With the service of GFE being offered by many providers to include kissing and oral (BBBJ's and especially DATY), what's being done to prevent the spread of STD's and still offer the client a good service that doesn't make him feel like he's prepping for germ warfare? We all understand the need for condoms, but at the same time, doesn't all of this oral action increase the risk of STD's? How do we bridge this delimma?

Any direct sexual contact raises the risk for STDs. Its a personal choice as to how to proceed. For me, I now use a cover for everything. And I don't DATY.

Many of us are here at least partially because we enjoy full GFE, and this is a good place to find what we are looking for.  If we have any sense, we have gone through the calculation that you are making, and we have decided that the enjoyment more than balances out the risks.

Yes, each type of activity carries different types of risks, but I have decided that DFK, BBBJ, and DATY are important enough to me that I am willing to take the risks. I have been at this a long time, and I have never caught so much as a cold. Am I lucky, or am I just evidence of the very low likelihood catching something?

I feel that I protect myself to some extent by sticking to well-reviewed providers who have been at this for a significant period of time. I have not been able to find statistics to back this up, but I honestly believe that I am in no more danger of catching something from a mature, careful provider than from a random civie. I actually believe that my risks are lower, but I have no evidence to justify that belief.

Anyway, this is how my reasoning leads me to be comfortable with my behavior. I would never suggest that anyone stretch beyond their comfort zone. There are plenty of ladies who will be happy to adjust to your wishes regarding safety.

You are presenting anecdotal, subjective evidence which DOES have value, but not as much as objective evidence which will be extremely difficult to come by, the only thing resembling such would be the statistics from places like the CDC in Atlanta. It basically amounts to the same evidence a religious person claims for the existence of God and the power of prayer because he and his church prayed for his cancer to go into remission and it did. I however DO suspect that much of the STD risk stats have been somewhat misrepresented by the groups that espouse heterosexual monogamy as the only acceptible standard of lifestyle.It makes sense that a pro will be safer than a random civie because a pro doesn't live in denial and will be more motivated to get herself regularly checked as her sexual health is essential for her survival. Thanks for your insight and experience, valueable perspective indeed. Now, just what age do you consider "mature" and what do you look for in a provider to satisfy your own peace of mind?

Nobody can come out and tell you what your risks are specifically because that kind of evidence does not exist.  However, I have done a lot of personal research on the subject and have come up with the following conclusions:

DFK, actually any kind of kissing is safe from STDs.  By definition an STD can only be transmitted by sex, oral, anal or vaginal.  Kissing is not sex and therefore cannot transmit any STD.  You could catch a cold, flu or other things.  You could also contract HSV-1 via kissing, but by definition that would not be a STD.  Besides most people already have HSV-1 whether they know about it or not and once you have it, dormant or active, you cannot catch it again (it stays with you for life).

Using a condom is 100% effective for preventing STDs.  Some sites will say otherwise and in general I've found most sites default to the worst possible outcome.  But if you dig behind the scenes you'll find that experts say condoms, used properly are 100%.

Oral sex has a risk although it is tiny.  When I say tiny I'm thinking it is a fraction of 1%.  Again, you'll see otherwise on big sites where they default to scaring you.  But dig behind the scenes and you'll find that realistically, it's almost no risk.  Conceivably you could catch HSV-1 genitally, or perhaps syphilis, or even gonorrhea, but you'd have to be playing with some real high risk people.

Most professional sex providers do not have STDs (especially in the US).  As a group they are very conscious about their sexual heath, are likely to tested frequently and practice safe sex.  I would think this group here, which are higher end more professional are even less likely to have something than a street walker or massage parlor type.

I have to agree, if a pro is allowing you to touch her uncovered, she is more likely to get checked out.  Many STDs can be treated by antibiotics (do a search, you'll find out quickly which ones and which medication, the MAYO clinic is one place, WebMD another) but they also know if they spread it onto a client, the odds of repeat business from said client may end, and its also safe to assume no referrals from the client either...if that matters to them, anyway.

A few girls post, directly on their websites, that they get screened every so often (most seem to be bout 3 months delay).  

And yes, I highly suggest going with a reviewed user (and not just 1 or 2 reviews, okay?) before engaging in full on contact with anyone.  

Lastly, there is the point that a girlfriend you pick up in a bar or off the street that will not charge you for her company, may have a disease more likely than not.  And with those women, they really get offended if you ask them if they get checked!  Like in this day and age we are supposed to expect any woman we take on a date to have been pure and sheltered her whole life?  Yea, right!  

Seriously, if you do not feel comfortable, regardless of reason, regardless of what you may or may not be doing at the time, GTFO.  

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STDs/show/116

good site, but i would say that the thought that there are fewer STD's amongst pro's than civies is unfounded.  Pro's have many, many more random partners than do civies.  That's just my perspective.  Cruise the site, it deals with just about every question.

Nothing in life is 100% safe including careful use of condoms to prevent STDs. Please site your sources for any of these statistical assertions you've made. They don't jibe with any I've read or any medical experts I've ever heard.

"Digging behind the scenes" I believe is another way of saying you're displeased with the standard literature on this topic and you've searched around until you've found some out of the mainstream voice that you're more comfortable hearing.

It's fine and dandy that you've found a way to make yourself psychologically comfortable about the risks associated with this hobby but for others who are looking for substantive answers you need to bring forward real numbers from medical and health professionals. Despite your assertion that you've done "a lot of personal research.." you're minimizing  real risks with sub par information.

Most professional sex providers do not have STDs (especially in the US).  As a group they are very conscious about their sexual heath, are likely to tested frequently and practice safe sex.  I would think this group here, which are higher end more professional are even less likely to have something than a street walker or massage parlor type.


You have no idea what ur talking about. I was a very highly paid escort, I was very professional and popular with the high end clients. I offered GFE and did this work for a couple years. I never did anything stupid or risky and guess what! I contracted herpes! Weird how that happened ,being a professional and all. Another friend of mine contacted chlamydia, and oddly enough, she must have passed it on to her clients while experiencing no symptoms.  Theres no testing for escorts, the agencies are there to make MONEY. Yes even the reputable ones. Cmon if someones got a cold sore it can be transfered to the genitals, imagine the sexworkers who are coming into contact with hundreds of men every month or whatever. I stopped offering GFE because I just couldnt handle the reality that I could catch somthing like that. I didnt have symptoms for almost 5 years. Wake up guys, u go downtown on someone whos had 3-4 men in the last 36 hours do the same, its a statistical impossibility that u wont contract something or infect them witb something. It makes me sick, gonhorrea, chlamydia, herpes and whatever else u can catch is all contagiius via oral sex GFE.
And its not a small risk, many STDs have little or no symptoms. so u may have them now and not know it.
Yep sad really, but true.