Truth is most providers despise/resent hobbyists. They pretend otherwise, but hey-- most hobbyists are: usually a blend of some of the following:  old, fat, impotent, bald, needy for a Girl friend, clutzy, nerdy, drunk, smelly, poor dressers, or idiots. Almost ALL are DELUSIONAL!

Read below, and either laugh, or weep.



http://freewebs.com/iftheyonlyknew/

I guess there's a lot can be said about the gals comments in the attach link. I guess you could call it a GFE equivalent to the rant of a couple weeks ago! Of course most of it is common sense. And hay, I'm big enough to admit, I may have learned something too. Or had stuf confirmed anyways.

I guess one could ass/u/me she doesn't speak Greek?......lol

the crazy part, I believe, is that these so-called connections that some guys THINK they have is a major, if not the major, reason for providers driving up the prices.  I can't believe what the $$$ providers look like and perform like these says.  Its too much to see the fantasy for a fantasy I guess.  I guess some guys connect with dancers too at strip clubs and do one more song because of the connectiob.  Puuhhlease.  Enjoy it with a dose of reality guys so the market can then correct itself.  Girls,  keep doing what ya doing, i admire it and it works.

I hear her 100%.  I pay to get off, not to get her off.  Not to sound callous, but I am a realist.  I enjoy being with the lady, but once I cum, I wanna get out of there.  No need to cuddle, that is what girlfriends are for...

Absofuckinlutely. Strictly pay for service.

Why exactly does this board have a fascination with the rantings of burned out providers? Don't get me wrong, these ladies have a right to rant and unleash any pent-up emotions they may have, and the previous posting from the provider in Denver was, at times, pretty damn funny. What I don't understand is the preoccupation, by this board, of this particular kind of diatribe.

Regarding discussions on this board, it appears recently that it is weighted by two types of posts: the sleuthing of providers ads on Eros (is she or isn't she who she appears to be), with the subsequent "you're the man!" sycophantic replies. Now, it seems like the "us vs them" (hobbiests vs providers)posts have become vogue. What a joyless board.

My comment to those men that believe all/most providers despise and resent hobbiests
is this: you are not that important to me. You do not  alter my view of men, my sexuality, or the world. I regret to inform you that I have no problem with my job, my clients...and guess what? All of the providers I have been in contact with are mentally healthy people who enjoy their job and see it for what it really is. They DON'T bash/hate clients. I really feel that your view is a tad bit misogynist.

It does not surprise me that the escort who owns this rant is burned out: she works for an agency that takes half her pay and makes her see more that two clients a day. I suggest that she take control of her life and work for herself. She might discover the pleasure of seeing one client in the morning/ early afternoon and then one client in the late afternoon/ evening. Just think, she could have the whole morning or afternoon to herself while the rest of the population is slaving away in the rat race. That fact alone gives an escort pause when she wants to quit. However, the best reason for a provider to work for herself is that she gets to CHOOSE her clientele. She will find it to be a pleasant surprise that there are some wonderful gentlemen who see this encounter for what it is, and nothing more. It is just a pleasurable escape.

I rarely post, except for infrequent schedule notifications, and an occasional welcome to visiting ladies. I hope you will indulge me this post, as I couldn't keep my opinion to myself this time.

Meh. Anyone who works with the public will start to hate their job sooner of later; all it takes is one serious asshole to ruin your week. Asking for and expecting respect and good manners is absolutely correct.

On the other hand, if you can't stand your customers, get out of the business. It's true no matter what you're selling; stay after you get bitter, and both your job performance and inner life will go to hell.

-- Modified on 10/29/2007 11:55:24 AM

It sounds like the provider who wrote that needs to ditch her agency and be more selective of her clientele, or as OddHat stated, she might consider another career.

I have left these last posts alone because they were so unbelievably negative. There is no doubt in my mind that there are many providers out there that share that particular young ladies views. I also know there are many providers out there who actually enjoy what they do.

All of the hobbyist that think it is not possible to have a "special connection" are seeing the wrong ladies. I have said it more than once "Chemistry is important to having a good session and you only get out of a session what you put into it. Every session is not going to be GREAT. http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=562708&user=386273


When I say or others say connection or chemistry we are not talking about falling in love. I am sure it is much easier for a provider to perform(and it is a performance) with someone they at least like.

    With some of the fucked up attitudes that guys tend to have towards providers . I am surprised that providers don't despise them let alone like them.    If all you require is to "get off" than just use the CL specials $100 for the half hr girls.  Felicity is right about one thing  for sure the board is going in the wrong direction "it seems like the "us vs them" (hobbyists vs providers)posts have become vogue."

I have said this many times......If you treat a lady like a Hooker you will be treated like a John. Its all about common respect and decency. I get PMS all the time and guys ask me why do I have so many good experiences. The answer is simple . I treat women with respect and I do everything I can on my part to make sure the session is an enjoyable experience. You will never hear a provider state that I showed up to an appointment not freshly showered smelling fresh and clean. You would be surprised how many guys show up for appointments after working all day without a shower(sweaty balls are not sexy)

For those of you that think I have delusions of grandeur you are mistaking. I KNOW THIS IS A BUSINESS arrangement. I choose to make my transactions as pleasant and  mutually enjoyable and beneficial for both parties as possible.  

It also very possible to become friends with a provider. Out of the hundreds of ladies I have seen I would call less than 10% of them friends.


Please lets kill the negativity on the board and get back to hobbying .


Christoph
aka
Theycallmehawk

SCREW ABSOLUTE STRANGERS FOR MONEY, ENJOY IT, AND BE MENTALLY HEALTHY.  

