I am a complete newbie to this and have some concerns. Is it safer to go through an agency vs an independent provider? Any advise out there will be appreciated.

over the years. I just searched using the search feature and phrase independents vs agency and it gave me ton of results.

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Agencies are like delivery pizza. If you've got the urge and you want someone NOW, they're a good bet. They're generally reliable, but expect possible upselling and girls who are in a rush and book early in the night. Not 10pm. Try 6 or 7. Otherwise you may be the third gentleman they've entertained that night and they might be a little burned out.

Agencies could be under surveillance however. And personally, the fewer people who come between or who are aware of your sex life, the better. That person behind the phone knows, her driver knows, you're on her phone records and the agency's, they also keep records(to what degree who knows)..

If you plan out and look for someone on here who has a few reviews and is low-volume, you're going to have a good time. While those girls with a lot of good reviews are also equally guaranteed of a good time, they tend to be noticed. I'd worry about their incall traffic and that sort of thing.

Basically, TER is a great resource. Do a little research, be prepared for a good chunk of screening, since you're new, and bring a small gift. (I like candles, flowers and trinkets.) You'll be set on your way.

Thanks for your help...

Perhaps you might want to gain some experience yourself before giving out advice?

Most agency girls would be thrilled if they were entertaining 3 guys in a day. Usually, the number is lot more. And I have called agencies as late as close to midnight and have fucked girls at 1:00 AM in the morning in my heydays of hobbying. I have been rushed out by independents and have spent relaxed time with agency girls. So that depends entirely on the situation..I agree that Agencies do keep records, but my experience shows that so do independents. I contacted a DC area provider in late 2009 after 5 yrs and she knew exactly who I was, what I looked like and what my preferences were. I was floored. Once you get behind the closed doors, you have lost much of control over the privacy.. That's why I never give out my real name....There are no guarantees. Just your chance or probability of having good time with a reputable provider is high over unreviewed or unknown provider. There have been plenty of providers who were well reviewed but have disappointed me.Probably a highlight of your advice....NOT !!!!  No one should ever be expected to gift. Gifts are fine...But they are added bonus. If someone brings in wine and flowers and chocolates...FINE !!!  What one should be expected to bring is full donation, and not shortchange the girl.



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Not every agency is the same, and not independent is the same.

You are probably better off doing this:

1.  Narrow down your search to a few names or agencies.

2.  Go to the TER regional board that services your area.

3.  Start researching who the most active posters are.

4.  Ask questions on the board or via PM about certain girls and their experiences.

That's really the best way of finding out information.  But remember that you are the newbie here, so phrase your questions in such a way that you aren't coming across as being an information suck.

Good luck.

As for as info. goes, most agencies are usually the ones with the "list" so I would join p411 first, before you proceed.

Regardless of whether you decide to go thru an agency or an independent, you have to do the research.  You can search anywhere, but when you have selected some ladies you'd like to see, look for reviews.  If there are none anywhere (this is not the only review site, just the largest), move on.  Verify the pics, check the phone number.

Preferred411 is good at working with you to verify your legitimacy, and also allows the providers to indicate if they are newbie friendly.  That is a good place to start as is this site.  You want to look for providers with at least 5-10 reviews by reviewers that have at least the same number of reviews they have written.

As previously mentioned, agency girls tend to be higher volume per day than most independents.  That's why I personally stay away from them for the most part.  OTOH, agency's screening may be lighter than independents, who knows?

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I used to work for an agency and was entirely put off by management because they're looking at quantity, not quality. Not the repeats over time but how many they can squeeze out of you that day. while that hour you have may seem relaxed, the agency will call on the dot and every three minutes afterwards because they consider that stealing time and therefor money from them.Everybody keeps some sort of record. Has any single indie provider had as much of a fallout from a client list than The Emperors Club? Do you want to be client number 9?I suggest a small token because, hey, it's nice and it shows the provider that you're thoughtful and a gentleman. At this point you're just arguing with me for kicks.

If he means safety in reference to getting the most for his money and not getting burned that way, i.e. finding a girl that will be a good match for him sexually/personally, then it really does come down to reviews and research, bc and pm's.

But if he meant safety from LE, and thats how I took it, there is no doubt in my mind an indy is FAR safer than an agency, on average. Of course that deosnt mean EVERY indy is safer as some dont screen, some are loose with their info, etc. but it's agencies that have more people involved which = more people with potential axes to grind, tip offs to LE, etc. Its the agencies client lists that make it into the public with very notable cases in DC and Arizona and a very close call in Miami two years ago.

If you are even remotely LE phobic, I have two words for you re: agencies. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

does anyone know roughly what the typical volume is for an good agency girl? someone above said 3 clients per day. it seems heavenly high for me and any girl will exhaust quickly

... was at the time of that post and is LE. As I haven't done this before and I understand there are risks involved. The advice I have received has been helpful as far as checking reviews.
 Another concern is giving away my personal and professional information. Being a newb I have no references established. I have seen in reviews that some providers welcome newbies. I do understand that this is a way for providers to screen and is for their safety.
 So I guess my next question, is it best just to create an account with a site such as p411? Does this or will this help with the screening process?