any thoughts?

Excellant choice.  I'll go out on a limb here and predict .....Oh, NEVERMIND!!  LOL

...VPILF !

hehehehe, my thoughts exactly

Regardless of how it goes, it is a foregone conclusion we will have a history making presidency.  America will now elect either its first African American President, or its first female Vice President.
I'm pretty excited about being alive for this moment in history, no matter who wins.

I agree.


Thank you
2008=27

Whatever hesitancy I had about who to vote for is now resolved.  "Eight is enough".

Bet Hilary is pissed, LOL, We're gonna have a women  president after all. I mean Vice president

This will sink McCain.

Stupid political stunt.

1 Mccain says hes for green energy voted against every bill that would promote it (other than corn based ethanol)
2 Palin's total political experience invloved being Mayor of a town of 7,000 and the Governor of Alaska which has a smaller population than Arizona.
3 Mccain has no concept of Net Neutrality
4 Palin is under investigation in her Home state for possible abuse of Office (seems she has decided its her lifes goal to make her sisters exhusband life hell after he got a little on the side ((this should make some of you very worried))
5 Mccain thinks 5 million a year and up is middle class. if thats the case im in abject poverty never mind i can drop 500 a week on ass and still put cash in my 401k every week
6 Palin had to ask what the duties of the Vice President are...
7 McCain ran AGAINST the bush tax cuts in 2000....now he loves them and President Bushs little war.

Obama and Biden arent perfect (Biden is in the pocket of the riaa) Obama has no real positions of his own.

Ill still vote for them over a 77 year old and some chick who must have failed junior high school civics (hell even i know the duties of the vice president)

oh and for those who value the right to choose. MCCain votes prolife every single chance he can.

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They'll be calling them "the old one and the no one".  McCain loses both in having set himself up by blowing (no, not that kind; forgot where I'm writing) his back-up selection when he had the chance to mitigate the age issue, and in demonstrating awful judgment by doing so.  He's cold-cocked (again:  no, not that) himself.  Stick a fork in him; he's done.  It's like something taken from a wacky movie script (wasn't there at least one such semi-comedy years ago about a completely unprepared VP having to step in?)  Well, McCain and Hillary will at least have plenty to chat about in the Senate cafeteria.

The announcement of the running-mate makes headlines, but has little impact on the result of the presidential election.  But this time it could be different.

It is unlikely that either candidate will survive to serve 2 full terms as president.  At 72, statically, I expect, but by no means wish, Sen. McCain will become incapacitated, or die in office.  Events of the past week show that Sen. Obama, if elected, will likely join Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and Kennedy.  Maybe a look to who is waiting in the wings is necessary.

Great list, Moebius8! I agree with you wholeheartedly. One little correction. McCain does not think 5 million and up are middle class, he thinks 5 million dollars a year is where rich starts. So under 5 million dollars is middle class.

i once read your not rich until you can cover all your expenses off the interest from the interest from the principle

or i suppose you could bang the rich chick you met at a fundraiser for five years before dumping your wife to marry her.

any of you ladies wanna fund my political aspirations? im kind of messy but i do give a good back rub haha

This is great - talk about desperate! Went for the anti-Roe v. Wade, anti-gay "Hail Mary" just to throw his "experience" bona fides out the window?

Did he not vet her? Under federal probe? (abuse of power scandal) Unwed, pregnant 17-year-old daughter- while she is big time promoter of "abstinence only" programs in high-school? (the conservative bible thumpers will lover that!) there goes your family values - she wants to be VP and she can't control her own kids? even Bill and Hillary did better on that count.

so - she's THE MOST qualified person in the entire country to be a hearbeat away from the presidency?? No Tom Ridge, Colin Powell?? even Condi Rice is a million times more qualified!

great judgement for a 72-year-old who's had cancer 4 times.

I just watch the crazies in the street and listen to who the people that want to kill us endorse and I vote the oppisite.........simple!

Hypocrites galore! Since when did commie liberals care about teen pregnancy?

