to have more than one ? What makes that designation happen? Is it great sex with intimacy and an intellectual connection . How much is based on physical characteristics or are the other dynamics more important. Is it a sudden switch from provider to ATF or does it take many visits to fall into that category? Do you search it out or just let the stars align? Can you tell me what ATF actually means for you? Does the 'L' word enter into the ATF equation? I know I put a lot of questions in this post, just trying to get a different take on this designation.J

It does involve great sex, but that is easy to get so there is more. Intellectual connection  has to be there.  "Intimacy" what the hell is that really? Maybe just another word for honesty during the interaction. The feeling that she is truly happy to spend time with you.  For the few ATF's I have had there is no common physical look. In fact they were all quite different.
Did not know at first but one thing is that they were each so special I made the rare repeat visit. The scary L thing can happen, but you can have an ATF without. I only have had one at time. Each one has been great but sucks when it is over.
I promise myself never again....well until the next time!
PS not sure those few even read this board anymore, if you do THANKS!  I still have Friday and Sunday afternoons open.

but I don't have many answers.  In my 2 years of play I had several sessions that involved fireworks.  A few had me longing for seconds, thirds and fourths - usually I think because they were hot in my book and I enjoyed their company(YMMV).  Alas most have moved on and I'm hoping to get a couple of ATFs again soon.  Seems much easier than constantly hunting.

I only had one where I actually felt hurt when she left.  Had seen her 3 times and got smitten.  I repaired my shields and am ready for battle.

Definition of ATF: a very physically comely woman that is either actually into me-- or gives a superior impression that she is into me-- to the extent that the sex is beyond satisfying for me, and that she is actually enjoying the sex-- and the time-- with me as well as I am enjoying it with her.  It also includes her satisfying my desires and requests as well as me satisfying hers.  If I have the sincere feeling that I am satisfying hers it proves that we have a comfortable enough connection that she can tell me what she genuinely likes- and we can both share in that.  Maybe goofy, but that's what it is for me.   It IS about more than the release....

Hard to define/describe but you know when you've found one.

For me it occurs over time and through multiple involvements. You may have a hint that there is something unique about the lady in a first encounter but repeated meetings allows the magic and relationship to mature and become complete.

No one particular characteristic fills the bill for me and the combination of attributes that the lady possesses may vary from ATF to ATF.

Can you have more than one at a time? - I didn't think so until recently, but, yes, it is possible in my experience. Problem here is having a big enough wallet and the time in one's schedule to keep up with them all. This is not a 'cheap' hobby by any stretch of the imagination and real life work pursuits must come first (I have to remind myself of that from time to time).

The "L" word? - well at my age (and considering the ages of most of the ladies I meet which are ALWAYS significantly lower than mine) that's not a functional issue to deal with. I don't think too many of the ladies are interested in 'falling' for Daddy or Grandpa. While I have developed some very special friednships and feelings for a number of the girls over time, I hope that I can stay centered and distinguish reality from fantasy, although I must admit, that can be a bit of a challange at times. Its hard, if not impossible imho, to be repeatedly intimate with a woman whose company you enjoy, and not develop some unique or special feelings towards her.

It is like the 'real' world ... something just clicks and feels SO right beyond the play.  Maybe it is the fantasy that some women innately know how to read and fulfill ... THEY are the ladies to whom we return.

And I am fortunate to say that I have two....

These two wonderful ladies are the only two that I have seen multiple times, and the more I see them, the more the ATF category is developed.

And when an opportunity to see either one is possible, the chance to see someone new goes unfulfilled.

In both cases I knew immediately I wanted to see her again....

And I'm hoping to have them both visit my city this summer for my ultimate doubles experience....

RocketMan36

I think "ATF" means something different to each of us, something akin to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."  I also think that the phrase "ALL TIME favorite" implies that there is only one.  I could go along with maybe a couple of Co-ATF's, but not more. I do believe that there is more than one component in a lady becoming our ATF, which leads to establishing something that we feel is a "special connection."  Kinda like X & Y were two of my favorite wives because....  I don't believe that you search it out, it just happens.

As far as the "L" word goes, run, don't walk to the nearest nuclear fallout shelter!!  As hobbiests, I think that whatever feelings may arise during our encounter, need to remain in the confines of the fabulous hour or two or three, etc. that we just had with our ATF.  We always need to remember that the ladies do this for the money, and not to "fall in love" with us.  Within that context, we can have whatever feelings we want during our time together, but those feelings need to be left behind when she walks out our front door.

Sorry to run on.

The connection isn't at waist level only, it plays with your mind and tugs at your heart strings. Many of us put on a mask at the door when we play as do many providers. It's when you can meld into each other as two caring people that the ATF blossoms. Then it's pure pleasure going both ways without limits, again the pleasure isn't only at waist level