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Re: Just my observations...
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All of us have our own experiences...

I just often see gents on here complaining about lack of great, quality providers in Columbus and wanted to point out why that might be so.

I'm not from Cleveland but tour here regularly and have always done very well.  The same can't be said for *me* and the gals I talk to when it comes to Columbus.

I noticed that on Ter's top 100 providers list; when you search by city; it's got Cleveland but not Columbus.  
Curious what the city criteria is....

... a state by state option with at least a top 50. Don't know if there would be enough top ladies to fill out that many but I think it would be a nice feature for TER to ad.

I wondered the same thing...    Total# of reviews perhaps?  But Cincinnati isn't listed either...    
 

Posted By: decadentxy
I noticed that on Ter's top 100 providers list; when you search by city; it's got Cleveland but not Columbus.  
 Curious what the city criteria is....

is simple based on avg score a girl has(looks & performance).nothing more or less

Cbus is the pits for hobbiests.  For a greater metro area that has nearly 2 million people it is the pits.  It is DEFINITELY a sellers market here.  Girls that are at best "average" in the looks department wanting 2-3 hundo... its absurd.

The few attractive women that engage want NYC prices... your better off traveling to other places for the hobby

Posted By: wonderbuck
Cbus is the pits for hobbiests.  For a greater metro area that has nearly 2 million people it is the pits.  It is DEFINITELY a sellers market here.  Girls that are at best "average" in the looks department wanting 2-3 hundo... its absurd.  
   
The few attractive women that engage want NYC prices... your better off traveling to other places for the hobby
full disclosure...I haven't actually hobbied in the Columbus area.  Just curious...are you saying 2-3 hundred should get you top local talent given your other experiences?

I've hobbied in Toronto, Ca and Sydney, Au with an occasional MPA over the years.  Outside of the mpas and in both locations, I found the "rate" to be right about $250/hr over the last 6 year spread.  in the mpas, you can sometimes hit a homerun for $200/hr or one pitch..whichever comes first.

I agree...the pool of talent seems small relative to other locales given the population.  But, the prevailing rate doesn't seem overboard to me (between $250-350/hr).  Maybe there's a lot of UTR action?  Not sure...probably won't find out that until we establish ourselves in the area.  

Where else have you been that is a better experience?

I will say this, I haven't seen any of these ladies in person, but based on pics alone, Marylin Maxwell, Eva Loren, Nikki Haven, Tobi Telford (Cincy), Katie Hawn, and many touring providers would fit on a whos who list of absolute hotties any day of the week.  Don't know all their rates...so, your point may be accurate for some of them on that front.   Anyway...just my 2 cents.

The beauty is...no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Hope you find what you're after.  With one or two exceptions, my experiences have all been pretty stellar.

Thanks

Posted By: SecretMe11
Posted By: wonderbuck
Cbus is the pits for hobbiests.  For a greater metro area that has nearly 2 million people it is the pits.  It is DEFINITELY a sellers market here.  Girls that are at best "average" in the looks department wanting 2-3 hundo... its absurd.  
     
 The few attractive women that engage want NYC prices... your better off traveling to other places for the hobby
   
 full disclosure...I haven't actually hobbied in the Columbus area.  Just curious...are you saying 2-3 hundred should get you top local talent given your other experiences?  
   
 I've hobbied in Toronto, Ca and Sydney, Au with an occasional MPA over the years.  Outside of the mpas and in both locations, I found the "rate" to be right about $250/hr over the last 6 year spread.  in the mpas, you can sometimes hit a homerun for $200/hr or one pitch..whichever comes first.  
   
 I agree...the pool of talent seems small relative to other locales given the population.  But, the prevailing rate doesn't seem overboard to me (between $250-350/hr).  Maybe there's a lot of UTR action?  Not sure...probably won't find out that until we establish ourselves in the area.  
   
 Where else have you been that is a better experience?  
   
 I will say this, I haven't seen any of these ladies in person, but based on pics alone, Marylin Maxwell, Eva Loren, Nikki Haven, Tobi Telford (Cincy), Katie Hawn, and many touring providers would fit on a whos who list of absolute hotties any day of the week.  Don't know all their rates...so, your point may be accurate for some of them on that front.   Anyway...just my 2 cents.  
   