Just don't work for an agency and you can SCREW ABSOLUTE STRANGERS FOR MONEY, ENJOY IT, AND BE MENTALLY HEALTHY.

Just see one or two a day and you can SCREW ABSOLUTE STRANGERS FOR MONEY, ENJOY IT, AND BE MENTALLY HEALTHY.

Just have the ability to choose your clientele and you can SCREW ABSOLUTE STRANGERS FOR MONEY, ENJOY IT, AND BE MENTALLY HEALTHY.

It seems to me that your attempts to rationalize and justify give away your discomfort with what you actually do.  The providers that are, to some degree, somewhat sickened by this may be more in touch with reality.  Or, at the least, they accept it, don't try to gussy it up, and keep a part of themselves out of the hobby.

As for the guys that still believe in their connection, its laughable.  I wouldn't care, except you drive up the prices.  

Yes, you are the only one they love, with the  two cars and all.  Time to take the winter ride out of the garage.  Toot Toot.

Yeah, I agree.  we're all here to learn how to get laid better.  We all know that any escort who quits or is getting ready to quit will post a similar rant.  They are merely entertaining reads.

For I am confused -- how does having a 'connection', real or imagined, drive up the price?  With most, if not all, of the provider's ads that I have seen, the 'regulars' (the ones with the 'connection' you mock), usually get better rates.

Your attitude absolutely SUCKS -- did you just write that monthly alimony check or what?  While agency girls may see total strangers, independents who do any sort of screening know more about you than the average blind date or bar pickup.  The only difference between hobbying and online dating  is that money is exchanged.  It's OK to be morally conflicted about that, but please don't lash out at those who are more sure of themselves.  And Heaven Forbid that anyone should enjoy having sex (and getting paid)!  

By the way, I have a 'connection' with a provider, but it isn't love or even a crush -- we're just friends, and if we lived near each other, we'd probably be drinking/hanging out buddies, but not romantically involved.  We've shared stuff with each other that neither of us would tell another client or provider, but it's stuff you'd tell a confidante, a friend.  And it will never go further (frankly, I've already forgotten -- that's what liquor is for, right? )

As for the provider in the link, she obviously needs a change of career, even though she makes several good points on what should be common courtesy (which, like common sense, isn't as common as it should be).  I've heard similar rants from strippers (both online and in person) regarding cleanliness and so on -- men are generally pigs (oink, oink).  Everyone needs to blow steam now and again, but if she feels that overused, she should find something she LIKES and WANTS to do instead, and get a 'normal' job like the rest of us.  Money isn't everything (although it sure comes in handy!).

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Well spoken
like the champ you are.

I mean
what you say has alot of truth.

Spoken like a good man.  Love what you do and the money shall follow.

The whip of sex is a powerful thing.  It'll make you smack ya mama and move in with a TOTAL STRANGER.

Huh?

Do you really believe that?

Huh?

Huh?

I didn't think it possible, but Felicity just became even hotter in my eyes.

You're wasting your time on this guy, Android.  He'll eventually get tired of hearing himself talk and leave it alone.  In the meantime, he's entitles to his opinion so just let him carry on.  I bet that he is really popular with the ladies.  Based on his concern for rates and us driving the price that providers charge up, he is probably dealing with the lower end providers on craigslist anyway.  $15 will get you $20 that he tries to negotiate rates.  I see nothing wrong with developing friendships with our favorite providers.  It can be taken too far but I enjoy getting to know a little bit about our ladies.

True...true...on that, we can agree.  Did I just say that?

There are as many girls who think they are GFE as there are guys who think they are good lovers in bed.
I hate hooking up with a GFE who treats me like I'm a car in for an oil change.
We're all people, with individual wants & desires.
You get what you give and the connection can make a difference...but let's be honest, it's still a transaction.  But hey, you never know, lot's of happily married couples met at work.

The woman behind this rant compares her service to a fine restaurant.  Sounds like fast food would be a more accurate comparison.

Still I love to be reminded to pay attention to the little things.

What about regulars?
I'm not a stranger with my regular provider.
I enjoy the time we spend together and I give her gifts, to thank her for keeping enough free time in her schedule so that we can get together during the free time in my schedule.

Does anyone have a benchmark to assess mental health?  Or do we all live in glass houses?

Lazer, is that you again?  How much do you really know about the ladies?  You know what they tell you and want you to know.  Friends, huh?  What does your buddies think of provider at the summer cookout?  Your dad welcomes her at thanksgiving with all the other friends that drop by to watch the cowboys?  Oh yeah, when the gang goes out for drinks, you say,  oh, let me call my provider friend to see if she wants to join us?

Keep believing.  Me, I masturbated into Julie today.  It was great.

Maybe I should have added that they both have guaranteed results, but the results may be different...

Here's a quick little comparison:

Hobby: scan online profiles until you find someone in your area that you like.
Online Dating: scan online profiles until you find someone in your area that you like.

H: make contact and set up a time & place to meet
OD: make contact and set up a time & place to meet

H: meet; if you like what you see, make your donation and get laid
OD: meet; if you like what you see, buy dinner/drinks/movie/whatever, and get a kiss goodnight (unless you bought her a LOT of drinks )  Note that several repetitions may be necessary before you actually get laid - YMMV.

Actually, I was wrong -- money changes hands in both Hobbying and Dating, just the person or persons receiving the money are different.  And the expense is probably about the same -- it all depends if you like big payments up front or the installment plan...  

You're not the only cynic with a healthy dose of sarcasm out there...

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I know, I know -- don't feed the trolls...

I guess I was feeling in the mood for a debate -- did you notice that he didn't answer my question?

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....all women are providers.