and require less paperwork too!

Now... I can't get a mortgage

My very first date?  Wow, that was with a FBSM provider and I had emailed her in advance of a trip to where she advertised, both on Eros and CL.

First FS provider... not sure it counts.  She was offering therapuetic massage, and on our third session she gave me a surprise.

First who advertised FS and asked for references which I couldn't provide?  She did an employment check.  I suggested she call to confirm my shipping address as we all are in the habit of having UPS/FedEx ship personal items to our office rather than home, especially if signature is required.

But still, I've gotten faster answer for instant credit while checking out at a dept store than some some of the more thorough screeners.

And I'm mostly kidding about the mortgage.  I locked into a 30 year fixed several years ago.

Hi Robin, I'm a recent newbie, I've seen 3 providers in the last week or so (when I start a new hobby I tend to plunge in). I went with the more upscale providers that had their own web site and were well reviewed. I haven't been asked for much in the way of verification. One just asked for my real name and my real phone number which I had already given her. Another didn't really ask for anything. The third just asked me on the phone if I was with LE. In all three cases I offered to call them from my office phone or email them from my company or do anything else that would make them comfortable that I was safe. None of them asked me to do this, maybe just me offering was enough. I've never had to provide a reference.

One tip I got from my first provider was that she will string a newbie along, trading phone calls or emails for a few days. In her opinion the law enforcement people are looking for quick busts and they get impatient with the back and forth and move on to easier targets.

I think it's very nice of you to consider this. Now that I'm not really a newbie anymore I kind of feel a responsibility to TOFTT. Somebody's got to do it. Unfortunately I've blown through my hobby budget for at least a month or two, so I'll have to wait. I got a little carried away and blew through over a thousand bucks in a week.

Be safe.    

And I honestly don't mean this to sound condescending, but

3 appointments last week leaves you very much a newbie, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Enjoy the safety of the shallow water and get more experience behind you before you take on the pros.  The unreviewed ladies you are considering TOFTT with can be undiscovered delights or hardened criminals, and absolutely everything in between.  The experience base to sniff out the difference takes time and can come at great cost.

My very unsolicited $.02

I started off with a K-Girl that had a booker answer her calls. There was no questions except, "Whats your name, and age?"

For my second one.. that was quite difficult, but I eventually met up with her. I emailed her for almost 1 whole month back, and forth before we met up. When I finally met up with her, I asked what made her decide to meet with me. She said something along the lines of... "I don't know, you just seemed so cool, and I just know these things."

What I can't wait for is the surprise on their faces when they see me, haha. Of course I tell them my age, but they still seem surprised.

I just called another lady, and hopefully she goes through with the day that we agreed upon. It was interesting hearing her reaction when I told her my age too, haha.

She was like.. "You know I am a mature woman", and I was like "Yea that's no problem, the lady I saw for my second time had 2 kids", then she said something else that I forgot.

My 1st was easy,I just did what was required by most.(filled out the verification form).No problem!
BTW,this was with a lady who's a well traveled,upper tier provider!

Robbin,

I started in this hobby recently. I was fortunate enough that a well known provider in Vegas TOFTT with me. I did supply her with all my pertinent info which she thoroughly checked. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. Course I'm an old romantic guy so she could have just sat with me and smiled and I would have enjoyed her company. If you check my reviews you will see who that was. I am sure she would also shed some light on your question. I have heard some drawbacks from some providers and I can not stress enough to remember "This is your business" and the old adage still stands. "I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone I choose." It's harsh but your safety is foremost. Not sure if this helps answer your question. I know I speak for all of us who read these boards....We appreciate you joining us in here and say Thank You.

Hoss1215

I'm not a newbie but many of the girls I see aren't aware of that. Probably less than half require a provider reference.  The others have other screening methods that a newbie could pass.

Those are good questions Robbin.  It would be good if some providers would answer this post also. You know that us newbies are in favor of providers TOFTT, it makes it easier to get established.

I emailed a couple providers stating I was new and had no references, but was willing to work with them to provide any assurance they needed. One emailed back asking for my name, workplace, and to attach a picture (for verifying it was me when I showed up at the door). I did so and a couple days later she approved me, gave me her phone number and asked me to call the morning of the session day.

b-

If a newbie is open, up front, and forthcoming with both the fact that he's new AND with all the information I need, that will very, VERY much increase his chances of successfully scheduling with me. I try to help newbies out, but I'm not going to hold them by the hand through the whole process.

