What is an "unreasonable" rate?  
I apologize in advance if this has been asked before...
I have encountered several gentlemen who have inquired about my services only to balk at my rates because they are "too high". Then I do further research on them and see that they are seeing providers at $50/60/75 hhr.  
Why make this your "hobby" if you won't pay for quality? I don't want to seem judgemental of providers who employ similar rates but, come on. $50? Is it safe to assume that I shouldn't even want to see a suitor who pays these rates? Is it safe to assume that providers who charges these types of rates are usually drug addicted? Give a newbie some insight, please?

The best insight I can give you is to not pull a NCNS on someone who *is* willing to pay your current rates. That aside it depends on what type of provider you're looking to be. Based on an recent thread in the "General" forum I'd say the guys who aren't willing to pay your rates (which aren't that extravagant TBH) are who you should consider time wasters. If you develop a reputation for yourself as a good provider offering a worthwhile service you won't have to worry about those guys and what they want to pay. If, however, you're finding that clients are consistently not willing to pay your prices, especially after having seen you already, then perhaps something else might be wrong.

Oh, and you might want to consider getting a new phone number. You might be disturbed to find out what insights someone can get on you, rather easily, with your current one.

This is all friendly advice.

...and guys unwilling to pay your rate are guys you are probably better off not seeing. If you are generating enough income and seeing enough guys at your current price level there isn't much reason to adjust your rates. However if you want to expand your customer base a rate adjustment might be in order, only you can decide what value you put on your time and services.

What's unreasonable is what the market WONT support! I've seen women that market 100, 160 and I've told them they are under-priced. I can't believe some that offer 60, 80, 100 but I don't have first hand knowledge, maybe that's what they can get.  
For service and photo that IS what is advertised, I would think 160 to 200 is minimum , but that does not account for quality of experience. the market bears that out over time.

I looked at your profile and website and assuming that you are the hottie in the pics. and your incall is not a dump, the rates look quite reasonable I would keep them! If you are trying to gain more clients you could try adding some more photos, loosening your reference requirements, and maybe drop the 90 min. requirement for first visits (although I personally kinda like that). Just a few suggestions.

I completely disagree with most of D's advice. There is never a reason to loosen your screening requirements. Don't ever sacrifice your safety for money. My screening is extremely stringent. Also, it is your choice, but the 90 minute minimum is a great idea. I don't even offer an hour.

Your site is good and your photos are good. Your rates are not ridiculous. The issue is you're just new and it takes time to build up business. I would at some point, once you really get going, upgrade your site to the ad free, pro site and get some really great pro photos.  

Don't see gentleman that aren't willing to pay your rate. You aren't missing a thing but a headache! Don't ever let anyone tell you what to charge. YOU charge whatever you are comfortable with. Just do a great job, get a few more great reviews under your belt and you'll see a huge influx. Actually, your advantage is you're new, and guys are always leery at first, of course, but everyone's eyeing the new girl : )

Here's a few tips I can offer...you can decide if you are comfortable with taking my advice or not. First, file a "problem report" with TER on your provider profile and get every single "Don't know" answered. If guys are looking on your profile and have no clue what you do or don't, lots of times, they won't ask, you'll just get skipped over.

Second, sign up for the screening service Verify Him. Don't see blacklisted men that can't behave. STAY SAFE!

I don't know if you do, but if I were you, I wouldn't advertise on backpage. You will not get many guys from backpage, no matter how hot and good you are, that won't haggle your rates. Most backpage tricks want 15 and even 30 minute visits, and most of these guys aren't at all concerned with superior quality, they are more concerned with rates. They typically just want super cheap, fast, and little screening. Your rates are not high per say, but they are in comparison to typical backpage rates.

GUYS THAT USE BP, before you jump my shit over my BP comments, I said "most", so I'm not lumping you all together, and I'm in no way condemning the way you choose to hobby. I realize not everyone wants to spend over a certain threshold amount. That's perfectly okay, but it won't work for the OP at her rates. I'm also in no way putting down the lower priced ladies. They choose to charge what they are comfortable with, and I'm sure some quite good at what they do. But let's face it guys, a lady on BP that charges over $200/hr., no matter how hot gets a SLEW of emails everyday asking if her vagina is lined with gold and how dare she charge that much, blah, blah, blah.

I started out 16 months ago in a very similar manner so I've gone through all of this as well. I'm happy to help, email me anytime!

per se is Latin and basically means in itself. Per say is just American gibberish.  Now..............

But I agree with your analysis overall.  I will add to the assessment that Providers in metropolitan areas should generally avoid BP and screen ALWAYS.  

LE has frequently used BP to run stings in the major cities and the BP clientele are the hobby equivalent of fast food customers.  They want beef at $3.  Which is perfectly fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, REAL GOOD beef cost a lot more and is well worth it    

I would have used a fish analogy but in this context it would not be appropriate.  Because fish and women's private parts are frequently the ....................anyway I think you all get the point.

RT

As I said above, 160 to 200 was a minimum, not including quality of service. After Ms. Kole's comments I would add: 500 is fine if as I said above, you ARE as you advertise. There is no set value for quality. I've paid 500 and felt it was a steal! There is the Rule of Deminishing Returns, so be aware it is still a market of limited customers, but I agree with AK if you have the cred to back it up. As she said, get some reviews and don't settle. As for what you offer, yes get it stated, but then stick to it. We (some of us) appreciate a woman with limits. You should respect yourself enough to have limits. Be who you are.
Offer quality, and quality is worth a price

I was not suggesting that she sacrifice her safety for money! Alex, you are listed as newbie friendly on P411 and have screening options that do not require references. Being more newbie friendly (without compromising her safety) would expand her range of potential clients. That is all I was trying to say. The photos she has are great,  I just suggest adding a few more, at least a couple ass shots.

