If you do not have VIP you cannot read the reviewers history so if you see a very off the wall review that is very negative and rude and flys in the face of what every other reviewer has experienced with this provider what should happen to this review? should it be allowed or removed? I always consider the sourse and sure enough this guy had three reviews and all of them were critical and hurtful to each provider he reviewed , shame on the hobbiest that goes out of his way to trash someone just for the sake of being mean spirited sounds like a personal problem he has with women in general. Everyone should  have a VIP mebership that hobbys so you can see the history of the few assholes that go out of their way to be unkind. Victoria

I so absolutely agreeeeee!  When I am searching reviews I always take the extra step to see whom it is that is writing.  If he's only got one or two reviews and he is rating someone a 9 or 10, I wonder what he is comparing the experience to.  Same holds true for someone who always rates very low, yet the other reviews for the lady in question are top notch.

Pays to do some homework.

..and a classic example why the vet hobbiests are always telling us newbies to take time to read and research everything!

If a provider with a string of excellent reviews suddenly gets one that's bad (for example, a run of 8/8s being interrupted by a 4/5), I assume the bad review is a statistical outlier. Maybe the provider was having a very bad day, maybe she and the client just didn't click, or maybe he's making the whole thing up for some reason. So, I don't give it much weight, much as I would disregard a single 10/10 after a run of 3s and 4s.

However, I do keep an eye for later reviews to see if the bad one was an anomaly or the start of a trend.

--b.
 (Trust, but verify.)

I agree with what your saying but being a provider and haveing some jerk saying just plain mean spirited things like bad skin or strechmarks or calling one trailer-park trash is just uncalled for and yet then says how nice you were to him it just does not make sense and why doesnt TER look at past history on BOTH sides before posting something so hurtful?

and the guys numbers from previous reviews are not out of line with what those ladies were given before by others.

yet they were way off on this one right? so it just seems  this was a mean review in general and he has yet to find anyone he has rated above a 7 and as low as 1 go figure and I just checked the other girls reviews and how can you state they were on point? get real the second gal had some 10's and mostly 8,s she got 7-7 the other was a ROB so we really cannot count that one right?

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I didn't find it mean.

A lot of others I know only review if it was something out of the norm of the other reviews for the girl- if they had the same experience as 150 others, they feel no review is needed.

maybe for YOU this would of been a good review .....but for those of us that strive to provide a good service it is a slap in our face.Interesting that you do not post without  an aliase so we could see your reviews

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The guy's sole purpose in addition to the uncalled for bashing is to provoke a reaction. Understand it is difficult to not say anything and we all feel the need to defend someone that we all love who is unfairly criticized, but let's not give this guy any publicity. We all know that the provider in question is first rate. Just because one fool says otherwise really is inconsequential.

Someone spent money that they probably couldn't afford to spend in the first place, and only way to get even is to trash a top provider....
Maybe if you would have just been honest from the jump she wasn't your type, I know her well enough to know she wouldn't have even accepted a dollar of your money, and wouldn't have wasted her time, no one wants to spend time with another that just isn't into them if you get what I mean!
I spend quality time with this person frequently, and I won't spend my time with just anyone...Isa xoxo

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Just curious, should the review be removed? also I think some of us would like to know who he is to be certain never to spend one minute with such a classless guy

this guys other reviews were ranked right in tune with what everyone else said about the girls so while they may seem low, they dont seem to be off.

there are some guys who only post reviews when they feel as if they need to warn the other guys.. in fact, i think that was the original intent of reviews.

its a good lessoon for us all. no matter how high you've ranked in the past, noone is above reproach.

every gal has bad days and good days.  As well as we won't necessarily "click" with everyone.  So maybe she had a bad day or there was no chemistry.  But Victoria TOU WERE NOT there so remember everyone can be "off" sometimes.

