Phoenix

No question. It does happen to the ladies
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The girls have guys who waste their time (constant emails, trying to get something for nothing, book and do not show maybe for the fantasy, say they are players and are not, the list is endless....I am sure). Guys reviews hurt a girl, help a girl, do nothing for a girl. blah, blah, blah... Guys push girls to do things they are uncomfortable with to get business. Girls get jaded. Guys get jaded. Stuff happens. and...

Flakes are flakes - BUT

If someone books an appointment in ANY OTHER BUSINESS, and does not show, or converses a bit too much, I seriously doubt you will EVER see the business picking on the potential Client or base of clients in a public forum where other clients might read it. However, there are YELP, and other sites where a consumer can see how flakey a business is.... If we could post NCNS reviews....

Why? It just AIN'T good for the "feeling" created. I mean, I do not want to go to a business who thinks so little of their clients that they would slam a general population in public. And sites like this that drive revenue from both ladies and gents do not want to piss off their clients with NCNS reviews. Makes good business sense. So how do guys know?

Old saying "those with the money make the rules".

This phenom started as ladies got cocky and thought it was ok to speak their mind about clients behind the veil of the internet. Guess what. It's not cool. And you don't find it in a lot of other cities. Hits are hits in any internet business (views). Advertising good, bad, or ugly driving hits is good. Phoenix is a quagmire.

No offense Bailey - not directed at you. An observation of the state of affairs here I would personally like to see changed. Create the fantasy a bit more. Gentle. Sweet. Kind. Lady like. I still dig you Bailey. You are cool and crazy. Sexy TBD as I have not seen you. I do think about rubbing honey all over your six pack abs, but I digress...

Yea, there are guys who dig a good a$$ whipping. And will see a girl for the novelty. And who they themselves are a bit cocky and like a cocky broad (you ladies know who you are, don't you. DON'T YOU! lol). But my guess is that is a small set of the population.

Pleasure and pain. We make our choice.

Peace




Is anyone else as fed up with flakes as I am?  After doing research, selecting someone with many great reviews...having gone thru their screening process. And having exchanged many emails & texts(up until 3hours of appointment). Then 20 minutes before appointment...text for directions, and never hearing back! Left 2 voicemails..couple of texts. I am venting, but this kinda shit is very unprofessional...

The same replies will be heard
- out her
- move on
- she had a personal issue don't you know
- ask her to make it up to you

The thing is yes, it is a problem. It slowly infects the hobby because folks think it is ok. It is not. It makes other guys hesitate because of the drama. It hurts you because you will have a bad taste in your mouth for a while. My hobbling slows down with each bad experience. I screen more and then second guess. Didn't used to because it was a bit more reliable out there. Pre photo shop, handlers, bad reviews, shills, and flakes. And in Phoenix, pre bust and over-manipulation.

Ladies in a late position should either recommend someone, Or give you time to reschedule. But more importantly realize they should help you because it is good for the other ladies. And their business.

What ladies do not want to hear is guys double booking. And ladies complain about slow business. If 1 lady causes a bad experience it probably affects 10. I see it more in Phoenix than other towns.

I feel for you. I bat about 50 percent on good experiences to bad in Phoenix ( I am lumping in bad reviews, bad photos, lateness, bad service).. That's crazy considering the resources I have research wise. And when I do find one I hold on until she flakes. Or gets an ego bigger than mine. Or thinks it is ok to take advantage of my generosity.

We are asked to be gentleman, yet get treated like meat :)

Be part of the solution though and let folks know backchannel who it is. Silent reviews hurt. As you have been.

Peace and let market forces reign. I would rather have 100 great ladies than 1000 where 50 percent were hit or miss. My time is valuable.  And I don't want to hear "research" cuz I will blow a gasket. I do.

Or, as noted above, take the "stuff happens" approach.



Posted By: spyguy007
Is anyone else as fed up with flakes as I am?  After doing research, selecting someone with many great reviews...having gone thru their screening process. And having exchanged many emails & texts(up until 3hours of appointment). Then 20 minutes before appointment...text for directions, and never hearing back! Left 2 voicemails..couple of texts. I am venting, but this kinda shit is very unprofessional...

Newsflash alert......The same SHIT happens to us providers as well!!

It's part of the business. Just continue going through your grievance stages, don't be influenced by negative people or you will become jaded, take a cooling off period and get back out there.

Gurantee you will meet a provider/providers who will make you forget what happened.

The girls have guys who waste their time (constant emails, trying to get something for nothing, book and do not show maybe for the fantasy, say they are players and are not, the list is endless....I am sure). Guys reviews hurt a girl, help a girl, do nothing for a girl. blah, blah, blah... Guys push girls to do things they are uncomfortable with to get business. Girls get jaded. Guys get jaded. Stuff happens. and...

Flakes are flakes - BUT

If someone books an appointment in ANY OTHER BUSINESS, and does not show, or converses a bit too much, I seriously doubt you will EVER see the business picking on the potential Client or base of clients in a public forum where other clients might read it. However, there are YELP, and other sites where a consumer can see how flakey a business is.... If we could post NCNS reviews....

