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Here is the recent discussion thread
justawondering 2264 reads
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As it discussed here not long ago, someone asked about the Studio. Well today, as they said, "after a 6 month investigation it was found to be a prostitution ring".

Is any one surprised? Really?

justawondering 1841 reads
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SerenaVincente See my TER Reviews 1469 reads
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tvlaw 58 Reviews 1595 reads
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tvlaw 58 Reviews 1584 reads
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This is not good for any of us. The clueless owners persuaded a few lady's to trust in their brainchild of operating openly under the guise that they were a production company that was untouchable. I know that many people on this forum disagreed with me not long ago when I posted it was a matter of time. Unfortunately, now we find out that they have been building a case for at least 6 months and the class 2 felonies are inevitable. If I was one of their former clients, (which I am not) I would be anticipating a visit or a subpoena to appear before the Grand Jury, As I suggested before. Thus, I hope that any fellow hobbyist will possibly benefit by this post. I don't want to come off as a know it all regardless of more than 25 years in the profession. I know that the domino tactics of prosecutors and investigators will come into play sooner than later. This is why I don't like the idea of giving personal info to see anyone. I wish the best of luck to the hobbyist and the providers in this case. Lawyer up!

elitegray See my TER Reviews 1401 reads
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for people to listen. I do not feel sorry for anyone. IF men are that week to knowingly go to a place like this after so many recent bust in just a few yrs then its their own fault. If you are in this hobby - play smart.  Be responsible. If you know a place is a prime target...WHY GO ?

Fellow providers and hobbyist ? Get real.  
Almost feel bad for the girls working. 140 for 30 mins, imagine how much the girls got out of that.

elitegray See my TER Reviews 1471 reads
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If It was me who got busted... Where would any of you be to support me ? Fellow hobbyist or providers. Keep your own self safe. Don't be low hanging fruit nor get to big and flashy. Don't be desperate for the money and HAVE to see a client and not screen and get caught. DONT use any affiliated ORGANIZED organization OF ANY SORT. Don't go or use a place that keeps a paper trail or a building- If you don't think your are being watched.. You are wrong.. even if not the LE the people or residence around. You don't think they do not notice only men going into a place ? And the amount of traffic ? You don't think that nosy 80 yr old lady doesn't have speed dial on her phone -as she is worried about EVERYTHING !!  Don't UNDER THINK. If you have a bad feeling it is usually right.  

I have been in situations Many times where I felt a email or meeting was not right or a sting. Even after information checks out... if I do not feel right about it.. I don't do it. I have been in the parking lot .. waiting and watching my surroundings and felt uneasy before entering , noticing things that are not right. ..SO I left. End of story.  

NOTHING OR Nobody is worth your life .. in any aspect. And NOBODY from THIS community will be there or by your side to help you.. Captain- SAVE YOUR SELF !

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ki.wan 76 Reviews 1356 reads
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We all participate and play in the same world. Personally, I think it is insensitive to laugh at the ladies and gentlemen who will suffer from this. Yes, they made a mistake in being involve with the "studio", but remember they are also mothers, sisters, sons, fathers and hopefully good human beings. Also, there are plenty of people in our industry that get busted even if they do their best to protect themselves. I would never make fun of you if I saw you on the evening news. We are a community, like it or not, and you should support it (not kick it when it's down). For my part, you are definitely off my list of ladies to see.  
I have personally not visited the "studio" and if you did, I only wish the best for you that you will be safe and sound.

Best Wishes

DAVEPHX 1472 reads
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As in prior cases some of the time probably spent with undercover cars monitoring the parking lot for car license numbers and establishing who was there and when.  

Would not be surprised if they sent in Christina to apply for job - she has been great at fooling other places with her story about being a former escort and is attractive.  

The owner has a very narrow defense in my view but will probably lose in Superior Court and have to take to Appeals.

The women are more like in the Temple case - they face serious felonies and potential prison being duped into thinking it was legal.  They need bond money, they need attorneys which may cost $25,000+ pretrial and much more if go to trial.  Assume most can not afford so will get public defenders.

The case will probably go on for years (Temple now in 3rd year) and in the meantime the gals probably can get no other work because their felony arrest record prevents most any employment in normal work.

