagine this post would be a top candidate for one of those "assclown alerts." But here you are 'safer.' Maybe that's why you are posting it here.

But that aside, let me ask you a question that's SERIOUS even though it may no sound that way:

Who are you anyway, the Church Lady?

It's presumpsuitous, if not arrogant, to place your own moral interpretation on a personal activity between two consenting adults.

Since you are obviously unaware of this, I will tell you: This site IS ABOUT personal activities between two consenting adults.

Please read those last 2 paragraphs over and over. Then, since your parents didn't teach you this, go ahead and read the next one:

Whatever personal activities take place between two consenting adults in none of your business. If you are curious as to such activities, you might ask about them or educate yourself about them. If then, you do not care for those activities, then don't do them, and leave persons that do alone.

I'll give you one piece of information to start you on that learning process. I have a friend who enjoys her sexuality. She was a virgin until 19, with no sexual abuse, so you need not speculate about her particular likes or dislikes. She happens to enjoy having her partner have a orgasm buy masturbating onto her face and breasts. She is completely into the act, becomes very vocal, and may whimper feverishly "Give me your cum, daddy! Give it to me! Cum, daddy! Please, daddy! Put it on my face, daddy! Cum on my titties!"

She enjoys it. She asks to do this. And frankly, its a whole lotta good clean fun doing it together! Not your cup of tea? Then go get a Starbucks Vanilla Frappacinno and suck away!

There is nothing wrong with you ASKING what is the appeal of this to either a man or a woman. If that was your intent, however, you would not be using an alias now, would you?

Instead, your intent is to show disdain, which is poorly veiled in a comment where you purport to have respect for women. Which you don't. Not for the ones here, anyway. If you did, you wouldn't say it here.

If a woman wants to do this, she will. If she doesn't she won't. A real man will ask first, and totally respect her boundaries. That is what TWO CONSENTING ADULTS MEANS. Yes?

My suggestion: save your rant for an anti-porn discussion in your church's men's group.

Now... Any ladies want to do a squirt show onto my face!?!?!?  Woo-hoo!


HH

I don't want to hijack the previous thread about "pounding," and the alias is because I simply don't want the exposure to being flamed or otherwise adversely labelled.  I will say that I am an occasional poster here with several dozen Phoenix-based reviews on TER.  So here's a thread on a new topic which that last thread induced me to raise.  Maybe it's been covered on the general discussion board, but quite frankly this is the only board that I regularly follow.  Let me also preface this by denying any inference which may be drawn that this is an attempt to be judgmental.  I am well aware of "different strokes for different folks," and that sex is probably the one aspect of life in which the most varied and seemingly unusual, uninhibited and even bizarre preferences get to see the light of day.  Two consenting adults, yada yada.  Got it.

That said, I would really like to understand why some hobbiests apparently love to get off by jacking themselves onto the provider's tits, ass, back, stomach, face, hair or into her open mouth?  (And I'm not talking about BBBJCIM.)

Maybe I'm unadventurous and old-fashioned, but to me there's nothing better than some great, friction-induced CIV (even when in the hated condom) or BBBJTC!  Why do guys ever, even once, forego that pleasure to instead jerk themselves off onto the provider's body?  I don't get it.  They can jerk themselves off on their own; what's the point?  To me it appears (and again, maybe I'm missing something) that the only possible reason to do so is if the person has some sadistic need to degrade the woman in this fashion and/or demonstrate some kind of superiority or master/slave thing.  Still apparently comes down to denigrating the woman . . . or again, am I missing something?

Porn scenes almost always end that way.  Years ago it was said that they did so to prove that the scene was real by showing that it let up to the guy actually cumming.  Duh.  I think we can tell whether the preceding sex was real, and therefore that it would reasonably end with his orgasm.  Do straight guys really get off on watching some other guy cum?  If I look at porn, I'm into the ongoing sex, and usually shut it off or move to another scene before having to view the obligatory splash all over the gal's face or wherever.  Ugh.  At least, in my opinion . . . ugh!

Of course, we know that this is not just something that is done in porn videos.  Just read the reviews . . . hence my writing this.

We know that many providers permit this kind of completion and some even suggest it's welcome in their advertising.  My guess on that one is that they don't really particularly enjoy it, but know that by doing so it expands their potential client pool to include these jerk-off finishers.  Providers, please feel free to chime in, and by all means use an alias if that will permit you to be more forthcoming in your replies.