 The beauty is...no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Hope you find what you're after.  With one or two exceptions, my experiences have all been pretty stellar.  
   
 Thanks
:)  You cant spend time with any of the ladies you mentioned for anywhere near 250, which validates my point that it is a sellers market in CBus.   All of the ladies you mention are 400-600 for 1 hour... aka NYC city rates.

Last time I checked, Columbus aint NYC :)

Pretty sure the average for high-end ladies in NYC is around $600-$1200/hr.  

In any event, if Marilyn, Nikki, Eva, Kate or myself were overpriced, we would get very little business. Rates are based on what our desired clientele want to pay. It's basic economics, dude.

Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
Pretty sure the average for high-end ladies in NYC is around $600-$1200/hr.  
   
 In any event, if Marilyn, Nikki, Eva, Kate or myself were overpriced, we would get very little business. Rates are based on what our desired clientele want to pay. It's basic economics, dude.
No need to get your panties in a bunch... it is a sellers market her plain and simple.  I know more about economic than you assume I do.  SUPPLY and DEMAND drive prices hence the term its a sellers market....

My panties are nowhere near in a bunch. I'm simply countering your assertion that myself and the other aforementioned ladies are overpriced for our respective locales.  

I don't disagree with you that it's a supply and demand issue. I just don't see what your beef is. If you can only afford $200/hr, then you'll have to stick with those that fall within your price range. Seeing escorts is a luxury, not a need, so you can't expect luxury purchases at bargain bin prices. Just saying.

I recommend you review my list.

A couple more have multi hour rates below $500/hr or don't offer a single hour rate.

They have probably made the biz decision to go for longer dates and are willing to take a lower rate for more time/money overall.  

A couple are...as you say, 400/500 hr or more....

But..I think you can get some pretty high quality providers for under the 400-500 you speak of..you just need to be willing to engage in a longer date

Posted By: SecretMe11
I recommend you review my list.  
   
 A couple more have multi hour rates below $500/hr or don't offer a single hour rate.  
   
 They have probably made the biz decision to go for longer dates and are willing to take a lower rate for more time/money overall.  
   
 A couple are...as you say, 400/500 hr or more....  
   
 But..I think you can get some pretty high quality providers for under the 400-500 you speak of..you just need to be willing to engage in a longer date.  
   
   
 
Look, I don't want to get into a pissing contest.... I have gone to each of the websites the ladies you named have (all of them have websites)  

That is your opinion bro and everyone is entitled to one.  Where there is limited supply of attractive providers they are able to command higher prices.... but in a GMA of Columbus you'd think there would be more talent and there isnt.... those are the facts

Posted By: wonderbuck
Where there is limited supply of attractive providers they are able to command higher prices.... but in a GMA of Columbus you'd think there would be more talent and there isnt.... those are the facts
This is true.

Not a pissing contest....you are reading 'tone' into my message that isn't there.  B/C someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they aren't being respectful or considerate or are trying to start an argument (vs a well-mannered and civil debate).  I merely recommended you review the list I mentioned, and, I acknowledged that some I listed met the criteria you communicated of being at or above the $500/hr mark.  

Posted By: wonderbuck
 
All of the ladies you mention are 400-600 for 1 hour... aka NYC city rates.
For a couple of them, it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of math.  If a provider Has a 2 hr rate of $500, that works out to $250/hr.  Note, this is not an actual rate of any that I listed, merely an example; as you point out, they each have sites and you can read their rates for yourself.  My response to you is that there are very high quality providers that fall under the "NYC" rates you mention or at least exist at the lower end of the NYC rates.  I am not speaking to any other point.

Out of curiosity, I looked at the top 100 (1 and 100) providers for NYC.  #1 is a $2000/hr rate and #100 is $500/hr.   Top quality in CBUS should probably pull the middle tier NYC rate...which is what I'd call the #100...seems about right.  This...is opinion, not fact.  

