So I'm traveling more lately and decided to give the hobby a try.  Paid for VIP here, getting verified with date check (haven't decided on 411 yet), but the first three or four providers have said they need 2 references in addition to the verification site.  So how does one overcome this dilemma?

I see advice saying to only go with known providers, and stick with independents if you want more discretion, but how do Ii find providers that will help me get over the reference hump?

Any help appreciated.

Find a provider who does other types of screening i.e. running phone numbers, work verification, site(dc,p411&other) verification. These take time so allow her some time to research.

Plan ahead, take some time to see if there is a well reviewed indy provider in the region who will see you for the first time. Be upfront that you are just getting into the hobby, that this is your first time. Be prepared to give them some relevant work info. My first ever experience was seeing Rebecca in Charlotte on a business trip. I emailed her a week in advance and (trustingly) gave her my employer (which she skillfully verified). We had a terrific session and of course I used her for my first few times as a reference. I try to see her once per year to return the favor.

Find someone local, well reviewed (my opinion) a little more mature. I tend to lean over 35+and find that most ladies are willing to work with you IF you provide verifiable info. It also helps if you are honest and act like a mature and educated gentleman when you communicate with them.

Just my $.02

You might want to think about joining P411. The ladies can list if they are newbie friendly there so you dont have to waste your/other ladies time.

You will be able to find some ladies that will see you with the DateCheck only verification. They may not be the ladies you have at the top of your list but starting out you have to be somewhat patient. Once you have a few references, you will be able to go back to virtually anyone at that point and they will gladly see you.

Other possibilities are that some ladies will see you if you give them your work info that they can verify. That and the DateCheck might do better for you but you may not want to give that info out to a provider.

Some will see you if you meet them publically first and they check your ID against what you tell them over the phone/email.

the same situation. I am a new TER VIP and P411 member, but still trying to find an newbie friendly provider that I find attractive, since all the desirable ones that I want to hobby with require basic +1 or +2. There are not much providers where I live so it will be difficult to build my resume. I may have to keep going to AMP for a while; which is not a bad thing but no GFE.

OC

Coincidentally, I will be in Charlotte next week.  Does Rebecca have a TER profile perhaps?  Did you use her as a reference for other providers?

Thanks to everyone else for the tips, I'll be patient.

I tried but in my state when I check P411 there are only 5 providers that come up and they all ask for basic +1 or +2. That is why I need to try another state to get any references. I will keep trying. Thanks.

OC

I guess I should not be too choosy as a newbie. I just need to earn my references by having sex with as much random women. Hmmm.....that is not a bad thing once you think about it.

OC

You can probably get references by seeing newbie friendly gals....and if you treat them well, they will likely do the same.  Having sex with many random women.....never said that.

Got it.