Comments of both hobbiests and providers in earlier threads suggest that good rapport and good sessions are facilitated not only when the provider behaves as if she's happy to see you, but when the hobbiest is respectful and demonstrates that he sees the provider as a person, not a piece of meat.  I strongly subscribe to that philosophy, so am just seeking to understand others' motivations to behave in such a different fashion.  I simply don't get it, and in my opinion the exchange of benjamins does not excuse what solely appears to be disrespectful and offensive behavior.

So if you can, please explain what I'm missing . . . or confirm my own conclusions.  Thanks.

Ask 10 people that question and you will get 11 different answers

Cause they like it!   Degrading a woman is a turn on for some.  

There are zillions of different kinks and fetishes out there.

Everyone will yes have there own answers.  Really that's pretty tame for a fetish type activity you try and think up the most off the wall act involving two people and then search it and you will probably find videos and sites devoted to it.  I would think providers would prefer that to some other finishes such as CIM I mean much less risk and within a few mins after you have it wiped off and as soon as the guys leaves your going to shower anyway.. even in the condom you still take that breakage risk they talked about a few threads below at least with this they know its not inside them.  Could be wrong but seems logical to me...  can't say I am into it I would take BBJCIM over even into the raincoat over JO finish any day as well I have done the BBBJ then last min let her do the JO honors but still prefer the other two finishes.  Different strokes for different folks maybe watching that porn is what got them thinking about it sort of a fantasy they are in there own film?  Don't really know. Guess I never thought of it really degrading but then I don't really think about it either since its not my thing LOL  I don't know do you girls find it degrading?

When it comes time  to cross the finish line it depends on the mood of me the client and the session. I myself find it an extreme turn on and I'm all for it, whatever the mood is whether it be more sensual or feaky and I personally don't find it degrading to a woman.

I would just make sure the woman you're with is fine with it before you finish that way.

I don't find it degrading - it's all part of the whole experience and to each his own. I actually like watching a guy get himself off and then use my body in any area as a release - be it cim, cof, cob, my ass or wherever. Depends of the overall tone and mood of the session. Might not be the standard GFE but there sure is more to life than just that!

It's all good

Have fun and play safe!

It was very well thought out and you can tell she put  a lot of thought into this .....so here is my take  I do not find it degrading at all  but each to his own  ....ever since I was young  and starting exploring sex I found it a total turn on watching a man  touch himself while  I watched... that makes me hot  not quite sure why  just my kink......I do draw  the line  I am not into  getting it in my hair or face  but the  rest I love  most of the time this happens in the biz is when a guy  is having a hard time climaxing  with the dreaded condom  on so he removes it to finish  and I am happy to enjoy the show!

Thanks Victoria (and to the others who replied so far as well).  I also got a kick out of your reference to me as "she" -- I guess when I wrote that I have a few dozen reviews, it wasn't clear that it was I who wrote them!  Yeah, I'm a (male) hobbiest folks, not a provider!  Based on Victoria's reply, I guess at least one thing that I don't have to worry about is whether I'm "in touch with my feminine side" !

Looking forward to reading more reply comments on this topic.  Interesting to see that so far no one is quite as turned off by this as I have been.

-- The Gotta-ask GUY

It's not Degrading
I just enjoy seeing it and feeling it hit my skin no matter where.
its a turn on for me to see a guy enjoying painting me.
I have always thought
I worked hard to earn it
I want to enjoy the rewards

.... superiority master/slave thing when it comes to sex isn't always a bad thing.... if the other half has no problem with being cummed on or squirted on then it's not degrading at all if both consent. Personally i'm afraid of semen it's not going to burn me or kill me  just watch my eyes, hair and nowhere near my lady parts & we're alright.  Semen is warm, gooey, and it kind of feels good lol maybe I have watched too much porn and it's normal to me....oh well. I am one that enjoys it.  No alias neccessary, I think you're missing that sex doesn't always have to be so philosophical and deep.  I like to sit on or cum on a man/woman's face and well quite frankly it's nothing to do with them it just feels good...to me.  Personality could be a part of it tho ...i'm kind of a switch.

How more judgmental can the statement

"strikes me as degrading to the person being decorated with someone's load"

be, Mr.... who????  

I've spent a good part of a professional career assessing people and what their motivations are and what they are capable of doing based on the way the speak, write, and communicate - particularly men.

So, when I see something that doesn't jive, IN MY OPINION, I say it. I've called out some out on the boards and posted why, not using an alias either. And, I have been called out as well.