Why? It just AIN'T good for the "feeling" created. I mean, I do not want to go to a business who thinks so little of their clients that they would slam a general population in public. And sites like this that drive revenue from both ladies and gents do not want to piss off their clients with NCNS reviews. Makes good business sense. So how do guys know?

Old saying "those with the money make the rules".

This phenom started as ladies got cocky and thought it was ok to speak their mind about clients behind the veil of the internet. Guess what. It's not cool. And you don't find it in a lot of other cities. Hits are hits in any internet business (views). Advertising good, bad, or ugly driving hits is good. Phoenix is a quagmire.

No offense Bailey - not directed at you. An observation of the state of affairs here I would personally like to see changed. Create the fantasy a bit more. Gentle. Sweet. Kind. Lady like. I still dig you Bailey. You are cool and crazy. Sexy TBD as I have not seen you. I do think about rubbing honey all over your six pack abs, but I digress...

Yea, there are guys who dig a good a$$ whipping. And will see a girl for the novelty. And who they themselves are a bit cocky and like a cocky broad (you ladies know who you are, don't you. DON'T YOU! lol). But my guess is that is a small set of the population.

Pleasure and pain. We make our choice.

Peace




Sorry to say the least these providers are very unprofessional.  I require reservations & a 50% deposit to book, so I value my playtime.  I would never flake on a client.

I have been in this hobby for a long time. I have had quite a few girls flake on me over the years. And I know a lot of guys will do the same thing to you ladies. It is not right no matter who does it. Shit happens, I know. But why not a simple reply(text, call...something) to let the other person know, and not leaving them hanging. I was pissed the other day. I had reset my schedule to see her(you all know what I am talking about). I just needed to vent.....just found out an old friend is in town, and her and I are hooking up...all is good...

Know exactly what you are talking about. Worse yet is the no response for three days and the morning of the appointment date you originally asked for (and NEVER received a response about) you receive a “are we still on” Text? WTF?

The disparity with how some Ladies run their “Businesses” (it IS a business after all) is amazing to me. Equally amazing is that the “Bad Businesswomen” are still able to make a living.

I for one will not see a Lady who fails to communicate and have stopped seeing some of my favorites because of poor or no communication from them. The ones who are great at it (communication) will survive; the others will eventually see their business diminish. It is a business axiom!

Posted By: cdfix
Know exactly what you are talking about. Worse yet is the no response for three days and the morning of the appointment date you originally asked for (and NEVER received a response about) you receive a “are we still on” Text? WTF?

The disparity with how some Ladies run their “Businesses” (it IS a business after all) is amazing to me. Equally amazing is that the “Bad Businesswomen” are still able to make a living.

I for one will not see a Lady who fails to communicate and have stopped seeing some of my favorites because of poor or no communication from them. The ones who are great at it (communication) will survive; the others will eventually see their business diminish. It is a business axiom!

Two providers did this to me in the same day, I was mad as hell, because I wasted an entire afternoon driving all around the valley to have them flake on me.  I over compensated for the potential flake factor the last time I scheduled something with a provider, what I did was just have two chicks come to my hotel room, they both showed up together, so we just did a 3some.  That is thinking outside of the box, if I may quote an overused cliche.

..............  Book with Monica  ..... I have NEVER cancelled a confirmed appointment. I can't lick my own ...... believe me i've tried ;)

Posted By: spyguy007
Is anyone else as fed up with flakes as I am?  After doing research, selecting someone with many great reviews...having gone thru their screening process. And having exchanged many emails & texts(up until 3hours of appointment). Then 20 minutes before appointment...text for directions, and never hearing back! Left 2 voicemails..couple of texts. I am venting, but this kinda shit is very unprofessional...

For those of us who don't flake or cancel. It's equally as frustrating when a client flakes on us. Why can't all of us "non-flakes" just stick together so we don't have to deal with this crap? Everyone's time is valuable.  I hate flakes! On both sides. Just flakes in general. Annoying!

So we agree that flaking is not good. And I think it is safe to say, if there was a reliable way to know a womans schedule AND that they would not flake when an appointment was set, we would all be good.

I like Monica's site - she lists the days and BEFORE OR AFTER times she is available. Actually looks up to date. And while my schedule has not aligned, I will see her at some point.

If on that same page there was a NO CANCELLATION GUARANTEE or IF YOU CANCEL PENALTY

No Cancellation Guarantee - If the DATE/TIME/LENGTH OF TIME/SERVICE has been definitively agreed on (I am not talking about a ping to see if someone has time - but both parties actually going "yuppers, this is going to work). And if the provider cancels, she owes you an hour. Period. End the lame excuses (even if a car breaks down, etc - she still owes you the hour).

If the Gentleman cancels, blacklist him. Simple. Regardless of reviews and status. Let him know you will in a kind way, see if there is any comprimise to make it up.

Sounds harsh, but how else do you change a bad behaviour. I would like to have a list of those girls who are on tine, do not cancel, flexible scheduling (that is key for me, I often do not know days in advance).

Maybe some folks have other ideas........

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