Hi...I see these woman from the Goddess Temple.  Is this real?  Are the woman worth it.  Or are there much better choices???

IF you are Hindu and believe in goddesses and tantra (all hindu beliefs) they are great.

They may be great but discret they are NOT.
The neighbors have complained so much that not have they gotten press but police have investigated them.

Wouldn't be a lot better to see any of the numerous great ladies here who don't make the news??

http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2009/02/26/20090226sr-realestate0227.html

Is this a case of professional jealousy? Or putting someone down to raise yourself up? I would seriously like to know why you want to discredit ladies with TER reviews.

There are different kinds of providers with different kinds of service. It's what the hobbyist is interested in that's important. The goddesses offer a particular style, just like a massage and happy ending or PSE are styles. You have a style too; you're probably good at it.

Men here can take care of themselves. They don't need a mama hen to keep them straight. There are obviously guys on TER who don't listen to reviews, let alone the board posts. -- you see badly reviews ho's get more reviews. You are going to protect those guys anyway. The gents that participate in boards, and pay attention to reviews do theri homework and probably already know about the issues you brought up. I sure did.

But I think the approach of protecting hobbyists is disingenous; that it is more self serving. I may be wrong, but that's what I see.

First at least I don't have to hide behind an alias.  WHY MUST YOU??  

Second I reported a news story so as everyone can make educated decisions.  Just like now and since the big bust, people can decide who they want to associate/or see based on information. Not trying OR wanting to be anyone's mama. INFORMATION is the reason for the post PERIOD.

Third, I agree we all have different tastes and styles.  We will all never agree on everything. That is what I enjoy most about life.

I was just reporting information that is public knowledge, but since he is an out of towner, would NOT know this and to let each judge on their own whether or not they would want to see them or not.

Chill.  Life is too short.  So sorry if information - that is shown with a link to a police investigation is such a wrong thing to do - NOT.

Everyone let's just all get along and look out for each other.

There was just comment made about everyone wondering who ABAZ really is. CAUSE THAT'S AN ALIAS. This is the only "alias" I am going to use so if you want to figure out who I am ON THE BOARD, then just look for my posts. You will never, ever, ever, ever know who I really am anyway. So drop it.

I agree with you ON THIS
"Everyone let's just all get along and look out for each other."

NOT THIS
"I was just reporting information that is public knowledge, but since he is an out of towner..."
Really, you care about just him. Then PM that stuff instead of trashing other providers out loud. If you DIDN'T realize you were doing that, then you need to do a Dr. Phil here, and take your own inventory.

That is my ONLY ISSUE with your post is that you are trashing other decent ladies. This is not an attack on you AT ALL. It's calling out what I see as a poor method that discredits others. It's not the first time, so I'm posting my thoughts...

...which are:

"Everyone let's just all get along and look out for each other." AND NOT TRASH OTHER TER PROVIDERS.

and I'm chill.

you dont have the courage of your convictions to use your real board handle so you twat it up and hide.
Of course no one with belief in their opinion would use one.

i certainly never have as im not a coward. if i have something to say ill say it to someones face in real life or on this board.

you however cannot make that claim so i have no respect for you or your position on anything.

If you are just looking for your typical rub and tug, you may want to look elsewhere.

Tracy and company will offer the time not only for your bodily pleasure but can educate you in increasing your orgastic potential which in turn can change the way you live your whole life. The educational aspect has the ability to open you up to possibilities that you never imagined if you can keep an open mind.

They are also what I would call "lay" therapists. They are non-judgmental, compassionate people and can help you relieve issues you may have surrounding your sexuality.

I am a woman. I have had a two hour session which I thoughly enjoyed. It was non-sexual (that was what I wanted) but it was educational and relaxing and I felt great about myself and my work after speaking with Tracy.

Tantra is an Eastern Spiritual practice, but The Goddess Temple is not Hindu. They mix a wide range of spiritual ideas to help you relax into the moment and open you up to your LIFE and everything around you! Reichian Therapy closely resembles what I have found "Tantra" to be in the West.  

I would not say it is massage or rub and tug. It is much much more!

Regardless of their recent media coverage, I think the Temple is a safe place. They are a little different, but I believe they are bringing the healing and education that this planet needs.

If you have further questions, you can PM me or better yet, Tracy is open and honest. Give her a call to discuss what it is you are looking for.

Good luck to you!
xoxo
Gina Marie

Reichian Therapy link:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-reichian-therapy.htm

they were investigated but they WEREN'T arrested.

we should be grateful to them for representing our industry so positively.

to the original poster, i've had some clients speak highly of their visits to their temple.. definitely worth the cost of admission but it is very different from a gfe session.

My definition Tantra is based on Hindu beliefs.

You can not hide illegal acts which Tantra includes by claiming it has religious protection.

I totally support the education and which it was legal although I have no interest in Tantra since I do not believe in Hinduism.  But it SHOULD be legal as should all in private consenting adult sexuality. But it isn't.

Tantra refers to a series of esoteric Hindu books that describe certain sexual rituals and meditations. These ancient Indian books, over two thousand years old, were written in the form of a dialogue between the Hindu god Shiva, who is the penetrating power of focused energy, and his consort, Shakti, who represents the female creative force. The Hindu Tantras enjoyed sexual play and sexual union as an act of joyful celebration, as a demonstration of connectedness, as a symbolic affirmation of the unity inherent in a couples relationship. The skills are bringing previously unheard of fulfillment to many couples practicing Tantra techniques.