I stand by what I said. Even more so now.

Your anger and ad hominem reply fits right into the profile I see.

With that said, I CALL BULLSHIT on you.

I think you are disingenuous and instead of disassembling your angry reply line-by-line, I invite you to PM me.

If you want to understand the thrill of COB or COF, as you boldy claim, ol' HalfHour will be happy to oblige.

But, put aside your arrogance first! Just as some of the ladies who replied find it hot, you'll learn that it's not just "HH's female friend" who LOVES this sort of thing. Be ready for a paradigm shift, because outside of religiously repressed groups, this is an EXTREMELY NORMAL activity and in no way relates to golden showers (except that your penis is used for both if you are the giver.)

I'll ask again, did you really post TO GAIN UNDERSTANDING? Your reply says otherwise. Now the choice is yours.

Don't worry! I won't out you or reprint anything you say, if that is what you actually fear.

By the way, If I'm wrong about you, I'll say so too. I don't think I am. So, without holding my breath...

I'll wait and see.

Have a nice day, too! really!


HH

P.S. This was not a flame, don't be so fragile.

I didn't think he was offending the ladies at all, Victoria.

He's using an alias so there has been no shame to him, nor harm done. Hell, until I replied, it could have been me! Crap! Maybe it's anabangbang! j/k

I'm not bothered by the post, and I'm glad so many ladies answered it. It's great reading!

Since an alias was used, I just stated what I thought about what was written (and how), both in the text and the subtext. — I could be right. I could be wrong. — But, I think even though it was carefully worded, the condemnation of the act in question was alive and well in mr. whodat's brain.

Besides, if he is a man, he should be able to weather through a strong verbal challenge, yes?

no train wrecks here

two for you!
HalfHour

so sorry I should of looked LOL  and I must say am very surprised it was a male poster maybe now you can loosen up and let it fly.......LOL

HH's reply diatribe explains just why I am using an alias.  Not that it requires a response, but (in order)
-- my posting here has nothing to do with it being "safer" than on the GD board, if that is even correct.  I really have and had no idea about that, as I don't look at the GD board.  As first stated, this is the only board which I follow, its posters are the ones whom I recognize and (some of) whose comments I value, and the subject is universal enough that I felt I'd get sufficient and real answers to the question right here among us locals.
-- I first established that I understand and have no problem with two consenting adults doing whatever they want.  I sure as hell don't need a misapplied lecture from HH on the subject, nor do I need his misinterpretation of the question as having anything to do with my (or anyone's) moral values.  And though this particular thread seemed one in which it is a good idea to use an alias particularly due to the likelihood of misplaced replies like his, why does HH post with that alias on almost every thread which appears on this board?!  "People in glass houses . . . "
-- Again, Cynical HH, my intent was exactly as you stated:  "There is nothing wrong with you ASKING what is the appeal of this."  That is just what I was doing, nothing more, nothing less.  I am using the alias exactly and solely because in my experience there are always a certain number of flamers around -- of which you've revealed yourself to be one -- who like to see their writing so much that they fire before aiming or even correctly identifying the target.
-- Suggesting I save my rant for a church's mens group is the best laugh I've had today.  Obviously (and thankfully, from my perspective) you know nothing about me, but that is about as far off the mark as you could possibly be.  Except for your even more ridiculous suggestion that I don't respect women.

It's true that I do not personally relate to the practice inquired about in this thread.  Others also commented that it's not their thing.  My purpose is solely to better understand what strikes me as degrading to the person being decorated with someone's load.  Golden showers, same thing (I guess maybe a bit more so.)  HH's female friend apparently likes it, so I guess he's helped me by providing an example of that.  I don't get it, but I certainly do NOT condemn it.  Once and for all, just trying to better understand it.

And to HH, as they say in those places where it doesn't really mean anything, "Have a nice day."

HH you know I love you but you need to lighten up on this poor guy  look at the reponses  we women  were not offended and the topic  matter was interesting I thought is was a woman LOL coming from a man made it all the more interesting ....now cum over and let it fly baby!

Guys have been doing it (jerking off) since they were 13 (some younger).  It's really that simple. The fact they share this activity with a provider who gives their permission is not surprising.

Just for the record, not cup of tea.

I'm not sure that cumming on the outside of a provider is all that degrading. Inside, outside, they consent to the act and are paid. What is degrading is sex without consent, in any form.