An Obama supporter is actually questioning Palin's qualifications and experience!!!! Now that is funny! She has been a Mayor and a Governor. Obama has done what? Well, that’s not fair! Obama has done stuff. For example, he did cocaine. He made a real estate deal with a felon. He supported a racist, anti-American church. He served on a Board with an unrepentant terrorist whose group is responsible for killing cops.He served 143 days in the Senate before running for President. And he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! See he’s done lots of stuff!

I didn't think you liberal dimocrats cared about teen pregnancy or controlling kids....if it feels good do it right? Give them condoms because they won't listen if we tell them not to screw, but then you wonder why they don't use the condoms after you told them to. Will you ever somehow get a clue?

Why not debate on the issues instead of attacking her personally? Oh, I know...because you can't! If she were a liberal woman though you and NOW would all be in her corner rooting for her all the way. Democrats don't care about the success and equality of women unless they believe as they do. It is about helping the cause of socialism and identity politics, not about advancing the cause for women.



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me i love single mothers, they give the best lap dances (i kid i kid let me live)

you come off as a bitter old neocon who is upset that his property values tanked under a Republican administration. im sorry this happened so i feel i must make amends

the next three sessions i have i'll think of you after i blow the load fantastic. (well ok ill think "man that was awesome im glad im not a bitter mean old neocon")
this dNA'S for you bitter old mean neocon.

here is some of the little things your party has done for our great nation. ill not even bother mentioning the huge elephant in the room.

That the party of small government has grown it too the point i cant take a laptop across the border without some tsa snoop wanting to clone the hd.

that in eight years his party has allowed the infrastructure of our great nation to decay to the point driving across a bridge is a crapshoot.

the Republican party took a budget surplus and not only destroyed it. they drove our great nation into a state so like recession its academic's who argue the definition.


I sincerly hope i get to think of you bitter, old,mean, neocon when BO makes his acceptance speech ending eight years of pure fucking misery for our nation.

the current administration inherited a recession and war that the prior administration was to chicken shit to fight. I think that part of the reason..... or should I say most of the reason for the  surplus was due to the Republican run house whose favorability rating was............well to spare your feelings we'll just say much better than the current dems!!! LOL!

Sorry to inform you the infrastructure deteriation problem has existed for decades, I can remember seeing a segment on 60 minutes at least 25 yeras ago.  

By definition of "resession", we aren't there yet. Some when they find the time between counting "hanging chads" will argue that we are in a resession.

What borders are you crossing? You must have been in China.

Nothing personal moebius, just the facts.

Have a good day.

McCain 2000 was a maverick who I had many differences with but respected the fact that he had a set of balls.
McCain 2008 is a  sell out who will pander to the right while he tries to court the left.
He was ready to pick Lieberman who ultimitely was the instrumntal in the "shrub" getting in there to begin with.
The man will do or say anything to get elected.
He picked a running mate that couldn't keep her personal life out of a small town in Alaska, gave birth to  disabled child and got pregnant selfishly. Now her 17yr old daughter will raise two children.
She is a disgrace to humanity who is part of the Bush/Cheney machine that is ultimitely controlling the whole thing.
Anyone that votes for them on this particular board should look at sherrif Joes website to be reminded how lives are destroyed by self-rightous frauds. How not to mention the 1000's of young men and woman that have died and will continue to die as the old war monger looks for the next battle to fight. Remember they are all still trying to save Bush 1's disgraceful handeling of the Persian Gulf.
God help America if this election is even close.
If it is it will be because as a country we are still racists.
Also, shame on the Democrats for not letting the most powerful speaker for the impovershed not speak at the convention because he got a little pussy

Country is full of racists if you don't vote for a man that's father was black and mother was white!!!!!!!! WTF

Based on that logic  Obama better win he has a full house!!

If that is the only reason a guy that sat in front of a racsist preacher for 20 years and has already been cornered in countless lies and misspeaking that put Dan Quayle to a heightened level in the past 6 months should be elected than we're all fucked!!!!

