Newbie - FAQ

Re: Not for everybody
randomguy2009 3851 reads
posted
1 / 25

I am scheduled to see a beautiful provider in a few days. In fact I've practically been drooling over her photos and can't wait for her to provide for me. This would only be my 2nd time using a provider, since I've always had steady relationships majority of my life. (I'm in my 30's)

However, I'm having some moral issues. (don't laugh!) I have read that there's this whole exploitation / pimp / etc thing going on. I'm sure everyone knows this is probably why this activity's deemed as an illegal activity by the authorities in most states.

The last thing I want to do is to feed a vicious cycle, being just another horny customer to someone who's likely been trafficked against her will, beaten , coerced, and/or have no other means of survival.

On the other hand, if it's done by choice and free will, and not some kind of stockholm-syndrome where one just learned to accept it as a new reality, then it's a different story... and i won't have much guilt seeing this provider in a few days.

Providers, feel free to PM me with your opinions if you aren't comfortable posting publicly. (you can rest assured I'll keep everything confidential )


Hobbyists, unless you are an expert in the area, hush... :)

rbotha1 See my TER Reviews 2007 reads
posted
2 / 25

I do it because I love it!
All women do this for different reasons, some are being forced but if you stick to well reviewed ladies who have been around for a while it is unlikely that you will run into this problem.
To be honest, I started just after a divorce and needed the money, had no plans to stay in the business. I realized how much I love sex and I have met some most wonderful gentlemen. I meet men who treat me way better than any man I ever met in civie life, have better sex than I ever dreamed of and build my retirement fund.
I also have my own "other" business so I do not do this only for the money, but it surely helps.
It's early, haven't had my caffiene yet so I hope this makes sense and I answered your question.
And thanks to all my wonderful clients, you make me very happy!

TheCyclist 5 Reviews 1152 reads
posted
3 / 25


Next, this is a site for upscale ladies, not girls being exploited by pimps.

just grumpy 1705 reads
posted
4 / 25

There are certainly women that have been taken advantage of, and led into prostitution.

If the lady you're looking forward to seeing is reviewed here and has her own website, chances are 99% or better that she's not one of them.  The bigger question is whether or not you're ready to play in this arena.  You seem to have too much emotional investment in the event to be able to enjoy your time with her.  Hopefully, I'm wrong.

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 1906 reads
posted
5 / 25

Is that we all get to play...

I have seen women that where being forced to have sex. I felt pretty lousy about it after I figured out what was going on so I am not here to belittle your concerns.

Is the lady you are going to see reviewed? Does she work for an agency or is she indy?  Have you had email or phone contact with her? Is she American born or foreign born.

In general, women who are being forced into providing are kept on a very short leash.  They do not have direct contact with clients. If they are reviewed at all the reviews will often be inconsistent as different ladies are often using the same name.  

Lastly, and at the risk again of generalizing, forced sex trafficking is most often related to lower income inner city areas and to foreign born women.

As a rule, if you stick with well reviewed and established ladies you will not have a problem.

RinaTakami See my TER Reviews 1783 reads
posted
6 / 25

I don't know.  It's probably unlikely that those girls are reading these boards though.

randomguy2009 1354 reads
posted
7 / 25

the reason i posted was because i simply don't know the answer to that and that's why i wanted opinions from experienced providers here.

she's a foreigner and new to the game. has her own website, answers her own emails.  i guess in that case i shouldn't worry much?

randomguy2009 1497 reads
posted
8 / 25

thanks for the info. i didn't know that. in that case, providers can post anonymously with an alias too?  

alexandra1221 1929 reads
posted
9 / 25

I’m so sorry to hear of the moral dilemma you find yourself in.  Unfortunately, morality issues are something YOU will have to work through yourself.   I couldn’t help but feel you have a very negative and narrow understanding of what a high-end provider is versus the stereotypical, drug-abusing, “I need Pampers for my babies” streetwalker.

There are a myriad of reasons why many of us have chosen to provide sex for money.  Yes, for many it is economic survival, but many high-end providers are not being beaten down by their pimp to turn tricks. Many of us are highly intelligent, are very aware of the risks, and hopefully have enough balance in their lives to withstand the many ups and downs this business can bring.

As you play more, you will meet women from all backgrounds with varying reasons why they do what they do.  For the most part, it should be none of your concern why we are doing it.  

The question for you is whether or not your moral quandry will allow you to have an open mind and not look down upon the women who are providing you pleasure.  I also question if our responses are supposed to make you feel better for doing something illegal or immoral.  We cannot help you with that.  We give you physical and hopefully mental pleasure, but we cannot help you with any moral conflicts you are experiencing.  

Relax your brain and enjoy the game.  

Oh, my gosh, I rhymed!!

Love,
Alex

RinaTakami See my TER Reviews 1169 reads
posted
10 / 25

If it really bothers you, I guess you'd stick with providers who have been around for a while as some of the others suggested, and that are reputable.  The girls who are being forced to do this, I would imagine they wouldn't last long, and it might reflect in reviews at some point.

randomguy2009 995 reads
posted
11 / 25

Believe me I was not looking down on it at all but rather asking for your advice. In fact I'm glad that beautiful women have the option to take that route (and make something like 2 ~ 10 times what I make in a year.)

