I believe are the two used the most in AZ (I use both. Ladies feel free to chime in if there are others).  Verification methods vary out here, lady to lady.  There are some who are less stringent than others.  Definitely do not go with anyone who asks you for no information.  I hope this is helpful!

Just remember that while the weather out here will be cooling down, the atmosphere is severely unsettled.  Best of luck to you!

XoXo
C

-- Modified on 9/4/2014 5:16:16 AM

Joining P411 isn't going to hurt you.

Consider finding women you'd like to meet and see what their requirements are and then decide what you can do to enhance your chances of meeting them.

Since there have been frequent well publicized  sweeps of escorts and people they meet, along with anyone who might be with or waiting for the escort, be prepared for more than usual screening in the Phoenix area.

You will find many more women in the Phoenix area.

My last to visits have been with women in the Phoenix area while i live in Tucson.

If you have never heard of a suicide lane you have to be especially vigilant in the Phoenix area, as I believe they still use them—NEVER drive in the suicide lane because people visiting the Phoenix area will not have a clue about them and will turn into it believing it is a lane for making turns.

People in Phoenix rarely indicated the Ave, Street or road designation; the same for East or West assuming you are familiar with all of the streets there. As a result if you use a GPS and punch in 29th you will discover multiple 29ths and have to know if you want 29th Rd, Ave, of ST. My GPS is off by 20-40 feet some times in Phoenix with the result that when it says to turn, I'm past where the turn was.

While in Phoenix check out "Fast Eddy's" for great breakfast meals and Jerry's for food that they prepare vrs frozen stuff many place serve.

Best bkfst in Tucson is south of Tucson at TTT truck stop. Keep an eye peeled for the Gem show in Tucson, impossible to get a hotel room, restaurants over loaded as well as streets near The Show.

Here in Tucson it's cheaper to run a road through a wash than it is to do the safe thing, build a bridge over it. when it rains, and the rain can be miles away the wash floods and the road is closed, forcing that traffic onto other roads--traffic jams!! To make it worse, you'll drive down a road to where the wash is to find out if it is closed rather than discovering it is closed where you can take alternative roads.

In this area you will discover unmaintained county roads, dirt roads you will want to avoid; none of the mapping services of GPS units alert you that the road may only be usable with 4 wheel drive.

The P site is listed on the FBI website for sex trafficking and Gina no longer takes seriously suspicious reports with gals phones taken over by LE.

The D site while more active in Chicago area than Phx at least I have not heard Phx LE or FBI using for stings like they do the P site.

Now don't make any rash decisions, cards and dice are no substitute for time spent with a smokin hot provider.  LE may be active, but they are merely active morons.  You simply need to be careful and never waver from the well established best practices.  If it sounds too good to be true then it is.  Stay the hell away from the young ones.  Don't discuss explicit details in writing or otherwise. If you can avoid incall then do so. STICK WITH WELL REVIEWED PROVIDERS.  Let the big head do the decision making.  Most importantly never, ever deviate from the aforementioned, for any reason, regardless how hot you think she is!

There are so many excellent women in our area for you to spend time with, don't let the oppressive LE environment cause you to raise the white flag.

I actually thought about asking you about this Dave when it happened...

Shortly after verifying with the P site I received a Date request from a gentleman who at first asked me the usual (are you available this time this day, requesting rates) nothing too out of the ordinary other than rate info was clearly displayed in my profile.   
I did my due diligence before responding.  I check out his profile & saw he was a 2+ yr member with 26 OKs.  When I delve in a bit further to look at the OKs I noticed 9 are now inactive & of those 8 were from AZ.  I thought this was odd, but again with being new to the site I wasn't sure if that was normal.

So I responded to him with all pertinent information & was completely taken aback by the response I received:
"Hi Wednesday afternoon around 2:00 would be great. Would you include multiple hand jobs in the $XXX hour? I cum very fast. Thank you! What area is the incall so I can plan my schedule?"

If that isn't 100% a bait question, I don't know what is!!
I of course at that point knew immediately that I would not be seeing this gentleman.  But I courteously replied.