This is same they can do for 2 companions working together or have a driver or boyfriend helping = Criminal Enterprise felony with potential 10+ years in prison and all the gals so far felony charged due to "association" as in other similar cases.


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elitegray See my TER Reviews 1131 reads
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DAVEPHX 1445 reads
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Yes, they made a mistake in being involve with the "studio", but remember they are also mothers, sisters, sons, fathers and hopefully good human beings. Also, there are plenty of people in our industry that get busted even if they do their best to protect themselves. I would never make fun of you if I saw you on the evening news. We are a community, like it or not, and you should support it (not kick it when it's down).

But the Community totally runs away when these nice women face especially the common felony charges.   As discussed in depth you know where there are lawyers ready to attack the law that have won in similar cases but no one is willing to fund the support since everyone hides and then feels relieved it was not them that was busted.  Have 2 law firms ready to go but both need $100K just to start the case since it would be a constitutional Challenger and only for in private of course nothing to do with street work.    After about 3 months in once case only $10k raised even with a winning attorney on uTube talking about potential to win.  

BTW I can not read private messages being sent to me here - most folks know how to reach me directly.

ki.wan 76 Reviews 1129 reads
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That's fine. It's your business and how you make a living. Not mine. Just remember, you participate in a large group also. TER, TPR, P411, etc. All of them can be penetrated also. I hope for your sake you have a safe and long prosperous career in this business. Then again, Karma is a...........

victoria1990 See my TER Reviews 1455 reads
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Actually Bill, the owner, is or was very good friends with the people at Temple Massage and saw the bust on tv

ki.wan 76 Reviews 1250 reads
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"DONT use any affiliated ORGANIZED organization OF ANY SORT."

Guess you will be leaving TER and TPR. Goodbye.

elitegray See my TER Reviews 1329 reads
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Ok, You don't want to see me. Ok, Move one. There is a dffence in organized. Now you have your feelings hurt from PM and want to make it out to be about me.. Get on subject ! The fact is There has been MANY warnings about this place. Recent bust has happened with in the last two yrs to tell ANYONE to not get involved in open organiztions. Fellow hobbyist and providers have said do not go. What more can someone want ? If the community is what it is.. where was your or anyone else when the temple got busted ? A very goo provider we ALL know went down in that with children.. Where was Anyone from the community to pay her legal bills and fees ? To help with her problems from providing you a service ? Whom was apart of allot of which this community was about. Where were you ? Do not get but hurt because I am not afraid to speak the truth.  

Do I feel bad- For the girls who were getting pennies on a dollar and who who had to meet so many men in one day to pay bills.. yes. They were young and didn't know any better. We ALL know that Haahahhahah  wasn't for them. THAT Hahhahha  was for the simple minded gents that put them selves in the lane of fire not listing to the COMMUNITY and thinking with the small head. That hahahahha was for the take down of the studio. Which in the end is not good for what the community is supposed to be about low end brothels and has nothing to do with TER and what "we" do here ! Places like that give girls in THIS community a bad name. It also takes away from real providers business.

Officially DONE with this topic. If you have anything else to say "to me" ki.wan - be a gent and email me. Let the topic be the topic. Public bashing and telling me to go away is so elementary !

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ki.wan 76 Reviews 1289 reads
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1) Sorry but my feelings are not hurt by your comments. You and I however differ in our opinions.  
2) I do apologize if others think my posts have over taken the subject of the original post
3) Yes you are absolutely right in that financially I did not support any previously busted members of the community. But I did not laugh at them either
4) I also disagree that it has nothing to do with TER and what "we" do here. Just check the amount of reviews on the "studio". It is very possible one of your regulars have visited the place.  
5) I guess I got some ed-ju-ma-kay-tion on what "real" providers are all about

unlucky2 27 Reviews 1302 reads
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With the Studio bust and the Denver bust this week, we all just need to play safer. If nobody knows about the Denver bust, LE used P411 to set up lunch get to know you dates, at which point the providers gave the LE undercover an Okay on his P411 account and then they set up more dates for a sting. I believe there were 22 providers arrested and 12 where from P411. So ladies and gents there is a reason to screen thoroughly.