Huh...I didn't know that was a typical service offered to clients. To be perfectly honest I would much rather have it on my face or boobs than in my mouth.

I for one have had many providers in the "heat of the moment" ask me, (sometimes very strongly) to...cum on her tits, or to cum on her face. Or, yes, to cum in their mouth. Sometimes I jack off, or what I prefer, is for the provider to jack me off where they want it...

Thanks for the armchair psychology, HH.  Your "calling bullshit on me" despite my repeated assertion that this was nothing more than a discussion topic to hear what others might say, and thus learn from that, is hardly an incentive to engage in didactics with you privately.  Neither are your continuing uninformed descriptions of me as disingenuous, angry, arrogant, blah blah blah.  Apparently your proudly held credentials for accurately assessing others "based on the way the (sic) speak, write and communicate" are failing you.  So, don't hold your breath for that PM.  The reply postings of everyone else have been very illuminating and have been quite sufficient for me to "understand the thrill of COB or COF", as you describe it.  As for further engagement with you via PM, it's unnecessary and I've got other things to do.  Thanks for the offer, though.

I will just further say (can't resist) that from the beginning comment of your initial posting under this thread, I first inferred that your HH handle was also an alias.  However, though I'm not going to get further involved, I see that it is indeed possible to PM you.  Therefore, apparently HH is your regular TER handle . . . and though you comment on just about every thread which is posted here, as HH you do not have a single review to your credit.

At the risk of committing the same error which you have done in each of your posts here (i.e., spouting off about someone of whom you know nothing), does this not smack of those who like to "talk about it" while never "doing it"?  TER is first and foremost a provider review site.  Yes, I'm using an alias on this thread only, for reasons twice explained, but take my word (I know, you don't) that I have written several dozen published TER Phoenix reviews over many years.  Therefore HH, like good ol' Clara Peller in the Wendy's commercials of years ago, I must ask in your case . . . "Where's the beef?"!!

degraded by this.

I love watching a guy cum. I also love being in complete control of when he cums, but that's another story I love watching all the different ways guys jack off, helping them out on ocassion, seeing the final show.

I don't find it degrading at all, and sometimes I will even provde a target

Just keep it out of my eyes and my hair, particularly the eyes !!

Well since Half hour likes to ear fuck us with his/her post on this topic my guess is you're going to get a little in the hair ladies.........but that's better than the eye lol

I don't know whether it is a "typical" service, but do a search on TER and you'll find a lot of providers who do allow it, especially in big urban areas.

Ahh...I was mainly thinking of Phoenix providers.

What makes it such a turn on for those women who do like it? I have seen this before. The women who like it get this very lustful, desiring, almost animal like look on their faces when the see a man cum. There have been several ladies who say "That is so hot" or mention how turned on they are by seeing it. Yet none of them say why the like it so much. What makes it the extreme turn on for you?

I see so many ladies that say "Not in the eyes or the hair. Come on now that's not fair. We have no control over our aim when that moment hits. I mean really we can't even hit a 10" hole in the toilet and you want us to aim it so we don't hit your eyes and hair. All I can say is if we are that close I suggest you close your eyes and do the best you can to cover your hair, because I am making no promises about where it is going once it leaves. All you can ask us to aim better and we will give it our best shot. (Pun Intended).

As an older guy, I have prefered finishing with giving a woman a facial, or finishing on her breats. I agree that finishing CIV is the greatest feeling, but only BB. Which is something I would never do with a provider even if she offered. I completely support the use of condoms, but as most men do, I really hate them. As I have gotten older, I am diabetic with the usual problems associated with that, so I don't even look for FS anymore. And if the provider can finish me herself that is great, but most times after many minutes of effort on the providers part, I have to finish myself. So I ask if I may finish on a certain area of her. I prefer the face, but will accept almost anywhere. Its not degradation on my part, if anything I appreciate the provider even more. And I find it very arousing to finish with COF. A provider will get a guaranteed return appt from me with that. But each to their own. If a provider said no, I can respect that, and if I had a good time I would definetly come back. But always looking for more providers that offer that.

As far as the attacks on here, I really wish it wouldn't happen on the board. Take it to a PM or something. We need to keep things civil Thanks again for everyone who participates on this board and keeps it going!

That I am sooooo turned on by "big words" and men who use them correctly!
Educated men are so hot! (no, not joking)

Darn, I guess that means next time I will get out my thesaurus and start using longer words!!!!