And...none of the above discounts your other statements of it being a sellers market based on volume of supply, etc.  But, when has it not been a sellers market in this particular industry

Posted By: SecretMe11
Not a pissing contest....you are reading 'tone' into my message that isn't there.  B/C someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they aren't being respectful or considerate or are trying to start an argument (vs a well-mannered and civil debate).  I merely recommended you review the list I mentioned, and, I acknowledged that some I listed met the criteria you communicated of being at or above the $500/hr mark.  
   
Posted By: wonderbuck
 
 All of the ladies you mention are 400-600 for 1 hour... aka NYC city rates.  
 
   
 For a couple of them, it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of math.  If a provider Has a 2 hr rate of $500, that works out to $250/hr.  Note, this is not an actual rate of any that I listed, merely an example; as you point out, they each have sites and you can read their rates for yourself.  My response to you is that there are very high quality providers that fall under the "NYC" rates you mention or at least exist at the lower end of the NYC rates.  I am not speaking to any other point.  
   
 Out of curiosity, I looked at the top 100 (1 and 100) providers for NYC.  #1 is a $2000/hr rate and #100 is $500/hr.   Top quality in CBUS should probably pull the middle tier NYC rate...which is what I'd call the #100...seems about right.  This...is opinion, not fact.    
   
 And...none of the above discounts your other statements of it being a sellers market based on volume of supply, etc.  But, when has it not been a sellers market in this particular industry?  
   
   
   
   
 
In harsh economic times... but thats an entirely different discussion. The comparison is absurd... as a point of comparison... look at the "dregs" backpage.  Compare Columbus vs NYC... no comparison what so ever.

The mid to lower level end of the market in NYC would be top tier talent here... that has been the entire point of my statements.

for that area.

shoot, people in DC complain about that rate and Columbus CANT have same cost of living as DC.

Posted By: wonderbuck
 
   
Posted By: SecretMe11
Posted By: wonderbuck
Cbus is the pits for hobbiests.  For a greater metro area that has nearly 2 million people it is the pits.  It is DEFINITELY a sellers market here.  Girls that are at best "average" in the looks department wanting 2-3 hundo... its absurd.    
       
  The few attractive women that engage want NYC prices... your better off traveling to other places for the hobby
 
     
  full disclosure...I haven't actually hobbied in the Columbus area.  Just curious...are you saying 2-3 hundred should get you top local talent given your other experiences?  
     
  I've hobbied in Toronto, Ca and Sydney, Au with an occasional MPA over the years.  Outside of the mpas and in both locations, I found the "rate" to be right about $250/hr over the last 6 year spread.  in the mpas, you can sometimes hit a homerun for $200/hr or one pitch..whichever comes first.  
     
  I agree...the pool of talent seems small relative to other locales given the population.  But, the prevailing rate doesn't seem overboard to me (between $250-350/hr).  Maybe there's a lot of UTR action?  Not sure...probably won't find out that until we establish ourselves in the area.    
     
  Where else have you been that is a better experience?  
     
  I will say this, I haven't seen any of these ladies in person, but based on pics alone, Marylin Maxwell, Eva Loren, Nikki Haven, Tobi Telford (Cincy), Katie Hawn, and many touring providers would fit on a whos who list of absolute hotties any day of the week.  Don't know all their rates...so, your point may be accurate for some of them on that front.   Anyway...just my 2 cents.  
     
  The beauty is...no one is forcing anyone to do anything. Hope you find what you're after.  With one or two exceptions, my experiences have all been pretty stellar.  
     
  Thanks
   
 :)  You cant spend time with any of the ladies you mentioned for anywhere near 250, which validates my point that it is a sellers market in CBus.   All of the ladies you mention are 400-600 for 1 hour... aka NYC city rates.  
   
 Last time I checked, Columbus aint NYC :)

in retrospect...my apologies for even bringing specific ladies into this. all I intended to state was that I find these ladies extremely alluring for (to me) a very reasonable rate.

My opinion is...charge what you want...what you are comfortable with (which is what you'd do without me anyway :) ).  

we're big boys and can decide if we want to shell it out or not

Posted By: SecretMe11
in retrospect...my apologies for even bringing specific ladies into this. all I intended to state was that I find these ladies extremely alluring for (to me) a very reasonable rate.  
   
