OK Butt...so maybe this portion of the hobby aint for you.  The majority of the providers here are GFE, that means DATY, DFK, LFK, BBBJ are very common but that doesn't mean you have to partake.  BUT...true GFE carries a price tag that is higher than a standard "suck and fuck" provider.  No sense in paying for something you won't use so I suggest finding a backpage girl with reviews, you'll more than likely find someone non-GFE at a price more in line with what you want who neither expects nor wants anything more than what you are prepared to offer.

I'll just throw a word of caution into the mix...most of the providers and most of the mongers are in favor of full GFE....that means most of the guys here are into the dates, drinks, DFK, DATY, etc...just be careful about how you characterize what "we" do versus what you want to do with a provider.

and considering that you are servicing a wife and a girl friend, I'd say that you have made a pretty convincing argument that you've already done your part for woman-kind.

This isn't a "mainly GFE" place, but the activities that are generally considered to be part of GFE - DKF, DATY, etc - are activities that the majority of men want included as part of their experience. For most men, their standard of what makes a good session is the opposite of yours. If they see a lady who does not kiss, and does not allow DATY, it generally means he's going to write a mediocre review for her.

But just because DFK and DATY are activities that popular for most men doesn't mean the lady expects or demands those activities. If you don't want to kiss, and don't want to DATY, that is your choice. Simply don't engage in those activities.

One note though, if you expect to go greek on a lady, plan on spending some time arousing her. Fingers, tongue, whatever it takes. She needs to be relaxed and aroused in order to enjoy that particular activity.

Im interested providers for what they can do for me and not what i can do for them in bed. The donation is part of that deal "services rendered". I in no way want to be mean or disrespectful to a provider, i never would be. However, im not going to go DATY after you BBBJ me and im not interested in making any effort to get you off. My idea is to walk in, get a Bj, blow load, get another BJ, and go greek. Then leave. I never see this in a review on this site. Its all about DFK then playing in bed, followed by the guy going DATY because he soooo wants her to gasm. drawn out conversations with providers, and meeting them at a bar for drinks, giggling and joking to eachother, and watching tv in the room. I understand GFE fully but majority of the providers listed are not exclusively GFE. What i dont get is the repeated reviews that sound like they are meeting a woman they might fall in love with instead of a provider.

I dont want to be the jerk that refuses to make a provider aroused or get off but i try hard enough doing that at home with the lady (who doesnt like having sex)and my mistress(who is in training because she is only 20 and a nerd).  I want something easy, that doesnt reciprocate, my entire life revolves around making a woman feel good about herself and sexually pleasuring them . Am i asking for something way out of bounds from the hobby? Im going to be seeing a provider in a week and i have been reading her long list of reviews and every single guy is saying DATY and all this romantic engagement stuff which is really just turning me off. Im just their for my own selfish and deprived sexual pleasures and i dont want to get into an altercation with this provider when i seem cold and impersonal. She isnt exclusively a GFE either.

You need to state before you see a provider you are not looking for GFE. This will be her cue.
But at the same time it is a little selfish to just want to get you off. I mean you can't just jump into greek full force right away. I consider myself very greek friendly but to not get aroused at all and then just shove it in seems like a not fun experience for the provider. However I am stricktly GFE so this is a turn off for me.

My advice to you is to find a non-gfe girl who offers shorter sessions(a cue that she likes them in-and-out...not saying you have to book the 30min session) Your wants seem very in line with the dom/sub type fetish.(maybe you'd like to explore it?)Search around and you'll find the right girl.

Wow, i seriously missed that part of TER. I did not know this is a mainly GFE place otherwise i would not have even thought about making this thread. Now it makes sense why all the reviews i read sound like dates i had in high school and college. Thanks for the info, ill need to message this provider im seeing now and see if she is ok with no-gfe.



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This is a very interesting thread for this newbie.  Being one, I have no fucking idea the way the game is played these days.  When I last hobbied in the early '90s there was no such thing as GFE (or if there was I didn't know about it).  I'd call ahead, walk into an apartment and there'd be several girls there from whom to choose.  You'd go into the room, she'd tell you to undress, then return in a few minutes for the transactional part.  Then the fun would begin.  Most of the girls were nice, fun and sexy, but no LFK or DFK, no fingers inside, CBJ only.  This didn't make it bad, just different, and certainly not GFE.  I'm about to see a GFE provider for the first time tomorrow and I'm really looking forward to a very different experience.  GFE happens to suit me because part of my pleasure is believing I'm giving pleasure to my partner.  I really want to believe that but recognize in some (many?) cases it's going to be an act.  That doesn't bother me as long as it's a good act.  The TER reviews give me hope that, at a minimum, a lot of providers are good actresses.  I've also seen a lot of Backpage ads where the prices are lower, and the services are more like my earlier experience.  So I guess you get to pick and choose.  In this day and age, though, it seems easier to go GFE if you can afford it because it's the GFEs who are well reviewed and I will not expose myself to someone who's not reviewed for obvious reasons.

foreplay.  You can find that on CL or BP but those sites are also prevelent with C & D and ROB's.

Not sure why you need to see a provider if you already have a mistress.

As others have written, you could (and perhaps should) look to BP for this particular type of encounter.  However, you can certainly find that experience with many of the TER ladies.  For my taste I prefer the full GFE experience, but have on occasion looked for (and found successfully) the type of session you discuss seeking.  The difference was that if I wanted to explore more during the session, that option was available to me.  It would cost more $$$ to go this route, but I would not gamble on finding the lady on BP and TOFTT and hope all works out.  Do your searching on TER (and run a post on your local board seeking recommendations for this type of session).

Exactly my point earlier, you can find a range of providers here but why pay for a Cadillac if you only need basic transportation (ie; GFE vs. Suck/fuck)...I happen to like GFE much more but to each his own, by the same token I've done quickie car-dates because time/mood/availability dictated and had a great time, albeit different than what I most enjoy.

I've you take your time and cross reference the BP girls with reviews here you can verify some of them even though they aren't GFE.  By changing the services you aren't necessarily eliminating the ability to find reviews, they're here too.

As someone who does this for intimacy, sex, and an opportunity to explore and delight in the body of a beautiful woman, read the reviews and you will find many ladies who are expert at making you feel like you are the only man, the best man, they have ever had.

So good at it, in fact, that you will find it very easy to suspend your disbelief and think it is more than a fantasy. Well, in fact, I do believe that many of these ladies love this job and are very good at it because they love it, but that does not mean they love me or what I am doing, specifically, any more than any of the other guys they see who make some effort to be presentable and make the pleasure somewhat mutual.

So the real question, once you find that lady who knows how to pull all your strings and give you exactly what you want so smoothly and easily that the OP's complaint seems like it comes from another world - everything you do, and that means exactly what you want to do, delights her - the real question is simply how you are going to remind yourself that over here is fantasy, and over there is reality. Because you will want to stay in the fantasy, to hell with reality.

Me, I will not see any lady more than once every couple of months, that seems to work for now but I really want to break my own rule. So have no fear, there are a whole bunch of wonderful ladies out there. I also dabbled a couple of times a few years ago, and this GFE escort thing is completely different, and wonderful.

Enjoy while it is all shiny and new.

Zig