I then told the gentleman that I didn't understand his last message because of course rates are for time & companionship only.  Also threw in there that I would need an additional reference of someone who is well reviewed & has recent reviews/activity.  
Of course I received no response to my request.  
Feeling somewhat bad I contacted him about a week later to explain my reasons for asking for additional verification.  
Of course I received no response to my message.

Too many red flags.  
A 2yr+ , AZ hobbyist, especially one with that many OKs should know better, I was extremely confused as to why he thought it was okay to ask me such a question!  

You mentioned LE infiltration of the P site & I thought I'd share what could have possibly been a VERY bad situation.

XoXo
C

-- Modified on 9/4/2014 8:53:28 PM

Prove your accusation on P411 then I call BS. I have been a member for years with NO problems with request with providers in many cities nationwide.

I was not accusing anyone of anything, just sharing an experience.  Also, who am I supposed to send the proof to since you are using an alias????

Just realized you may not have been responding to me...  
But just in case you were:
SERIOUSLY??
A detailed explicit request of a provider tying a SPECIFIC dollar amount to a SPECIFIC sexual service???
From an obviously seasoned hobbyist based in AZ & should know better???
It doesn't matter if he was just comfortable in making his request because it was "P411" or LE, that is a complete NO NO in AZ.
I don't care what you get away with in other cities.

Let me be clear:
I AM IN NO WAY ACCUSING THIS GENTLEMEN OF BEING LE.  I AM ONLY SAYING THAT IF HE HAD INDEED BEEN LE IT COULD HAVE ENDED BADLY FOR ME.

XoXo
C

-- Modified on 9/4/2014 11:04:06 PM

...I know some have voiced concerns that this board hasn't been lively enough lately so this should help. Critical thinkers know that DAVEPHX is a joke, is mainly out to harm the local Hobby scene with his fear mongering and is only interested in promoted his perceived self importance.

Hey Dave! Thanks for all your hard work in ruining Providers' lives and fostering an atmosphere of distrust of services that are helpful in keeping us all safe! After all of your hard work, are things getting better for the Hobby community?.....or worse!  

...be free to express his requests for specific services and attire. It would seem to me that this client felt that since he was already verified thru the safest and most respected verification site in North America that he was free to openly express his wishes to you in a confidential manner. Personally, I wouldn't get very specific in my requests with my first contact with a Provider but it's perfectly understandable that this gentleman felt it was OK to do so.  

Inactive Provider accounts shoudn't necessarily be a red flag. We all know that those Providers were thoroughly vetted by P411 in the past and the understanding that they have left the business or have chose to deactivate their profiles shouldn't raise too many concerns. P411 runs an extremely tight ship.

I wasn't trying to cause problems.  Thank you for giving me another perspective on the situation.  Honestly that is why I reached out to the gentleman after the situation.  To give him my perspective.  I was hoping by giving him my explanation it would open up  our communication & he would explain his thought process.  Unfortunately he didn't but that is his prerogative.  Thanks again!

XoXo
Caramel

You should have responded back, "Me love you long time"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwIEUflY6YI

I appreciate Dave's legal articles and I think he is doing a good job and also he is THE EXPERT on Canada.

Well, as Gina notes no hobbyists were ever targeted on the P411 infiltrations, which is a good thing.  Although it shoes that P411 is not impenetrable and no substitute for security protocols everyone should be following anyway such as the pat down and checking for surveillance prior to the appointment, etc.

Post was not directed to you, and you have every right not to meet with anyone you are not comfortable with. My comment was directed to OP who was making an accusation without any evidence.

Serious. What makes you think he is an expert? You are as much of a FIDIOT as he is; especially with your recent post about agencies.

well......that's an easy way to make sure you are screwed out of your $$$. i think your first instinct to get screwed will be much more memorable and enjoyable.

since i hale from a small town, I always look for women who live here, not passin through, here for a couple nights and then vanish.

Deprived

Now THAT is funny!!!  

The only thing DavePhx is an expert at, is taking news reports and turning them into "the sky is falling!!" gossip fodder, so he can scare the new and gullible ladies into running to him for safety and comfort. Makes him feel important.  

Personally, I find it pitiful and disgusting.... particularly since he lynches anyone who won't play his stupid paranoia game with him.  

Always,
Gin