Regarding a new review on one of Ohio's bigger cities.  A vocal minority may disagree, but I'm sure the most important thing for the grand majority of both the ladies and the guys is playing SAFE.   Providing BBFS endangers us all for what should be obvious reasons.

Be aware, you'll immediately land on my never see list if I hear of you providing this service.  Ladies, we expect you to police yourselves and not see, or give in to, guys who ask for this service.  And also pressure your colleagues to not do this.  This is how STD clusters happen.  And none of us need that.

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Saw the review from Cincy, first review for provider and reviewer.  Thanks for the heads up.  BBFS has no place in the hobby.  Glad he called it out so others can stay away and be safe.  

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The review has been revised and the sentence about bbfs has been deleted,

The review has been revised and the bbfs reference has been deleted

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If you give or allow BBBJ and agree with this, you’re a hypocrite.  

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My comment is not a flame. It’s fact.

I am SO sick if the blatent IGNORANCE.  The very idea that you actually think condoms are "SAFE SEX"  shows just how stupid you really are!

The following sexually transmitted diseases can EASILY be contracted with PROPER condom use.

1) HPV
2)  HERPES... thats right, this incurable nasty one doesnt care if you use a condom
3) Sypilis
4) Crabs
5) Molluscum contagiosum

Hetrosexual men who are not shooting up have a VERY low probability of becoming infected when engaging in sex with a strictly hetrosexual female who isnt shooting up.   READ the CDC data and engage your BRAIN.

I am NOT saying dont use a condom I am saying read the FACTS and know what the heck you are doing and realize ALL of the risks.  Condoms can and DO break.  

Despite dude's unnecessary shouting, I have to concede it's a valid critique of my phrasing.  I'm fully aware of all the STI's that condoms do _not_ protect against.  I used imprecise verbal shorthand when I used the word SAFE and should've said something like "The grand majority of us want to minimize risk and play SAFER (or as safe as possible) with the use of condoms and most of us understand that no activity in the hobby is without some risk."

My rant against BBFS as radically more risky than more or less standard GFE stands.  That said, I think we should shut down this thread.   The review that triggered my OP was taken down and was possibly untrue in the first place and I won't be responding to this thread further...

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Its a mistake in mentality.  Trust me if you get Herpes and you used a condom I can assure you, you wont hold the view you toute right now...

Whast is it you think you are being "safer" about? Gonorrhea ?   HIV?

I still maintain that most people with your rant are largely misinformed on the facts as provided by the Data compiled by the CDC.

Largely this BBFS argument is centered around the HIV issue.   According to the CDC 23% of the new cases of HIV infection, identified as hetrosexual.   8600 (out of a population of 326,000,000) or .00263% of the population or better understood as 8.6 people  per every 100,000 people.

Some percentage of those people reporting as hetrosexual are men who are lying about either being Bisexual or Homosexual.  

Furthermore, the data tells us that 1,023 were white women.  This is the broad category and it INCLUDED those women who are drug addicts shooting up.  That figure is best understood as 1.23 per 100,000 people.

Research shows that circumsized men have a reduced risk of contracting HIV by about 60%

The cold hard REALITY is that  a provider that is not shooting up drugs, happens to be white engaging in BBFS with a white male who is circumsized has an exceptionally LOW risk of the man becoming infected EVEN IF THE WOMAN IS INFECTED.

As a man you are at a FAR greater risk of catching the clap than you are HIV (along with a whole host of other STI)

I just get really pissed when people get on this supposed moral high ground regarding condoms when the DATA does NOT support at all the postition they are trying to advocate.  Beyond all of that, is the FACT that condoms CAN AND DO BREAK.   It is sheer folly to beleive that you cant catch anything if a condom breaks and you stop  and put another one on....

Based upon what?

If you happen to believe that a condom prevents any STI's you are SADLY and DEEPLY mistaken

And we've got BBFS popping up in Columbus.

Play it safe fellas.

Condoms merely reduce the risk of certian STI's and does nothing for others.  The idea that a condom is playing safe is a LIE

I've read this series of rants and can't figure out if you're arguing for abstinance or that BBFS is perfectly fine in the prostitution game.

Either way, you seem like a rather weird guy who probably doesn't belong here.

& also men need to stop asking for this. two way street on all ends. Men, we expect you to police yourselves up as well. I'm sure there's more men who actually ask for BB than women who actually offer it. Don't flatter yourselves into thinking all women do offer BB.