Many independent providers have a cut-off age and stick to it, however most do not. I think the important thing to remember is that maturity is more important than age to a provider.
Also, many well reviewed providers request that the first contact be by email, prior to them providing their phone number.
Ghost, re-read your post carefully, and compare it to the answer to your question by isfcco. Now, if you were a provider opening up her inbox one morning, which of those messages would she think was sent by a mature gentleman, and which might she think was sent by a kid on a lark?
hey! pretty new this. im sure its apparent becuz im in the 'n00b' section.
anyways, my question is..i guess whats the general age guys see girls. im constantly reading 'professional gentlement' or 'see men over 30 only'. things of this nature. im 24 and i find it hard for these girls to want to see me, becuz they feel i am young. lets be honest wen these ladies say they're 29 they're prolly 40. so basically im just wondering am i to young? and im looking at the wrong ladies? any help or info on the matter would give the condfidence boost i need.
thanks!
I remember reading on some of the companion's personal sites why they see men of a specific age. If you look around you might find this information that way.
As for who may see you, I am not entire sure how to go about it. My first encounter I was 23/24 myself, it was with a pair of girls who did massage only "Champaign Dreams" if I remember the name of their company right. From there I used them as a reference with a few escort agencies but soon after I was married, so I quit.
It's significantly later (I'll demonstrate: GFE used to be a special order, now it seems everyone is offering it to some degree or another), but I would think it would still work similarly. You could, always, call up some of the agencies listed and see if they have someone who wouldn't mind seeing someone your age as well. The worst they would do, probably, is say "no" and they might say yes.
Many independent providers have a cut-off age and stick to it, however most do not. I think the important thing to remember is that maturity is more important than age to a provider.
Also, many well reviewed providers request that the first contact be by email, prior to them providing their phone number.
Ghost, re-read your post carefully, and compare it to the answer to your question by isfcco. Now, if you were a provider opening up her inbox one morning, which of those messages would she think was sent by a mature gentleman, and which might she think was sent by a kid on a lark?
Absolutly. you are right. i can tottaly see what you mean on how my spelling and so fourth comes off as 'teenager-ish' for a lack of a better term. I appreciate everyones incite. thank you all!
Also, many well reviewed providers request that the first contact be by email, prior to them providing their phone number.
Ghost, re-read your post carefully, and compare it to the answer to your question by isfcco. Now, if you were a provider opening up her inbox one morning, which of those messages would she think was sent by a mature gentleman, and which might she think was sent by a kid on a lark?
The main reason providers prefer not to see men under 30 is they sometimes lack maturity and don't know how to behave. So if you come across as immature, they won't see you. If you present yourself well, they may. Also, while providers may bend the truth about their age, no one who's 40 will pretend they're 29. It's too obvious a bait-and-switch, at least for someone who is well reviewed. The main thing is to see women with solid TER reviews. If you come across like a well-spoken, nice guy, you'll be fine. So, please, brush up on your writing skills!
Agreed to everyone.. under 30-35, there tend to be more problems & less compatibility, but there are ladies out there who WILL see you, especially if you follow everything on her website in order to book an appointment. The more through you are, the more you'll come across as being serious, and not just doing something on a whim that you're probably not serious about. And I agree, if a lady states she's 29, she's probably around 32, NOT 40, lol.... my profile here says between 26-30, which is correct, as 30 I am. The ladies who grossly misrepresent themselves like that, aren't the ones you want to see anyway, which can usually be ruled out by reading reviews...
I agree with what has been said by previous posters in answering your question. I will add in regard to your communication skills (typing, spelling etc.) in e-mail and posting on sites, remember it isn't texting. Your post reminded me of some text messages I have tried to decipher. Complete sentences and proper punctuation will help.
There are ladies that will see younger clients. Take the advice offered about presenting yourself in a mature and respectful manner. Your writing style can go a long way in helping you to present yourself that way.
Have made a few exceptions. Here is what you need to do, write the companion a well thought out sincere email. Then go through the screening process. Here is the big one, schedule in advance and don't blow off the appointment.
My biggest issue with younger gentlemen is they have treated me as less then a human being bcd. I have had to ask more to leave then I can count. Above everything be respectful.
have the maturity level to treat provders like ladies. Providers are not real-life blow-up dolls that are meant for 59 minutes of straight intercourse.
If you want to play, is select providers who are older than you. This not a dating service & it's hard enough to keep your head on straight at times. TER is your friend. Read the entire Self Help section, then read back on this board until you can answer every question yourself. Read some on the other boards as well.
Read some girls web sites... see what is offered & how this world works. When you get to selecting you should get VIP. Read the complete reviews. Only choose well reviewed ladies... several reviews & at least some experienced reviewers. You ought to ba able to create a bucket list with several prospects in a single month. Yes, it's about impossible to keep VIP with reviews. You need to figure out a secure payment method.
You must remember that this is a secret world. Are you ready to lead a double life? You must never speak of this hobby to anyone outside the boards. You must not tell your brother, your best friend, or any future girlfriend, not even the girl you are about to marry. (You can say you had other girls friends, you never give a number & NEVER say how many hours they were your girlfriend for.) Can you KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT? This is why girls don't see younger guys.
If you should pass her at the mall, you do not show any recognition nor should she. Perhaps a slight nod of the head as you would a gentle stranger passing. You don't know who she's with nor will she know who you are with.
You must have a separate private email not linked to your main account. You should have a separate phone... only turned on when you are meeting. Someday when you meet someone & settle down, these are disgarded & there are no tracks back to you. BTW, the certain release of being in the hobby means that you are free to civie date without being stark raving drooling at the mouth horny.