Lets all have some fun
unlucky

justdonebyu 3 Reviews 1449 reads
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ome may have read it, but he states something at the bottom worth repeating:

"This is same they can do for 2 companions working together or have a driver or boyfriend helping = Criminal Enterprise felony with potential 10+ years in prison and all the gals so far felony charged due to "association" as in other similar cases. "

Go to an incall with two girls - risk. (Brothel)
Criminal Enterprise - risk. (records, locations, money trails...)

There are laws around this. Know what they are. And what RISKS are greater than others for you as an individual. Not saying all situations are bad. BUt please know the risks. Especially when there are so many choices.  

As in Las Vegas recently, it is not always clear who an indie is versus "enterprise". 5 or 6 indies exited the business overnight together. After the bust of a party promoter.

Hobby saf

ITAdmin 8 Reviews 1078 reads
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ITAdmin 8 Reviews 1390 reads
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moparman 41 Reviews 1179 reads
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and stop voting for bullshit republicans or democrats, if your personal freedoms like this are worth more than the entitlements and bullshit rhetoric you receive from both those other parties.

Until that day comes, consenting adults will be treated as major criminals and 6 months of your tax payer dollars will go to stop consenting adults from doing a consenting private deed.

tumak 4 Reviews 1243 reads
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What a waste of money and manpower that was  allocated to investigating this little enterprise involving consenting adults. Our tax dollars being flushed down the toilet. What a joke. Personally I've been planning to visit the studio for the last couple of months based on the reviews of the girls I was reading. Particularly those on their knees, mouth open tongue out for your load endings most of the girls were willing to do. Makes me horny just thinking about it. Almost went this week. I'm glad I didn't based on the 6 month investigation. 6 months, wow, reminds me of the indian bend road work between hayden and scottsdale road that took 10 years or so. I was hoping the studio would be around a long time and other places would open up and follow suit. A nice alternative to the overpriced providers we have right now. I know I will never see the critical one on this thread. Talk about an attitude.
Anyway, it's too bad. Those girls were sexy.

foxy kay See my TER Reviews 1411 reads
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The records that agencies keep are so detailed and  so is ones personal information. I wonder what evidence was seized..... My question  is did they accept credit cards out of curiosity?

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TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 1126 reads
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GreekDeprived 1134 reads
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“..Rootstrikers Campaign...”

“money bomb.”  

David vrs Goliath.  Sometimes David slays Goliath.

What seems most likely is not inevitable.

Deprive

Latin_active82 55 Reviews 1305 reads
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I called once as I was interested in seeing one of the providers, but they said they only took cash, so there is no financial paper trail. However from what I was told is they have a copy of the video shoot which you can get copies of. I was going to go but thank God I never did.  

Posted By: foxy kay
  The records that agencies keep are so detailed and  so is ones personal information. I wonder what evidence was seized..... My question  is did they accept credit cards out of curiosity?

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balljointnut 23 Reviews 1220 reads
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So I'm guessing your LE if you know who they might have sent in?  

Can you provide some documentation on prior cases?

AZReadyman 22 Reviews 1284 reads
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In my view Dave got this just right from a legal perspective, but the gals working there were certainly assured that they were involved in a LEGAL enterprise.  Their boss told them so.  The ad they responded to told them it was legal.  The phone rep would tell you it's legal, so come on down and make porn.  Any 5 minute search would pull up lots of evidence that porn production in AZ is not legal, and would be prosecuted.  These gals were internet savvy!  They should have known.

The thing is that when there is an owner, a lawyer, legal-type documents, an on site doctor, a professional place to conduct business, so it looks legit.  There is a thin legal argument that it is. So a gal-- an unemployed gal, a student, a single mother, a married mother, someone, anyone, looking for a job finds lots out there at $10/hr before tax, $70 bucks an hour sounds pretty good.  

The gals who worked there to pay their own way through life thinking that they were making good money doing a legal service are the ones getting screwed.  Our culture is screwed.  This activity did not hurt anyone. There are lots of worse things going on all around us that do hurt us as a society (drugs) much more.

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