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caneman1 2233 reads
posted
1 / 24

I'm  sure this question comes up a lot... I get why providers screen.. and I think its smart.  On the same note I'm giving the very information that could ruin me.  I guess my question is have any of you heard horror stories about providers messing with people once they have the information?  Help me feel good about doing this.

JosephineBelle See my TER Reviews 812 reads
posted
2 / 24

Trust me, most of us delete it after we've verified you.
Only give your info to reviewed, reputable providers and you'll be fine.
So long as you don't commit any cardinal sins to get blacklisted (shorting the envelope, not paying, NCNS, etc.), your information is 100% safe with us.

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 847 reads
posted
3 / 24

They have as much to lose, and maybe more, than you do.  Yeah, sure there are bad apples out there, but if you do your research properly, the risk is minimal.

Swim

palomamontecarlo See my TER Reviews 657 reads
posted
4 / 24

We screen for various reasons besides LE, we want to feel comfortable with you and in my case particularly, I stay away from people who I can run into on my private life for the obvious reasons.
Yes, there are bad apples that have ruined it for us, stalking guys, blackmailing them, threatening to out them etc.. The higher end sane providers will more likely have a lot to loose if they engage into this type of behavior (kids, assets, jobs, licenses and much more) because we do have a separate life outside this wonderful world, we go to school, tender to our family, volunteer in the community and some even occupy high ranked positions in the public/private sector etc... My advice to you is to stick to well reviewed providers here on TER who are professional, responsible and discreet. No need to take unnecessary chances with the "hidden gems" that probably don't have much to lose anyway...

Dr Who revived 693 reads
posted
5 / 24

Most however simply want you to give them the screening info...show up and have a good time...and go away with no issues.

However....once you have given any gal your info consider that it will always be available to her.  None (I suspect maybe one or two) destroy that info...they keep it and use it for future contact.  Do NOT believe that any of them don't keep your info...they do.

So long as you're a good boy however the likelihood is you'll just end up in her phone or computer as john # 157 with a phone number and email.  You don't want to give out a real email address as well as many times gals send out mailings that are unsolicited...use a hobby email as well as a hobby phone.  Minimize the risks of getting unwanted solicitations.

You may also want to use a screening service such as P411 and not use a real name...for the same reasons as above.  

No reason to give up any more information than you're comfortable with.
Posted By: caneman1
I'm  sure this question comes up a lot... I get why providers screen.. and I think its smart.  On the same note I'm giving the very information that could ruin me.  I guess my question is have any of you heard horror stories about providers messing with people once they have the information?  Help me feel good about doing this.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 558 reads
posted
6 / 24

...name and telephone number or whatever information you give them.  Once it's there, your name can be Googled and you will be linked to prostitution.  IOW, you're fucked, and not in a good way.  You'll have a tough time explaining how your name got on that list "by mistake."

Others said some providers are "bad apples."  Yes, but there are other providers who are simply "BSC" - Bat Shit Crazy.  They may blacklist you for sneezing, thinking you are giving them the flu.

Avoid BSC providers by doing your homework and only seeing well-reviewed providers.

LunaSilk 577 reads
posted
8 / 24

I've read this whole thread so far and speaking as Im still doing researching let me ask you fellas this - what should I or any other new provider do? do you expect all new girls to risk getting busted/ something horrible happen to us because we have no rep? what is the best way to handle being fresh but still wanting to play it safe?

Deen 807 reads
posted
9 / 24

Yes, I realize that screening must be done for the benefit of both providers and hobbyists.  But I don't follow the logic behind the proposition that screening info disappears.

If providers delete hobbyists' info, what is their strategy for stalkers?  Recurring theme on these pages is hobbyists who start out fine and then turn weird or nasty after a few meets.  Surely any provider who does her own independent screening is saving info in order to handle that scenario?  

And with all respect to providers, it seems to me that even the noblest of intentions can be subverted.  What if some out-of-control hobbyist shows up for a meet with a pocket full of cocaine, and because he's out of control it turns out that he drags the provider into a bust?  Now she's facing serious criminal charges and serious jail time, and maybe deportation or loss of child custody.  Prosecutor turns screws.  Deal is struck.  Out comes the screening book

PhillyAbbey See my TER Reviews 553 reads
posted
10 / 24

I would play it safe from the start.  Slowly build your reputation, know that going in that business might be slow and plan for that.  Why be reckless and risk everything?

Abbey

LunaSilk 556 reads
posted
11 / 24

Posted By: PhillyAbbey
I would play it safe from the start.  Slowly build your reputation, know that going in that business might be slow and plan for that.  Why be reckless and risk everything?  
   
 Abbey
because all the guys in this thread are saying they wont give info to be screened to any new provider because shes not reputable. that leads me to believe new providers are expected to be ok with not screening clients like its some sort of privilege or something. so im asking how does a new provider get info to screen if ur all scared to give info to a newbie?  

sorry if that came rude/defensive im not one to sugar coat things i prefer telling it how i see it

-- Modified on 12/24/2013 6:52:07 AM

harborview 10 Reviews 673 reads
posted
12 / 24

a young MILF I'd seen once, sent me an email, "Who was I & should she keep my email address?"  Clearly she had no other information to connect the dots.  I'd seen her once and had no plans to return & that is what I told her.

PhillyAbbey See my TER Reviews 625 reads
posted
13 / 24

SOME will give information, some won't.  "All the guys in this thread" hardly represents the body of potential clientele.  I am having a hard time understanding why you are lead to believe that new providers are expected to be okay with bypassing the screening process.  No one has mentioned that.  You are responsible for your own safety.  If a potential client does not want to provide you with what you need to feel safe, then thank him and go on your merry way.  