At your age, I foolishly took myself off the market by falling for a woman who would never be free... big mistake. IMHO, you should continue to be open to civie relationships.
You should approach a potential provider respectfully, do not discuss $$ or sex. You should have that information from her web site and reviews. She will want personal information for screening for her safety. Explain that you are NEW & don't have references. Follow her rules & her instructions.
best wishes,
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I've also had some make exceptions for me. Be respectful and use your manners. As long as your a gentleman, you shouldn't have any issues finding a lady to see you.
I have had one lady not see me because of my age, so I just moved on. Make sure when you eamil a lady, just tell her about yourself and include your age.
Keep trying and good luck!
That is all about that initial email or phone call and how you handle yourself.If you contact a lady provide the required info and are very respectful you never know what might happen.Some ladies will not make exceptions on their age requirements some will but it also depends on how the gentleman conducts himself.By your posting if you contact the ladies the way you wrote your post I can see the problem it comes off as you being a young person and not to serious.The thinking ladies saying they are 29 and are really 40 is not enduring and comes off as being very young minded.I usually see gentleman that are older than me I get a few gentleman that are younger but their initial contact came off rude and arrogant almost like they were doing me a favor by contacting me.I do not respond to that type of contact if you do what BoyToy and a few other replies have suggested things might go your way.
Good luck!
I have had one lady not see me because of my age, so I just moved on. Make sure when you eamil a lady, just tell her about yourself and include your age.
Keep trying and good luck!
it makes you look like you're 15 and in no way mature enough to speak to much less be with a quality provider.
Second, don't assume that if "ladies say they're 29 they're prolly 40," or any of the rest of that nonsense. We providers make a living from who we are and what we look like. A lie that big would make us stand out and not in a good way.
Third, learn to listen to others who have been there before, learn to research what we ladies want (and believe us because we're very clear on what we want) and learn to be respectful in all your dealings with us.
Your post is inherently immature and full of the kind of attitude that we ladies will avoid immediately. If you want to be seen by a lady who says "over 30 only" then you'd best come across as if you're as mature as one who IS "over 30."
young once. I still consider myself young at heart with a healthy attitude. The sooner the younger guys learn to treat a provider like the lady she is, the sooner they will enjoy excellent experiences.
The reverse holds true as well. Many of the younger providers in their early 20's don't have the the mental maturity to treat a man like a king in every respect. Some of these younger hotties just want to get you to cum fast and then they think their job is finished.
"Your post is inherently immature and full of the kind of attitude that we ladies will avoid immediately."
I'm with you on this, Jolene. Here he is assuming right off the bat that providers are all lying about their age! I've made exceptions for younger guys but he's the type I try to screen OUT. Respect and maturity will get you a long way. There's a reason so many have that rule in the first place.
I agree with everyone else "becuz" what your post "prolly" says about you isn't very flattering. But I'd like to offer some different advice.
I wish I was 24 again so I could make a better effort to make it in the civvie world. Maybe take a night off from studying. (Although that "prolly" doesn't apply in your case.) Ask some girls out on a date, even if it means lots of rejections. Keep asking! When you finally get a yes, dip into the rainy day fund to try to have a good time (for the BOTH of you). You can always "hobby" when you're older but you can't get back your current opportunities for something more real.
Ah, youth! Too bad it's wasted on the young! (paraphrase of George Bernard Shaw)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_wrote_'Youth_is_wasted_on_the_young'
I have to be a little redundant and echo most of the information and provide my own insight on the main points:
1. Mind your writing style. Your questions, grammar, spelling, and wording came off as careless and lazy. When you contact someone you have to treat it almost as you would a business letter (heck, that's probably where they got the word "proposition" to be associated with all of this...) or a school assignment. You would never write a colleague or a teacher (I hope) in the style you wrote your question. Mind your spelling, capitalization, and sentence structure without peppering your language with superfluous 'big words' and nonsensical grammar. Be respectful and act mature. Notice the difference between the way I write and the way you do.
Do that and you'll be fine. In this hobby, you have to put the best 'you' out there from initial contact to eventual meeting. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been complemented on the fact that I am much more mature than I am for my age. I've had a comment that my initial email sounded like it came from a 45 year old. That was also tempered by the fact that the provider then also commented (in person) that I was things like "funny" and "awesome"... so I'm okay with that. There's times when you can finally relax, but always be respectful. You still have to work to get to your appointment.
2. Are you looking at the wrong ladies? Maybe. When I first joined this board a few years ago, I found a lot more ladies that excluded me by age. Now, either through changing times or or preference this has become a non-issue. Do I occasionally look at a website that excludes me? Yes. But, I stress the "occasional" part. I just move on. As should you (just don't move on to someone that screens lightly and could be a danger to yourself and others)
My advice: make sure that you look at ladies your own age. I've had great luck with the +/- 3 years crowd as well as travelers. Follow protocol and instructions to the letter and you'll be fine.
3. Are you too young? No. Just follow #1 and #2 above. As long as you don't act like you're too young, you shouldn't encounter too many issues. Remember that most of the (male) advice coming on this board is from gentlemen that could be your (and my) father or even grandfather. They cringe at the fact that we could be, at times, seeing the same women. However, it does and will happen. So, don't think you're in the minority group. As long as you are judged to be mature and respectful by the community, and have the money and emotional stability to handle it, you can 'play'.
4. General advice: Get VIP, read the FAQs, ask intelligent questions if you need guidance. Get verified, even if you have to join a service to do so. Follow all instructions, make sure to have your own, separate, 'hobby' phone and email. We have a lot of years ahead of us, you don't need to have this complicated by a) law enforcement b) drama or c) your history in the hobby coming out at some point, because of a mistake you made when starting out.
If you read this far... enjoy, and good luck.