That is why there are reviews, so that you can see what kinds of activites are engaged in by the providers who have reviews here.

Any time you mention sex for money whether it be email, phone or what-have-you, you break the rule which all on here adhere to which is:  Do not discuss specifics sex acts, especially in relation to money.

Anyone who does this runs the risk of being thought of as LE, and you will be promptly cut off.  If you are not cut off, there is some possibilty that the person you meet will be LE.

How do you tell a provider either via email or the phone what you are interested in, without opening yourself up to problems with LE?

is when you are both naked between the sheets.   You don't need to discuss anything prior.  Read the reviews, you both know why you're there.
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Legit and smart providers won't talk about sex acts either on the phone or e-mail.  When you meet the provider for the first time "DO AN LE CHICK 1ST!" before you start asking sexual questions.

This question and answer should be in the FAQ. However, I am still looking for someone to test out my suggestion to arrive at the WRONG room in the guise of someone PROVIDING (not seeking) a service to another, easy to mistake, room number.  See: "Possible LE defense. Will this work?"

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=33&MessageID=74301

Please let us know if it works! If you don't have internet access from jail, ask your lawyer to post the info for us.

I disagree....I use e-mail as my main contact with new clients. Sometimes sexual acts MUST be discussed. I use the typical code words(bbbj, hj etc) Sometimes a client wants to know "do you offer greek?" if he didn't ask over the phone or in e-mail and my answer was not something he was looking for we both waste our time! I also talk about money...but NEVER use $$ signs.   "250/1hr"  is always in a separate e-mail never in the same message as discussing sexual acts I perform.

I also accept payment AFTER the acts are done and they are leaving. YES this leaves me open to getting ripped off but at the same time a LE won't have sex with you, or touch you without getting the money clear upfront. I also never take money from their hands. (some guys offer it upfront by habit) I tell them to "oh! put that over there if you want" so I don't take ownership of it,but yet we both know it's for me. Also I host at my place almost 95% of the time so I have a controlled environment.

I also have a very keen sense when it comes to people. I can tell by the way they type,talk, and ask questions if they are going to be a serious client,a no-show, or possible LE.


I also happen to be in a nice area,nice city where this type of thing doesn't happen a lot so LE's aren't patrolling it like mad.(although a few cities over it is rampant with setups)

LE can and sometimes does have sex w/ a provider - and they'll still bust you.

Be that as it may, as one person pointed out awhile back, newbies need to learn how to do things discreetly before they go further. The sooner they learn the correct way to approach the majority of providers, the sooner they can see the ones who don't get spooked easily.

Furthermore, it's irresponsible of you to say it to a group of newbies who may not know better.  If you are actually serious, do yourself a favor and stop typing and start reading.

I'm not trying to suggest that every person who uses the acronyms is LE.  The odds are probably 1 in a hundred or less in fact; but even with those odds, I won't take the bet especiallly when much safer ways of getting what you want exist, namely, the reviews on this and other sites.

and it's just plain infantile... If you have to go thru all that silliness to see a lady, you should stay home and yanky the wanky to PornHub..

I'm communicating with a provider through email and she asked if I have any special requests. I want Greek. But if I write that or use a euphemism have I created an LE problem?

It's tiring but amusing to read the same Question almost every month. I give the newbies enough credit to read an entire thread, not just one post. I'm not an authority but there seems to be a consensus Answer: There is NO WAY "tell a provider either via email or the phone what you are interested in, without opening yourself up to problems with LE".

Coded messages are no protection. The LE check at the door is no protection. Pretending you came to the wrong room, with or without a pizza, is no protection. Depending on the jurisdiction and local political climate, you are cooked as soon as you show up: no envelope needed, no verbal exchange needed, no hanky panky needed. You are presumed to be carrying lethal weapons and can be taken down by a small army of cops looking to make headlines for the mayor or police chief. Hence my "joke" about "You can wash the shoe prints off your face and pick up your teeth after they untwist your arms and let you go."

Newbies: Save the pizza for a late night snack. The best way to avoid problems with LE is to read the reviews and choose wisely and safely.


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Before you even call a provider, you need to make sure she's not LE.
Because if she's LE and you called, then she already has your phone number on record.

So what are red flags for providers with no reviews:
1) Very low rates - probably too good to be true
2) No face pics and no nude pics ... women cops would not go naked, and would not display their face on a public website for all their family to see them naked.
3) How long has she posted ads ? If she's posted ads for a long time - that's good. If you just saw her ad today, hmmm ... I wouldn't call.
4) I have texted providers at around 11 or 12 midnight, and if they respond immediately - most likely not cops, but providers who are keen on getting good business. LE stings do not usually happen at 12 midnight.

After I have acertained she's no cop, I do ask questions about her service - BBBJ, DATY, DFK, GFE.

Yup... all those things will really help me slap the cuffs on AFTER I've finished my coffee. Thanks for the BJ  

If you have to... save special requests for later dates. Euphemisms, such as "a trip to the islands" are no better.

Sorry for the alias, but I used it above for effect,,, hound_dog69

Ok, so I'm a newbie looking for some time with a cute gal.  Ironically, what I'm looking for is legal, but the gals who do it also engage in illegal activity and so it attracts cops.

I've been reading the threads.  I see people advising that newbies check the reviews.  The problem is: What is to prevent five or six corn-fed redneck sheriff's deputies from logging on to this website and creating fake reviews to create the appearance that a gal or agency is legit!?

I've been checking out a website for some girls in the northwest and-- on their actual website which is listed on TER-- there are prices of $250-300 per hour and explicit details of what the girls do.  Anyone with a room-temperature IQ can look up "BBBJ" and "CIM" to see that the girls are offering sex for money.  The funny thing is that this agency is highly rated and reviewed on TER.

How does one check out an agency or a girl?  I'm not worried, as a John, that I'm a cop.  I'm worried SHE is!

read the reviews & look for seasoned reviewers.  a dozen or more reviews...  That pretty well established her validity.  You can even PM one or 2.
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I recently met a SP who has no reviews.  She has a profile on another board, but is too new to have any reviews, references or vouches.  She indicated that she has seen guys by answering ads from CL personals.  So far she seems ok and she has actually sent me nude pics, but the nude pics didn't include her face.  So would it be a good idea to ask for a nude pic that included her face?  Or is there any thing else I need to ask to verify she is not LE?

Also, we have a tentative meet&greet scheduled to chat and get to know each other...NOT AN APPT.  The meeting will take place in a public place.  Is there any issues or things I need to be aware of before I meet with her?

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