Couple of notes, though.

If you want to compete at the level you're at.. you need to consider a website that is yours and doesn't have the "escortfiles" attachment to it.  You can get a template based site with a domain name that you own for a reasonable rate.

It is ROUGH just starting out in Ohio.  I have a long standing reputation in Texas, but it has been pulling teeth for me since moving to Cincinnati.   It has been very slow going... and I've experienced the same as you with the rate complaints-- including some lovely gents who have gone through the entire screening process just to lowball offer me then be offended when I decline.

Sue me, RT. Apple iPad auto-correct...

Dude, you said "loosen" your screening requirements. That implies giving someone a pass, which absolutely would compromise safety.

I indeed have 1 screening option that doesn't require references, but it does require employment information and a government photo ID, so that's far MORE stringent than just asking for the word of a reference...

I've learned that references only go so far...that's not a guarantee to be seen with me. As what one lady feels is "okay", I certainly may not.  

Did you ever take into consideration I may see only 1 out of every 10 requests, even with ALL of my required submission information? I choose carefully. She shouldn't open herself up to newbies, or doing anything else, period, unless she's okay with it.  

I said "loosen your reference requirements" not screening requirements

show me your government photo ID if I asked for it?  

the bigger question is this...

how do I show you my government photo ID before we meet in person?

... you're saying that references are worthless. Am I reading that right?

I have at least 5 ladies who are my references and I have seen me multiple times, but it sounds like you would not trust the "word" of a reference.

All 5 ladies are highly reviewed in TER and have been in the business far longer than you have.

By the way... yea, I am also whitelisted as well. That doesn't count either?
 

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Honey your rates are just fine. Some of it has to do with where you are. Dayton doesn't see the high end, or more upscale ladies as much because of how small they are compared to Cincinnati or Columbus, and so that is why you are getting the rates for hhr. I by no means would take them, and I haven't myself. The other problem is the constant stings, and people getting set up both provider and clients. There seems to be a big drug issue, along with the Human Trafficking, and they seem to think it's one in the same.

I have guys tell me I am too expensive, and I tell them good luck. There is someone out there for everyone, but you also get what you pay for. With my rep, and my experience, along with my very upscale Incall, I am able to do that. I have had a steady clientele since I started, and you will too before long hun.

As some have mentioned get a professional site done, and also had a variety of professional photos.

Yes you are new, but overtime men will see the reviews, and start realizing you are safe.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

FYI, references are a part of the screening process...

Here we go with this dumb ass shit...

First, I offer screening methods that DON'T require government ID, but if you choose that option with me, that's how it's going to go down, or move your ass along.

Secondly, I'm smart enough to incorporate a space to upload it onto my reservation form. Pretty crafty of me, huh?!

No, you don't get to see my ID. You know why? My risk is with YOU, not me. I have a documented upstanding reputation viewable for anyone to see online to verify my authenticity. I have a professionally maintained website with sexually explicit reviews tied to publicly nude photos of me. You are a man that I may not walk out of the room alive after seeing. You don't have an online verifiable rep, a website, reviews or photos out there. When you do, you can share in my risk and see my ID, how's that?!

It's pretty simple. Don't like my rules, that's fine. Get to stepping. There's plenty that can't get the ID out of their wallet fast enough. -- Modified on 6/1/2015 1:13:57 PM

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I never said references are worthless. But they only go so far.

For example, you're blacklisted to hell and back, but have references and whitelists. That doesn't make me feel any better about using references or whitelists, does it?! Proves my point.

You harass Tobi like I've never seen anyone do on the boards, yet you've never met her. Based on your behavior I've simply observed myself, what would a date with you be like? Again, there goes the word of your references and whitelists right out the window.

Again, maybe they are okay with you, but I wouldn't be. So references are only a small part of my total screening process. It never guarantees me ANYTHING. I've been abused by guys that were white listed and had references.

How do I know who your references are and if they are highly reviewed? You use an alias. FYI, I don't accept BP only references.

And what does being in the business longer than I've been have to do with anything? I've been wildly successful in the short time I've been doing this. Your point on that would be?

Dumb ass shit? that's your opinion.

So, let me get this straight...

What you're saying is that ALL of the risk lies with the provider and the hobbyist carries ZERO risk? That's a dumb ass statement you made.  

When I am partaking in this business, I am taking HUGE risks with my job, family and friends. yea, I know you do, too, but never make the assumption that us hobbyists don't take risks in this kind of business.

Just because you have a website does NOT qualify you to see my ID. That's full of bullshit. There's no logic to that at all.

You claim to have "documented" reputation... documented by who? you? does that mean that all of us have take YOUR word for it? that doesn't fly at all.  
you say that you have reviews on your website... so what? I only focus on the reviews that are found on TER, not your website.

you are a woman that I may not walk out of the room alive after seeing.
 

Actually, I didn't think I'd have to explain this to you, but I specifically used "whoa" because you're being a crybaby!!!

Why in quotes? Who are you quoting? I never said that.

Is that why no one ever likes your posts and no one ever comes to your defense? In fact, they tell you what an idiot you are too.

Don't go away mad, just go away.