What was amazing to me is that many of the 20th Century sexual discoveries are the same techniques Tantra has taught for 2000 years. For example the G-spot is nothing more than the Sacred Spot of Tantra and the newest CAT (Clitoral Alignment Technique) is also this old. But with our societys sexual repression, it has taken us much longer to learn about our sexuality than in ancient days.

I totally support the ideas of Tantra but the same can be done without the Hindu spirtuality. I support the concept of the great positive sexual attitudes but the Hindism isn't needed.

Sample of my views:
Tantra & The Tao Insights Regardless Of Religious Belief
The Tao - What Christians and everyone should learn about intimacy
Tantra: The lost art of fulfilling sexuality but with a more Christian or non religious approach
http://www.libchrist.com/tantratao/contents.html

But there still remains the legal issues which is why we need to change the law or fight it directly.

Bad typing

My definition Tantra is based on Hindu beliefs.

Should be :The definition .. not mine but what Tantra is which I later quote how Tantra has been defined.

If you can do it without touching the breast, anus or genitals you wound be legal but that is not what most Tantra is about.

as a noun, which is how it is used here, an alias is a pseudonym, a pen name, an assumed name, a stage name.

An alias is use to CORRECTLY IDENTIFY someone. That's how it originated. It is still used that way today. e.g. "William" is an ordinary name. "Billy The Kid" is one person, and infamous at that.

Over time aliases began to be used in circumstances to shield a person's real legal name, such as for criminal activity. In some circumstances, using an alias takes on a negative connotation culturally, regardless of the purpose or intent of the alias.

That is what is going on here. You and many like you, incorrectly infer wrong intent and ascribe you own narrow perceptions to others action by claiming the use of a TER duscussion board alias is a mark of poor character and intent.

You are are wrong about that as you are the definition of the word.

Just as you think this the act of a coward. I think that view is one of a fool.

Using your own viewpoint, here is how I see this

moebius8 is an alias used by a person who does not have the courage of his convictions to use his real legal name so s/he twats it up and hides.

We are in America with free speech, and of course no one with belief in their opinions expressed here would use one.

Anyone who claims to not be a coward, and has something to say will say it to someones face in real life or on this board without using an alias like moebius8.

Since you however cannot make that claim to measure up to your own criteria, I have no respect for you or your position on anything.

Tantra means many things to many people, so I'm not going to debate about what it is or is not. Since it was introduced in the West, it has taken many shapes and forms from simple yoga and meditation (white tantra) to sexual practices (red tantra).

Through meditation, breath, an awareness of energy in your body and the ability to move this energy, you can reach ecstatic states and experience whole body orgasms. No need for genital touching. I have experienced this and it is awesome, but definietly a different experience! In terms of education, I believe if asked, the ladies at the Temple can teach these things.

On the other hand, if someone isn't ready for all that and just wants a relaxing enjoyable experience, I'm sure the ladies at the Temple would be more than happy to tailor a session to suit the clients wants and needs as long as it is within the practitioners comfort level. I believe this can be discussed at the beginning of a session.  

When I was there, I didn't feel that any religious doctrine was being imposed on me. Having an interest in holistic(wholebody) healing and Eastern Philosophy enabled me to connect with the language that was used. That is all...

I do believe that those who label themselves  Sexual Healers and have participated in supervised training and workshops are closer to being legitimatized than those of us who are escorts. Just my opinion!

xoxo
Gina Marie

plenty of people in the hobby know my real name and know the board id i use with it.

lol try again, your lacking in contacts in the hobby or you would know exactly who i am

im not a pussy and i dont hide. since you dont know the name associated with this board id i dont know you; so your a nobody.

i dont associate with nobodies or worry about what they think about much of anything.

hell i wasted two minutes of my life to reply to your whine

First of all, I SUPPORT everyone in what ever spiritual beliefs they have and yes it should be legal even "red" tantra.  But my guess is less than 10% of clients technically only do what is legal with our lack of sexual freedom.

In the massage community there has been an ongoing fight for decades even over energy therapies that don't even TOUCH the body if they have to be LMT's or not.  I forget what the AZ sitaution is but decades ago I was in the middle of it in Minnesota and its still an issue.

Minnesota passed a special alternative therapy law which is complex to exempt in certain cases those from having to be LMT,s but absolutely nothing sexually stimulating can be done, unfortunately.  Our arcane laws do not recognize the healing powers of sex, whatever beliefs it is based on.

Likewise sex surrogacy is only legal in Calf and I believe Pennsylvania.  It can not be advertised and you can not go directly to a surrogate, you have to be referred by a licensed Psy and under their supervision to be legal.

About 20 years ago - powerfully meaningful book greatly influenced by interest in sexual healing - Reaching Intimacy by Richard Dehann a licensed sex surrogate in Los Angeles now retired.  Met him a few times and introduced him as a speaker at some groups in Calf. One of best books I had every read and motivated me to explore the healing aspects of sexual healing.

You are lucky to be able to be in the field more directly which I respect and honor even if I am not into the Tantra spiritual aspects (such as the energy and chakra's which have no scientific physical basis from my research only Hindu and Eastern Religious beliefs.)  But this isn't meant to be a religious controversy, and I fight for the rights to practice these beliefs.

My point is trying to fight for your right to practice whatever type of sexual healing is right for you and your clients.

But sadly that is not the case today and just because it includes non sexual activities and religious beliefs does not protect it from our repressive laws.