I'm very well aware that there's a higher end spectrum to this who are intelligent and living the high life. These women aren't who I'm concerned about and what they choose to do is not my business, like you said.

I guess what I really want to know is in the region somewhere between crack-addicted streetwalkers and the ultra high end: how can I tell if the girl's been trafficked and coerced against her will?

randomguy2009 2602 reads
posted
12 / 25

Yes, she's reviewed to have great physical appearance and good performance, but only 2 reviews exist.

She's new to the game and working with experienced well-known providers at the time starting out with doubles for new clients. She has DIRECT contact via email / indy. No agency.

She's a foreigner who speaks little english which is what raised some red flags in my mind initially but I guess I shouldn't think too much and just enjoy my time now?

Carrie Hillcrest See my TER Reviews 2464 reads
posted
13 / 25

I think it's fantastic that you're concerned about the lady's safety and well-being. Compassion is never a bad thing. :)

As others have mentioned, there's a very low chance that the lady is providing against her will or through outside coercion if she's independent, established, and consistently known for enjoyable and reliable dates. Sex trafficking *does* happen, and can be found anywhere, but the chances of a known indie lady being trafficked or working for a pimp are very low -- word would get out, and few clients would want to find themselves involved. Typically that unfortunate situation is found in the lower rate brackets (low-end Craigslist or streetwalkers), at a disreputable agency, in massage parlors, or another situation in which contact with clients and the outside world is at a minimum. There are *plenty* of women providing in those situations by their own choice and are free to leave/quit when they want, so please don't think that all -- or even the majority -- are victims. It happens, but it's rare even then.

However, concerns for the lady aside, as a newbie you need to watch out for yourself first and foremost. Which, conveniently, involves following the same recommendation of only seeing ladies who are established and reliable. ;)

randomguy2009 1810 reads
posted
14 / 25



my email address is strangedays2006 (at) gmail.com

I'd like to hear your opinions and stories.

Just want to get a clearer picture.

Thanks!

alexandra1221 1967 reads
posted
15 / 25

I respect your sensitivity, as we never want to forget the human factor here.  Unfortunately, this is something you might not ever be privy to unless she reveals this to you. We learn very little about one another during a one or two hour session, and what we do learn is only what we choose to reveal.

As I believe many have already posted, choose women (or men, whatever your proclivity) with well-established reputations on this site, or other sites, is a good start to ease some of the social demons that might creep up on you.

Alex

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 1732 reads
posted
16 / 25

Two reviews is not enough to convince me to see a provider. Physical appearance is only part of what I am looking for with a sexual partner.  What I am definitely NOT looking for is a situation where I am getting roped into doing a double because one of the girls is inexperienced.

Too many red flags for me and it has nothing to do with human trafficking.

randomguy2009 945 reads
posted
17 / 25

red flag?...

it could be a sting op?

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 1285 reads
posted
18 / 25

Doubtful. More than likely just way too much money for an unknown quantity.

RinaTakami See my TER Reviews 1140 reads
posted
19 / 25

I've never been trafficked or had a "pimp", as you say.  I've already expressed my opinion in my posts.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 1546 reads
posted
20 / 25

provider trainee, then it should be a 2 for 1.  You pay the "teacher" and tip generously to the "student".

SHDWWLKR 6 Reviews 1427 reads
posted
21 / 25

Hey bro, I've got some strong advice for you. Get a Civie Girlfriend. I Can tell by your comments you're not ready for this hobby.

randomguy2009 1977 reads
posted
22 / 25

I already have a smokinghot civvy girlfriend, lol.

And I have no problem seeing higher-end providers who charge like $500 ~$1500/hr. Heck I wouldn't be able to earn that kind of money during badtimes, even if I wanted to become a gigalo. My last one cost me over $6000, and it was really nice...

But my subtle point is that I do have a problem if the girl was coerced into this against her will, being controlled by pimps, beaten, or otherwise disrespected in anyway.  

I'm a sexcrazed unfaithful animal but I'd like to think that I have some conscience left in me.

PS: check out Nadia Style's testimonial... she's a bit weird when she talks but I was moved by her ability to change. I'm a scientist, not a religious person at all, but was still moved by this interview...

maturebridgette See my TER Reviews 1424 reads
posted
24 / 25

As a provider, if the woman seems like she is not into it for whatever reason she may not be into it. But as far as myself, I love sex and love what I do.

maturebridgette See my TER Reviews 3804 reads
posted
25 / 25

Ok..not to be rude or anything..but If you have this smoking hot gf why you looking for ummm providers? I think there is more to this guy then meets the eye. Im glad you make money..i make money also..what I do not understand is..many have already mentioned that maybe you arent ready to enjoy the company of one of these fine women if you are going to spend your time worrying about her private life. There is no full proof way of knowing why she is doing it( pimp etc) but if she has reviews, (which is the way you should go to ease ya mind) I wouldn't worry about her:D

just my opinion:D

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