Ok this is for the more popular providers to answer if the will. I have made the trip from canada twice in the last 3 months and will be coming back on a reg basis now in the spring and fall. Only problem is that i dont have any references. It seems all the best providers want references before they will meet you. Onr more question and this is the newbie in me talking, many ask for home phone #'s.....how come

Unfortunately, the timing for gentlemen to enter the Phoenix hobby scene is at its worst right now. There have been some significant law enforcement issues and violence problems in the past six months.

This board has not been as lively lately because many of us, including myself, have been keeping a low profile.

Thus, more than ever, a provider reference is extremely important to women, to reassure our safety and LE concerns.

However, there are ways to work around this if you don't have a reference. You would need to contact the provider in question, but basically by providing a certain amount of verifiable work and personal information, you could probably get around the lack of a reference.

Rather than give out your home number, ask the woman what other information might be sufficient in its place.

Good luck and have fun!

there are ways around the whole newbie issue. we have a cpl of resources available here in phoenix. email me at [email protected]

btw the only phone number ive ever given someone is my cell.

Since most of my hobbying has been in the Northwest and Canada would references in these areas be acceptable?  I am just planning ahead for a road trip to your area in a couple of months and will be there for about a week.
Thanks, Arnold

Indeed, the AZ climate has changed (and not in terms of enjoying 85 degrees in July).  I am also relatively new to the "hobby" and greatly depend upon the limited references I have.  I have met with some of the most reputable providers in the valley and yet, continue to experience difficulty in arranging appointments with tenured providers (Chrissy/Kandee, why no response)?    At any rate, we "newbies" greatly depend upon our references so please, follow-up on each and every one.