The post by Ava Evans, listing all of her services (and paricularly her "no tongues" rule), got me thinking (or speculating) about what it might be that keeps guys from calling a particular provider.  In other words, do you have a Cold Button, and if that one thing is present (or absent), you simply won't even consider the provider?  

Is it the kissing?  Fingers?  BBBJ?  Greek?  Bi?  

Gentlemen, start your abbreviation engines!

(with tongue)

No kissing, no call.

(of course, I don't call anyone anymore - just lurking)

-- Modified on 5/30/2006 5:30:20 PM

It ain't a girlfriend experience without tongue kissing. I'm not a ram it down your throat kind of guy, nor do I enjoy that in return (well, at least not in the first minute), but a mixture of LFK and DFK is absolutely required as far as I'm concerned. There are many fine women in the Phoenix area who provide that kind of sensual, passionate experience, and I LOVE it. Just thinking about it is making me tingle. See how easy I am?

No problems dealing with lfk,no msog or cbj but if the kitty is off limits so am I....

turning away from an advance of a lfk just changes the tone for me as i like to kiss..i like to explore with my tounge so daty is important also..

The kissing completes the experience for me.

NiceGuy

everywhere ive been
GFE encompassed
LFK
DFK
bbbj
DATY.

Personally, I think a lot of the guys are missing out on some fantastic experiences by requiring the long list of abbreviations.  While some of the women may not mind DFK, LFK, BBBJ, DATY etc, there are other women who give great sessions but are not comfortable with the full list of activities.  Believe me, you can have a sensous and intimate experience without any of the above.

If Providers learn nothing else from this thread, I hope they'll see how many of us really do appreciate the girls who provide the complete GFE.  Certainly, it's their body, and they may do as they please with it, but those who choose to allow DFK make it a much better experience for me.  I never call a girl who I don't think will allow it.  It's the best part for me.  And to those of you with whom I've had that pleasure, I thank you sincerely.

I can't see how there could even be a happy ending if all were not included, at least for me anyway. other wise I would just have to use the vibrator...(wink w/a big grin)

vs YMMV. I know lots of gals that are initially reluctant with regard to various "menu" items...but warm up quickly when treated with both passion and compassion. It's the hard fast this is the way it is types that lose appeal for me....

I dont have a problem working to build a "relationship"....sometimes it takes a couple (or more) trips to build something worthwhile.

To me its not the "alpabet soup" per se, its the mindset that goes with the restrictions that kills the deal...

I could never figure out why some women have an aversion to DFK, while still allowing BBBJ, DATY, and facials or breastials (is there such a word? lol). 'Tis a puzzlement.

What if a provider doesnt like dfk or french kissing? even in her personal life. Would you want her to fake it? Couldnt you tell she wasnt into it? I would think that would be a turn off. if she doesnt like to dfk, does that make her a bad provider? I wouldnt think so.
Your thought please!!!!!!!!!!!

what if a provider does much more to make up for it?

A kiss is still a kiss
A sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by....

A good kiss is one with passion and fire no matter what letters are used

Ava, you are a beautiful woman and I'm sure a pleasure to be with. You ask what if a provider doesn't like to DFK? My thought is this: When you are with a client, you aren't in a personal relationship,  you are in a business arrangement, and you are providing a service. If the client likes DFK, the provider who acquiesces will please the client, get a favorable review, and get repeat business. You certainly have the right to limit your services and I applaud you for being up front about it. Some aren't. But then you must accept the fact that you aren't going to have clients see you who crave DFK as part of the GFE.

I read somewhere that only 12.5% of long term relationships still Make-out how sad, kissing reminds  me of how much fun high school and college dates were way back when....being a provider has brought that excitement of the first kiss back into my life.

I just don't want to be fake. I want to be real as much as I can during the session. Hobbiest dont want a fake provider, does he? Its something for me to think about. I just want both parties to have fun and enjoy themselves. I think that makes the exerience awhole lot better.

I guess I make up for this in other areas.
ava evans

Reo you have a "Cold Button"?

Some of these are about intimacy (i.e., having some close doors) and some of these are about safety.

My primary directive is to play safe.  I enjoy a provider who will do just about anything (had first greek experience with a provider who loves it a few months ago) ... COVERED.  If a provider does BBBJ, then I will not do DFK or BBBJ for health reasons; if a provider does only CBJ, then I will do DFK if she permits.

Without the sensual kiss, how can there be passion? Without passion, how can one experience the true GFE? IMO, you can't.

Just a piece of advice-the client is paying for what he likes-whether you like it or not doesn't really matter-yes you should fake it.Let's face it if providers O'd or enjoyed things as much as we think you do there would be no need for providers.Now you have the right not to do things you don't want to and as long as you state it upfront --cool--but don't call yourself GFE if you ain't. A GFE is whatever the client see's as that experience and that usually involves some kissing
I personally don't kiss a provider unless the moment is there and if it wasn't andI didn't know  it was good service- I know you have been getting a hard time on CL and I am trying to be helpful.Feel free to pm me if you need some more assistance

Just a piece of advice-the client is paying for what he likes-whether you like it or not doesn't really matter-yes you should fake it.Let's face it if providers O'd or enjoyed things as much as we think you do there would be no need for providers.Now you have the right not to do things you don't want to and as long as you state it upfront --cool--but don't call yourself GFE if you ain't. A GFE is whatever the client see's as that experience and that usually involves some kissing
I personally don't kiss a provider unless the moment is there and if it wasn't andI didn't know  it was good service- I know you have been getting a hard time on CL and I am trying to be helpful.Feel free to pm me if you need some more assistance

I love to kiss and I think it is definately a bad thing to have ten zillion ~rules~. My big thing ("rule") is a condom if penetration takes place... I love all the rest. So do my guys!!
~~~~~smile~~~~~
Maggie

Fletch, I agree with you completely.  There's nothing like licking the kitty and hearing it purr!!