 My opinion is...charge what you want...what you are comfortable with (which is what you'd do without me anyway :) ).    
   
 we're big boys and can decide if we want to shell it out or not.  
   
 
Agree;  I bet if you ask any of the ladies mentioned they would tell you they feel busy enough... having see 2 o that list I will say this;  they would command MORE if they were in NYC... my opinion.

I've actually been to Columbus once and have tried a few times to book trips there.

From my own experience and from a few other girls I talk to often - we don't go to Columbus because of sheer economics.  Good hotels are expensive (even compared to DC or NYC hotel rates) and without solid pre-bookings it just doesn't make a lot of good sense.

 
The idea of pre-booking seemed foreign when I've tried to plan a trip there, most of the gentleman I talked with were hesitant to screen (really screen - full name screen.  Not I write a couple of reviews on TER from time to time here's my handle) and wanted to haggle about pricing/services.  I ask $300 an hour.  A rate that I feel is more then fair to the gents and allows me to reach the goals I have for myself.

I think Columbus would see more respectable talent if the guys were a little more kind and welcoming.  Face it, no touring girl wants to spend the money for flights, hotels, etc. if they aren't pretty darn sure they will make that and more back.

Sorry to be so blunt but....

;-)

I actually think Columbus is a good city to tour and go to. I've never had a problem, that and Cleveland. I don't feel as though Cincy is anywhere near Columbus and Cleveland as far as the amount of hobbying that is done, and the price they are willing to pay in those cities versus Cincy. Columbus has some great providers already, and I am sure Cleveland does also, but I do well there.

Posted By: cumaliciouschloe
I've actually been to Columbus once and have tried a few times to book trips there.  
   
 From my own experience and from a few other girls I talk to often - we don't go to Columbus because of sheer economics.  Good hotels are expensive (even compared to DC or NYC hotel rates) and without solid pre-bookings it just doesn't make a lot of good sense.  
   
   
 The idea of pre-booking seemed foreign when I've tried to plan a trip there, most of the gentleman I talked with were hesitant to screen (really screen - full name screen.  Not I write a couple of reviews on TER from time to time here's my handle) and wanted to haggle about pricing/services.  I ask $300 an hour.  A rate that I feel is more then fair to the gents and allows me to reach the goals I have for myself.  
   
 I think Columbus would see more respectable talent if the guys were a little more kind and welcoming.  Face it, no touring girl wants to spend the money for flights, hotels, etc. if they aren't pretty darn sure they will make that and more back.  
   
 Sorry to be so blunt but....  
   
 ;-)

All of us have our own experiences...

I just often see gents on here complaining about lack of great, quality providers in Columbus and wanted to point out why that might be so.

I'm not from Cleveland but tour here regularly and have always done very well.  The same can't be said for *me* and the gals I talk to when it comes to Columbus.

yeah I have heard that. I guess it all depends on what the guy is seeking...who knows. I like Cleveland, but it's just so far to make it just a few day trip.

Posted By: cumaliciouschloe
All of us have our own experiences...  
   
 I just often see gents on here complaining about lack of great, quality providers in Columbus and wanted to point out why that might be so.  
   
 I'm not from Cleveland but tour here regularly and have always done very well.  The same can't be said for *me* and the gals I talk to when it comes to Columbus.

........I'm seeing lots charging 300hr and way up. I have been doing my own research (I'm thinking of a work-vacay) and I found the majority were AT LEAST 250hr. I've been talking to a few locla AU providers recently.

Beerformyhorses742 reads

A provider needs a mimnimum of 20 reviews to make the list. There are only 20 providers with 20 or more reviews in Cincy and about 60 in C-bus

Pretty easy to make your own top list anyway. Simoly search and set to "sort by rating" and minimum number of reviews "20"

The problem with the top lists anyway is that it leaves out a lot of great ladies who have less than 20 reviews and it includes many ladies no longer in the business. The lists are pretty useless. You are better off searching using your preferred parameters.

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