Or more specifically, the stuff inside it...

I'm very uncomfortable counting the cash in front of my client, but I want to know it's right before we start (I had a very uncomfortable experience where I didn't count the money until I was in the elevator on my way home...he shorted me, and I had to go back for the rest).
I've heard providers say to count it when he's in the bathroom, but I do almost exclusively outcalls and the gentleman's bathroom business is done before I get there.
I guess I could ask him to leave it in his bathroom and I could retreat there and count it...I guess I just answered my question...but If he forgets to put the envelope in the bathroom I'll have to ask him about it, and count it in front of him...
The business side just makes me so uncomfortable!  Not so long ago I was doing this for free, after all...I guess I'll get used to it eventually?

How do other women handle the money part of an encounter in a gentle and polite yet firm manner?  
And for the men:  How would you prefer your lady-de jour deal with the "business"?

Thanks!

Actually, my Favorite ladies, don't do the donation until after the session but that is old school & requires more trust.  They risk a "runner" but less risk of LE.

OK, lets discuss modern girls.  The exchange takes place prior to the main event.  Surely, you could excuse yourself to the bathroom for just a moment to verify the donation.  Many ladies, put the donation in a secure place so it doesn't disappear before the departure of whom ever is leaving.  

Often the bathroom door is never fully closed & some banter continues.  When a half naked bombshell emerges, says softly "did you miss me" & proceeds to DFK...

Note to gents:  If lady is coming to you, have soap & hand towel available...
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I specifically ask all my outcall gents (who are always in hotels) to leave my donation in the bathroom.

After I arrive and spend a few minutes saying hello, it's natural next step for me to excuse myself to slip into something more memorable.

While I'm there I check the envelope, tuck it away, and return to the Main Event, secure and happy in knowing that everything is just as it should be.

No fuss, no muss.

Count it by having him spread the money out, not in a pile when you get there, you don't even have to touch it that way.

they have counted it in front of me.

To tell you the truth, I didn't mind it a bit and furthermore, it made me feel a bit relieved because now we both know that there is no funny business and that is out of the way.

Most of the providers I've seen are super subtle.

I place the envelope in a conspicuous location.  We then chat and such and next time I look at the location, hey, that envelope is gone.

I've never shorted anyone and I've never had the provider claim I've shorted her.  On the other hand, I've paid for more than 1 hour and after the hour is up and the provider went into the bathroom to "clean up" (read: count), saw that I offered more, would come back and go for MSOGs.  Those got good reviews.

It may be awkward, it may dull the moment.  But don't forget - it's your business.  There are no chance to send out collection statements after the fact.

You don't have to pull out the adding machine, but you can subtly take out the envelope and quckly count the bills.  Don't be she about it.  Most men should understand.

Yes, for outcalls, have the guy leave the envelope in his bathroom and you could retreat there to freshen up.  If the envelope is not there, say something like, "Honey, did you forget something?  I like to get the business part out of the way first."

You should be paid your going rate and not be ripped off--PERIOD.

I always drop the envelop off on the way in. After the initial lfk and greeting I place it in a conspicuous place so the lady knows it's there.
Most ladies seem to ignore it, I guess I look like an honest guy!!

The vast majority of providers do not want to work that way. That is why envelopes are used in the first place.

That's something I've always wondered about as well.

I used to dance in a strip club and whenever I gave lapdances I would just get the $ after the dances instead of upfront, so that I wouldn't disrupt the mood or momentum. So I figured that would work with my first client, who was already a slight acquaintance. I got lucky that 1st time b/c at the end of our "session" all of the money was accounted for, granted I didn't even count it until I got home because I didn't him to feel like I didn't trust him.

But just 2 nights ago, my 2nd guy totally jipped me. I'd told him my rate was $250 and he handed me the envelope which I discreetly slipped in my purse without counting because I didn't want to seem "rude". Well, later it turned out that it was only $194! And that included us sitting and talking for almost an hour and a half!

When I politely confronted him he claimed that he'd already gone over his max limit for the day because he blew all of his money at the strip club lol. And what could I do? He promised to make up the difference the next time, but when he called to schedule with me again, I declined. I haven't decided if I'll see him again (I feel like he could have mentioned that he didn't have enough $ and I would have easily rescheduled for him).

But, those are the only two experiences I've had thus far and have been brainstorming about strategies.

Maybe you could carry a small purse large enough for the envelope, notify him ahead of time to have it ready for you, and slip it nonchalantly into your purse. Sit and have a chat for a few moments, and then before you've been there too long, excuse yourself to the bathroom, taking your purse with you- which is only natural- women are attached to their purses lol. Then count the money in the bathroom, and Voila!

Or maybe when you arrive, get a feel for him first, and if he seems to be a humorous guy with a fun loving side, then maybe jokingly say something about business before pleasure.

I'll have to experiment, I guess just do what comes natural to you- or what feels less awkward.

What scares me more than not getting paid completely would be the possibility of a LE sting. Which I highly doubt b/c I'm so very careful (at least in my mind haha).

I wonder which would be safer as far as avoiding legal complications.

If it turned out it was a sting and you took the money upfront, then that could get you in trouble- but only if you mention sexual activity right?

If you refuse the money at first, to get it afterwards, then hopefully the cop would halt any progression? But then you run the risk of getting cheated out of $ if you wait til later to count it.

I've completely veered off subject. Didn't mean to post such a long entry either.

Sorry!
(Anyway- hope I was a little help- even though I'm still a bit of a novice lol)


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And you can make your donation instructions clear.
You can also include that on your provider ads.

Put the envelop in your purse and excuse yourself and your purse to the bathroom. Close the door and discretely open the envelop and count the money.

The array of answers has caused me great unrest; I must add!

I wish to have nothing to do with the envelope. If I have put it in a conspicuous place, by all means, pick it up and do with as you please. If you DARE to deal with it in my presence, I will not be calling you again. People are innocent until proven guilty. There will be times when I will excuse myself to the bathroom to wash up(incall). Other times, that very room is always open for your 'enjoyment'. The only time remuneration will be overt is if a tip occurs. I hope that I haven't ruffles any feathers.