A question for all you vets out there...when contacting a provider for the first time, do you give your real name or your alias? Presumably you'd have to give your real name right? So that the lady could do her verifying? I dont see any way around this but just wanted to know how the more experienced gentleman would contact a lady and give info? (no way in hell am i filling out a form, i'll stick to sending emails)

Do not ever give out your last name, personal phone, employment information, invite a provider to your house or share other personal information.

...with P411?

Totally up to you what you're comfortable sharing, but I (and many other ladies) would never open the door to someone without knowing exactly who is on the other side.  

If a lady requires your first name and you want to see her give it to her.  Most likely you've done your research on her.  If not, you need to.  Fill out her form or send her an email with the information she requires to screen you.  If you can, get a hobby phone that you use just for the hobby.  If she doesn't get what she requires then most likely you won't be meeting her any time soon.

information they need to keep them safe. I and no one else argues with that.

Even when I was a newb with no reviews and no white list refs. As was mentioned some ladies won't see you if you don't give them the screening info they want.  However, other providers will see you without you giving up your real name. It all about you and the provider being comfortable with each other before the session.  Only you can decide what info to supply.  
 

I understand the ladies wanting it . . .  

That someone who is well reviewed and makes a profession out of this would risk it over a watch and iPad she could buy on her own. You sound like a hypochondriac.

that don't even pass the smell test.  Don't believe every rumor you hear, and when you do hear things, give it some critical thought to see if it seems plausible.  In my (very experienced) opinion, P411 is light years better than Date-check.

You draw your own limits just like women will draw theirs.  

Fine if that is what you think. The truth is supply is unlimited and demand is limited. "This is the way it has always been" might be for you but not with everyone else. I don't get all bent out of shape over one, two or several providers that might not want to see me. Like I said above, I just look for someone who does.  

There are not many established girls who are going to see someone without references AND without personal info.  It's for our own safety, and it's just a part of being a newbie.

Dude, your points and arguments are all over the place.

Come on, how many other people are named Steve in the world?! Your photo is not out there advertising an illegal service to thousands. There's no need to protect something so trivial. Use your real first name, please. It's insulting that you wouldn't trust us with such a small thing. My name is fake so family can't look up my profile and come across photos of me half naked advertising sex for $. Your name is shared with me privately, and it is an intimate thing...

Many thanks to you all for the insight, I suppose the best course of action would be to get a dc/411 and go from there

The girl this guy was talking about has six reveiews between June 2013 & Jan 2014. I hardly call that "WELL" reviewed.

To you and the OP, this is about thinking short term and long term.  

Hi Natashalynme,   Why is P411 better than Datecheck?
 

..."well reviewed" but one other thing to consider along with those 6 reviews is who are the reviewers. If there are two or more veteran reviewers (especially if I have already determined I can trust their reviews) I would consider that "well reviewed".

...he would expect you to call him by that false name and wouldn't have an issue with it when you did.  

To summarize a little so that you are clear on your options...
1. You may have to give a lot of information, including real name and workplace, to make a PARTICULAR provider comfortable with seeing you. This is especially when we're just starting out, but some providers may still require a lot even when we become established. I haven't encountered that lately but I'm sure that exists.
2. Most providers will be comfortable using verification services such as P411/DC, along with provider references and your TER identity, to verify you. The reality is that after a hobbyist gets a few reviews under his belt and a few solid provider references, there would be plenty of providers willing to see him with less than perfect info about him.

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great advice and thanks, yea i have always used a burner and side email for my fun and seems like a smart precaution for this as well  

If you can be verified my a reputable provider, or not?

and u rarely have a problem w a client ripping me off, hurting me, pissing me off, etc.
Men w successful careers are rarely hesitant to provide screening/validating info to prove such.
However, those with bad intentions whether it he by over staying, shorting her money, hurting her, being a dick, serial killer, etc are the ones with something to hide. Don't be that guy.  
Acting shady leaves us with the impression you have more to hide than a successful career and wife.
It all depends on how you hunt. Shoot low and you may shoot yourself in the foot.
Be mindful of whom you see and whom you provide with your personal info

There are lots of reasons I prefer P411....

Have to agree with you on this one. When gents do not have provider references, or are not members of P411/date-check, I do require REAL first/last name, e-mail (work and home), phone #, and work info...most have no problem providing this information, and I have never had a problem with any of those guys. The ones who only want to provide a first name (which is many times not their real first name), and no other info, are usually the one's who turn out to be a problem.