I'm awful at this, and clients used to easily run 30-40 mins over because I was such a push over. It still happens every once in a while, but here are some things that helped me:
1) angle the clock and maintain eye contact. Watching them helps your performance, and lets you peak at the clock when they're not paying attention 2) make a playlist. One hour, ninety minute, and two hours, three if you get a lot of those, and longer if you're really into it. Think about the flow of your typical date, and try to match the music. Make it so that the music actually goes off when the list has been played through. How long do you want to stay at the party after the music stops? Not long, lol 3) maintain control. At all times. If you've got 30 mins and are worried he'll go for another round and you both know its not going to happen by the end of his appointment, suggest a massage. Or, rest a moment and suggest a nice shower, folding his clothes while he waits for you to join. Fruit or wine is a great wind down too. These are all things that'll make them happy with the time spent with you, while sticking to your schedule. Also, don't be afraid to "finish him" if he's one of those... 4) and this is for the ones who will smile in your face and tell you you've still got time before your 1:30 at 1:15 (true story), dont be afraid to be busy. Lunch with a friend, class, or another appointment. Most will get the hint once you mention other plans, but if you have to put your hair up and start getting ready to leave, so be it.
I read a long review of how the guy said "He stayed far beyond the time he paid for" and got way more out of the woman than he expected. So I guess that's A great review in the guys eyes, but to me it seems there is a constant battle of guys trying to get over on escorts and get more for less. I don't understand why alot of guys cannot respect the industry for what it is. I've also read reviews where guys have wrote, the women upsale and that is considered to be a bad review because she asked for more money. So why is it considered a great review when they are get over and bad when a woman ask for more money!!
Just wondering why men in this business play all these unneccesary games. I've met alot of guys who are awesome incredible and respectful, even guys I didn't want to leave after our time together because we meshed well, but they respected me as well as my time! It seems as if there is a constant battle to get over and play games smh!!
When you go shopping for shoes, do you want the most for your money or the least? When you go out to eat and the bill is higher than what the menu stated, you bitch to the gal or to management, right? Why? Because in those instances YOU are the customer, the consumer, thats why. It's no different for us mongers. We want as much tail as we can get for as little price. We dont want to be upsold. Thats a fucking ripoff.
You are looking at it as both parties are equals. They aint. The customer, i.e. the john in this biz, should seek to get as much as he can. The hooker should tell him where the boundaries are, like any good "industry" would. If a john is taking advantage of your time and dissing you, kick his ass out. Of course a good business uses tact when delivering piss poor news. Even 5 star restaurants make their best customers leave at some point.
any smart reviewer never mentions OTC..it is always bad business for the lady because everyone who reads the review will expect it..if i receive any OTC..i am always grateful..but that should always be between the client and the provider..it is simply no one else's business..upselling always deserves a bad review..
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board? Not sure if newbies care about staying over; most just want to fu*k & su*k.
Guys need to learn what pisses us off. Train 'em right from the get-go! :
Thanks, I didn't know abt TER until recently! I took a 6 month hiatus
I started a yr ago, stoPPed for 6 months, and recently signed uP for Ter in February and was told to Post on the Newbie board, I didn't know abt Ter when I started sorry!!!
How would uk what anyone wants to read or see? As told many times, I can Post what I want!!!
if a lady is watching the time and setting the pace like she should, all she has to do is start getting dressed.He should get the hint.
He knows how much time he booked.He cant get upset when you go to the door unlock it.lol
Agreed, but then they comPlain about clock watchers it seems that they want to get over, and if they don't then they comPlain, this doesn't go for the guys who are resPectful, I guess there are some who actually enjoy getting over or at least trying to.
He knows how much time he booked.He cant get upset when you go to the door unlock it.lol
If a guy is asked either verbally or with non verbal cues to leave at the appointed time, some will label a lady a clock watcher.
I'm awful at this, and clients used to easily run 30-40 mins over because I was such a push over. It still happens every once in a while, but here are some things that helped me:
1) angle the clock and maintain eye contact. Watching them helps your performance, and lets you peak at the clock when they're not paying attention
2) make a playlist. One hour, ninety minute, and two hours, three if you get a lot of those, and longer if you're really into it. Think about the flow of your typical date, and try to match the music. Make it so that the music actually goes off when the list has been played through. How long do you want to stay at the party after the music stops? Not long, lol
3) maintain control. At all times. If you've got 30 mins and are worried he'll go for another round and you both know its not going to happen by the end of his appointment, suggest a massage. Or, rest a moment and suggest a nice shower, folding his clothes while he waits for you to join. Fruit or wine is a great wind down too. These are all things that'll make them happy with the time spent with you, while sticking to your schedule. Also, don't be afraid to "finish him" if he's one of those...
4) and this is for the ones who will smile in your face and tell you you've still got time before your 1:30 at 1:15 (true story), dont be afraid to be busy. Lunch with a friend, class, or another appointment. Most will get the hint once you mention other plans, but if you have to put your hair up and start getting ready to leave, so be it.
Thanks I love it
You forgot:
5) go take a shit with the bathroom door open.
Second, you are addressing two different issues.
1 - Guys who stay over the allotted time without compensation. Those guys are wrong, and are taking advantage of a lady's generosity. If they choose to stay longer than originally agreed, they should compensate accordingly, unless the lady declines. Either way, it should never be mentioned in a review. That is something between a gentleman and a lady and should be kept that way. The only guys who mention such things are only interested in stroking their own egos. It is bad for business on all sides, as it sets false expectations.
2 - Ladies who upsell are bad for business because they lure guys in for one price then demand more to perform certain acts (not the same as additional compensation for additional time). An example of this would be when a lady shows up and collects her fee, then informs the client that this amount was only to get her there and it will cost more for BJ or FS or whatever. This is nothing but a scam and should be reported in reviews. It is a totally different thing from ladies expecting to be properly compensating for additional time, which should in no way be considered an upsell.
So the games go both ways, and one doesn't make the other right. But it is important to be clear. Asking for more money to cover additional time is perfectly fair and correct, and should not be questioned. On the other hand, asking for more money to perform as agreed within the allotted time is misleading, and wrong. There are, of course exceptions and additional services (like greek) that are sometimes negotiable, but that is a different thing and is not generally considered an upsell. Be clear before calling people out.
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this thread has proven him wrong, as you've gotten some excellent advice. If you're not aware there is a Provider Only board that you can join. Above is the "more" drop down, mouse over it to find the PO board. You may need a little more of "board" presence to get approved, so you'll need to post more often, but the PO board would be an excellent place to get feedback for your questions.
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Thanks they denied me lol said try back in 2 months
This is why I only offer perks to my regulars, because most of them have the common sense to NOT put that in a review, realizing that every joe from the block will expect the same thing, and grade lower if they don't get it. Of course, some guys will always try to get more for less and stupid women to do it for a higher score. I don't need the scores...I need the fkin money!
So many times I have seen this and guys will try however it is up to the lady concerned to have clear boundaries set. People in general will get away with what you allow them to get away with.
Now having said that, the review system is not very fair if a lady does put her pretty foot down. Some guys will use the review system to "pay her back". It is very unfortunate that some unsavory guys have this in their corner, much the same way some guys get thrown up on a black list site for something minor. It is going to happen.
Ladies, I firmly believe the way you carry yourself, with confidence and a no nonsense approach can and most of the time will, give a guy a sense of how far he can push. If you appear to have a small window, and are gentle but firm in your responses, you'll find out things don't get so messy.