NO ONE is perfect and even though this review is maybe not her usual numbers, he is ENTITLED to his opinion and stating what HE experienced.  So NO I don't think it should be removed.  Reviews should only be removed if:
1.  they are self reviews
2.  they are false and can be provn so
3.  the gals requests ALL of her reviews to be removed

So obviously you didn't appreciate his comments but he is entitled to them as you are entitled to yours.  

But I do agree that when looking at reviews you should look to see how he has rated others. But everyone has a right to express their opinions, just as you and I have done here.

Not being negative or hurtful just giving my opinion.  

Everyone play safe (and nice).

Each of us that sees providers, any provider, has to decide if she is  someone we will 'click' with.  Chemestry.  Sometimes, theere is none, even after reading stellar reviews.  A provider is not going to hit it off, with allclients. now, having said this, there is No reason for posting false or even hatefull reviews.  Also, one man's 9/9 is another's 7/6.  Good points by all.  Thanks, Victoria.

Any one that has met her in person at a M&G or had the privilege of her company knows she is a classy lady and not trailer trash. This has to be a false review or he was trailer trash and she wanted nothing to do with him and was happy to get away from his company and that’s why he trashed her. So let’s find out who this guy is and invite him to a M&G. Oh boy you ladies
would have fun with him.

It shouldn't be removed. Painful as it may be, if he was giving an honest opinion, then it's a legitimate review and should stay up.

--b.

That's a big IF how do we know if it was an honest opinion? As for calling someone trailer-trash I think that is reason enough to have it removed ....

"That's a big IF how do we know if it was an honest opinion?"

And how do we know it isn't? Without proof to the contrary, I think the operating assumption has to be that a review is genuine. Otherwise the review system itself collapses.

As for his rudeness, well, if reviews could be deleted for being being hurtful, there would be a lot pulled. And yet the nature of reviewing means that someone will get their feelings hurt by an unkind remark. That doesn't mean a review should be pulled. That's just the risk of being in a service profession that generates reviews.

Look at it this way: if this guy's review is so out of line with the general track record of this provider*, then anyone with any sense reading it will probably wonder more about him than her. Better to leave it up where other providers can see it when doing their screening, so they can decide whether they want to see him or not.

--b.
 *(Who can't form any judgment about the review itself, since he doesn't know who the provider in question is.)

She was not at the M & G.  So has she recently cut her hair?  If so, then I would say he probably saw her.  If not, then it is false and should be reported.

So bottom line is

HAS SHE RECENTLY CUT HER HAIR.

didnt she just call someone coach last week ?  maybe she displayed this superior attitude with him during his session and he recognized it for what it was.

he wasnt rude in his other reviews.  
he's very factual.

I do not believe there is any room in a review for a personal attack. That is not what I am looking for , I am only looking for an honest assessment of their time together. I think there is a lot of latitude in the numbers given as we all have a different picture of what a '10' is. I have a posted review that is 'off the standard' and while I take some discomfort with the  numbers I put up , i stand by them .As a reviewer, I want to review my experience, I don't want to feel the pressure of giving numbers that aren't 'real' for me . The 'YMMV' should be an adequate addition to a review which is not as glowing as previous ones. When I saw the numbers of this particular review today, I gotta tell you , i was floored. My first thought was somebody pissed off somebody real good. I have spent a number of hours with this lady and i can't imagine that on her worst day , she would command those numbers.

satisfied....some guys won't be happy no matter what. I just wonder why his perception was ok!

It is not for us to question it. I don't think we providers should be questioning reviews it's bad enough when it's our own but questioning someone else.  I think the provider should be dealing with the gent herself if none of this reads true!

I've seen much worse in other reviews over the last few years that I have been around. I think anyone that's been around long enough know what to look for or don't give two hoots about one bad review.

Just seems ironic about his wording and the hoop la that was said in a prior post regarding first class and coach!

I'm not sure why were giving this so much attention, Unless it's a bogus review......... We really should not be questioning anyone's review and how he perceived it to be!