Abbey

Dr Who revived 680 reads
posted
14 / 24

I certainly didn't say that I wouldn't give you or any gal screening info.  I commented that some gals will use that info inappropriately.  And that most gals never destroy the screening info.

My suggestion to the OP was to give up info only to the degree HE is comfortable with.  If YOU need more and any guy isn't willing to give you that...deny seeing that guy.  And the same with a guy...he'll only give up what he's comfortable with.

Many guys use screening services such as RS2K, P411 and DateCheck.  This helps many fellas get through the screening process while giving up only the amount of information they were comfortable with.

Are you a member of any of those screening sites?  If not, you may want to check into them as that seems to work for many of the ladies here.

As others have said, you will need to do what is best for you.  If having a guys social security, license and full panel of head shots before you will see him...that will likely shorten the list of potential dates.  But it's your gig, so if that's what works for you...go for it.  To do no screening is even a less viable option...as at some point that will create unforeseen problems.
Posted By: LunaSilk
 
Posted By: PhillyAbbey
I would play it safe from the start.  Slowly build your reputation, know that going in that business might be slow and plan for that.  Why be reckless and risk everything?  
     
  Abbey
   
 because all the guys in this thread are saying they wont give info to be screened to any new provider because shes not reputable. that leads me to believe new providers are expected to be ok with not screening clients like its some sort of privilege or something. so im asking how does a new provider get info to screen if ur all scared to give info to a newbie?    
   
 sorry if that came rude/defensive im not one to sugar coat things i prefer telling it how i see it  

-- Modified on 12/24/2013 6:52:07 AM

89Springer 545 reads
posted
15 / 24

Just wondering if anyone has had a well-reviewed provider blacklist him for no good reason, i.e. some squabble between provider and the hobbyist or some perceived issue on her part).

I'm getting a little paranoid about providers not returning my emails after I've submitted my info for screening.

GaGambler 681 reads
posted
16 / 24

and abuses happen from even the highest rated providers, I've seen ladies with 9.85 averages go completely ape shit over a 9/9 review, and you can do a message search to see the lengths that some will go to , to get an 8/8 review removed that will knock them out of the top 10.

My advice is to be VERY, VERY careful of what Information you give to even the highest rated provider if you have anything to lose if you end up in a disagreement with her.

JosephineBelle See my TER Reviews 719 reads
posted
17 / 24

No, we're not. Obviously, if we see you again, most of us will remember you and who you are. If I see a client more than once, I save their email to my contacts but as far as saving all your employment info, etc., it goes away when I clean my inbox. But even when I do that, it will stay in Gmail. If something bad happens, I WILL be able to access it. What I'm saying is that there is no little black book, there is no database unless you're running an agency. It's incriminating for us, too, to keep a list of clients.
 

Posted By: Deen
Yes, I realize that screening must be done for the benefit of both providers and hobbyists.  But I don't follow the logic behind the proposition that screening info disappears.  
   
 If providers delete hobbyists' info, what is their strategy for stalkers?  Recurring theme on these pages is hobbyists who start out fine and then turn weird or nasty after a few meets.  Surely any provider who does her own independent screening is saving info in order to handle that scenario?    
   
 And with all respect to providers, it seems to me that even the noblest of intentions can be subverted.  What if some out-of-control hobbyist shows up for a meet with a pocket full of cocaine, and because he's out of control it turns out that he drags the provider into a bust?  Now she's facing serious criminal charges and serious jail time, and maybe deportation or loss of child custody.  Prosecutor turns screws.  Deal is struck.  Out comes the screening book.  
   
   
   
 

LunaSilk 502 reads
posted
18 / 24

I doubt providers do this however i have read blacklist boards tho and some list ur contact info (what little they got) and list that your not willing to be screened if you put up enuf resistance and piss them off. but me personally i wouldn't list someone as someone no one else no one should see. if i provider doesnt get back to you id just chalk it up to something like there was something she saw didnt like and decided not to see you . you seem like a polite responsible guy so i dont think u have anything to worry about

89Springer 604 reads
posted
19 / 24

you seem like a polite responsible guy so i dont think u have anything to worry about
I'll let you know in a few days. If three out of three providers (two of whom have already replied and sounded positive) come back saying "no", then the only referring provider I have is BSC. ;)

earthshined 516 reads
posted
20 / 24
QueenBia See my TER Reviews 514 reads
posted
21 / 24

Trust has to come into play sometime.  A well reviewed, or reputable provider is never going to do anything that will hurt her business.

caneman1 631 reads
posted
22 / 24

I read the whole string and my first reaction was "I guess most of these guys have had good experiences", then I see some that had the same thoughts I did.
I get that this is a risky game all the way around and in the end I'm responsible for what happens..  I think some of you guys who think giving a provider your information is safe might be a little wishful thinking.  I think in the most cases these providers don't really care about your information after they screened. But they would be crazy to get rid of it..  Also God forbid one gets caught and decided to share her screen book with whomever busted her.  Maybe since I'm a newbie I'm a little more paranoid but there is no way I'm giving my name and even worse my employment information to a provider.  I have talked to a very high rated provider with many many reviews who is ok with talking with me over the phone and getting comfort level.  I will just go with that.  I realize I have no frame of reference but I'm telling you guys that sending and email with your information is crazy.  It never goes away....But you are all big boys.  Thanks for the replies I do appreciate it and be careful out there.

Posted By: caneman1
I'm  sure this question comes up a lot... I get why providers screen.. and I think its smart.  On the same note I'm giving the very information that could ruin me.  I guess my question is have any of you heard horror stories about providers messing with people once they have the information?  Help me feel good about doing this.

oralconniseur 10 Reviews 457 reads
posted
24 / 24

Then this hobby is not for you. Stick to the street walkers that don't ask for information and get ripped off. Idiot!

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