Trust me I'm no McGoo fan, however he makes me feel alot more comfortable than a guy who is the equivalent to a "Wizard of Oz"

Bitter, old, and mean! You are kidding right? That is why I am not a liberal, my thought process evolved past the age of nine! You sound like a third grader in an argument. I am none of those things, and I am definitely not a neo-con. lol

If you don't like big government, why are you a liberal? Are you familiar with the term "useful idiot"? That is what the communists used to call American liberals. They were and are commie sympathizers and they don't even understand that for them to get what they want they will have to give up their freedom. Oh well, not much we can do, some people are not smart enough to be able to act in their own rational best interests or those of the USA.

Why do you think there was a budget surplus? because of the Republican Party. If Dumocrats had their way we would have surrendered to the terrorists and be speaking in Arabic right now. Peace at all costs right, even at the expense of our freedom...no thanks. I will take McCain over B. Hussein Obama any day. And I am no fan of McCain.

the facts as you see them. i interpet events differently. the fact remains 1 trillion dollars was poured by the repubs down a rat hole that still looks like something out of the period between persias fall and the rise of the ottoman empire.
i would prefer the party in power had kept the cash here and fixed a few bridges, built a few schools, funded a few hospitals you know the sorts of things normal goverments do.

normal goverments dont go to war because some penny ante dictator insulted their dad when he was busy failing at being president too.

not china thailand had a good time thanks for asking
they decided to just let me go by when they saw the os was linux

you still sound bitter old and mean. commies went out in the 90s. the russians are as democratic as the sandinastas your god
Ronnie propped up. you may not like who they elect i certainly dont but it was no more crooked than election in Chicago.

from your sentence structure and semantics i figure your over 50 probably close to 60 and dude the ladies are lying to you thats old.

i look at what mcflipflop offers and i say to myself, self do you want to watch this crazy old dude give us four more years of insanity before cancer or sheer stress whacks him?. i watch him pick a right wing nutjob (dress or no dress this lady is a right wing nutjob) to run after he kicks the bucket or heads off to an alzheimers hotel and i gotta say nay to that too.

i like kids being taught sex ed and given the right to read what ever they can talk the librarian into letting them get their grubby little hands on.

all in all i am voting my vested interests. my interests being vested in not having the government be half as snoopy as it is now.
i dont see the redubs propounding on net neutrality. BO does however...

I've been telling you for years to go to Thialand. Did you visit Phuchet Island?

I am 32 years old.....commies did not go out in the 90's because people like you still think that socialism works.

I bet you are under 30....if you are not and you paid for secondary education, I would demand a refund.

By the way, you did not address a single fact that I mentioned about Osama...er I mean Obama. I know why you didn't but it would be interesting to hear your excuse.

yes it was awesome though it was my second trip.
i got to see sukhumvit and the soapys then went to chang mai to see the beaches. i realized i was spending twice as much for girls that had twice the attitude and went back to bangkok.

i found this neat little bar on the dark side of town called noi's and hung out there for the rest of my time. the aussies are some serious party boys they took care of me and kept me half drunk and totally laid the entire time i was there

its on the return that customs starts getting curious about your electronics. luckily even though i had hundreds of pictures none were of the naked ladies (the bars are strictly enforcing the no pictures rules fyi).
i didnt bother doing long times since i wasnt sure about my hotel. i couldnt get a room at the Orchid this time sadly.
short time was running about 1500 baht most places not including tip.

i mostly went since china airlines had a sale and i dont know the next time we are gonna see under 3k for round trip any time soon.

what facts? i just saw the usual neo con spewings.

i went to a nice state college in the midwest. it allowed me to learn to think for myself and form opinions logically, rather than simply respewing Bill Oreillys latest talking points.

the party of less government has driven us to the knifes edge of economic failure while increasing both the powers of the president and decreasing personal freedoms more than at any time in our history.

The Republican party, the party of some of our greatest heros and statesmen has made it self the bastion of those more interested in running my life then in letting me live it.

i will leave you with this last jab.....
Even during the period of Martial law declared by Lincoln during the Civil war habeas corpus was observed.

Regardless of my views everything I said was either my opinion or a verifiable fact as opposed to a blatant lie but isn't that what you guys do.
Swiftboat, Ohio 2004,Fla 2000---God help us if Palin/McCain are elected.
I will pray for you. Not you Moebius the foll under an alias