T

You are what you are an alias

Why no response as to whether or not she cut her hair??
Must be true then so since that is a fact only someone who has recentoy seen her would know that then he must have seen her.  So yes YMMV and leave it at that.  

And as far as the comment she made about other gals being coach - that too is true and was uncalled for.  Dang if Aria is coach, then I am freight.  Let's see, am I Fed Ex, UPS, or DHL???

This provider did cut her beautiful hair and donated her golden locks to locks of love so a sick child now has her hair that is the kind of person this women is....the coach comment was taken out of context and maybe was the wrong wording but anybody who believes there are not differnt tiers in this hobby is lying ...the beauty of the hobby is that we have that option to shop where one can afford there is something for everyones enjoyment and Misty you could be a private plane that flys high because you are the owner of whatever you want to be. 90% is having a good attitude and of course being able to afford the fuel to fly over the cloulds heres to many good flights.......V ictoria

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the more it stinks.

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Thanks Victoria but I think I am freight...I love "handling" those "packages" too much.

Great that she donated her hair I had always wanted to but they don't allow colored hair and yes I color - opps only my hairdresser knew for sure - no everyone does it these days even teenagers.  

My question for you is why is someone's elses review so important to you?  And if this was so important why hasn't she posted herself?  Are you now her mouthpiece?  

We all read reviews but why was this such an issue for you personally?  We have all gotten bad reviews, so what?  We know that is just one and that YMMV always CUMs into play.  

And as far as the comment that was made about coach, she never really explained herself or apologized. And a number of guys at the M & G discussed with me that they were expecting her there to explain herself.  But she didn't show.

Again thanks for the sweet words and I agree attitude is important and maybe hers wasn't that great that day...so what.  Let's move on.  

Hi Misty, I am not Myas mothpiece in fact I never even mentioned her name until everyone figured it out .....I would have done the same for anyone that was my friend and had been attacked in such a hurtful way....Mya was out of town working and could not make the party. As far the the coach versr firt class , she was just telling updog to stick with what he knows and then he would not of had the problem he did by trying to see a newer gal that was very nice but extra careful and things got very confusing from that point....so coach to me seemed to speak more about  being a seasoned savy provider than say a somewhat rookie at least that was my thought,,,,peace victoria

This is an issue because mean, hurtful, and hateful things were said. There is such thing as tack. I think that sometimes people forget that words do hurt. Experiences can be written or said without tearing someone down.

~ Carlee

with 17 pages of reviews, this one couldve  gotten lost amidst them and easily been overlooked.

its a good thing you brought so much attention to it.  

then again, maybe thats why she didnt post anything herself.

quick note to all my friends out there just in case there's any confusion ------ ...

please dont take something negative that is said about me and make it a topic of ter discussion.


just sh
thanks

Victoria,

off the wall reviews seem to be the pattern all of a sudden. I have been checking to see the reviewers that are new here & have found that there is a select few that enjoy posting bogus reviews & reviews that are out of charector for the provider that is reviewed.
I always rely on those that have been reviewing for at least a year & have some creditable reviews to their name.
If they only have one review & its for a brand new provider or a bad review of a well reviewed provider, I always consider the source. Good providers know when they have had a bad experience with a hobbyist & tend to fix things right there & then. They are good at damage control. Just my 2 cents

TMAN

I saw Mya in Tucson late on Wed (the evening before the meet n greet).  She told me then she wasn't going to be able to make it to the meet n greet so I don't think it was a big secret that she wasn't going.  Besides, why should any provider be EXPECTED to go to one of these?

Now I didn't get a chance to see the review in question nor see who posted the review but I don't think the issue is with the scores or the reviewers personal experience with the provider but rather with the way he chose to express himself.  There should be no reason to call someone deragatory names if that is what he did.  A factual accounting of the session combined with the reviewers own impression of the provider (everyone has their own opinion) is all that can be accepted.  Calling someone names is not either of these.  My nickel's worth...