It's pretty clear on my website (I hope) that I offer a screening option for those who are new, don't see many ladies, or have been away from seeing ladies for a while -- employment verification.

This won't work for everyone, of course. It's very difficult to verify someone who is self-employed or retired, for example. Those I generally pass on seeing. If it becomes an ordeal to verify someone, to be perfectly honest, I'd rather not bother. I'm taking a lot of risk seeing someone without references, and if I don't feel 99.9% sure someone is who he says he is, I'm not comfortable seeing him.

Again, I can't emphasize enough how important it is to find out what specific information a lady needs and then give it to her. It's not endearing to have a back-and-forth exchange of emails in which I have to drag info out of someone.

Robin, I first read the newbie manual from back and the newbie tips as well. Stalked the boards and posts for about 2 weeks as well.

Then I found a review of a very well reviewed lady in my area. I wrote her a very informative letter (almost like a resume) to her and told her in the first paragraph about me being a real newbie and had never seen a provider.

My closing paragraph stated that if there was any other info on me she would like to consider seeing me then please either call or email me.

After trading about 2 emails she did call me. We talked for a good while and then she told me she would see me.

The rest is history as I now use her all the time as one of my references, I do still see her about every 4 weeks or so and I still tell her every time thanks for giving me my chance!!

I don't consider it taking one for the team.

I think that seeing a newbie is a way to discover new sources of a rare and valuable commodity: ORGASMS.  

Don't worry, he'll get his too

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Thanks for the $.02 cents amigo, it's probably worth more than that though. Yep, I know I'm still very much a n00b. I will consider myself so for years as I have in all fields of endeavor. Point taken, Here There Be Monsters. Besides an intelligent n00b would rather feel the sting of condescension than the sting of an STD, arrest, or mugging.

I've participated in a number of risky activities in my life and have managed to come through relatively unscathed. I'm a geek and I do a huge amount of research. I enjoy undertakings that carry a large perceived risk and then taking as much risk out of the activity as possible, calculated risks in other words. I always consider the worst case scenario along with it's probability and decide if I can live with it.  It's fun. When I get too scared or unsure I back off.

I will heed your advice. However one could err on the opposite end of the spectrum and find a very well reviewed provider and see her exclusively. This would not count as experience IMHO. It reminds me of an employee I had once who wanted a salary increase. He'd been with the company 40 years performing the same entry level job I could train a moderately intelligent high school drop out to do in a few hours. When I denied his salary increase he asked "Don't my 40 years of experience count for anything". I told him as gently as possible that he really didn't have 40 years of experience, only 1 year repeated 40 times. If only someone would have told him that sooner.  

If we all followed your advice all the time there would eventually not be any providers with reviews. Hah, that gives me a kick to use Kant's moral imperative to illustrate a point in an activity that the self-righteous hypocrites would consider immoral. How cool is that?

Thanks again for the advice, I'll be the safer for it.

Peace

Astucious    

Vigor aetatis fluit ut flos veris.

you should not have any problems.  I think some ladies compromise their screening and then they get into a problem.  We do live in a somewhat difficult world now.

We all were newbies at one time.  Last month I saw a lady who only had one review (none at the time I made the appointment).  It was a great date and I'm sure glad I took the chance.

I feel like...

well...

I think the Dire Straits said it best...

(PS - Still love that pic with the wine glass... pinot noir if I recall is what you said you love)

Bisous!

Lucky you. Im in my early 20s and still saving for my first time with a provider. Right now, im just looking at reviews to see who i want to be my first. Cant decide if i should go for an older woman, red head, ebony, asian, there are just so many beautiful women to choose from.

My only concern is STDs. I dont have any, and I dont want to get any. I hope this comment is not rude in any way, i guess its 1st time jitters. I want to make sure that who ever my first is, is someone that i can trust and has positive reviews from other users that have not caught anything. Maybe a low volume provider. I dont know. I know protection is a must but i would like to meet a woman who is clean and nice. Im broke now, but when i get a good paying job in my major, i only want to hire the same 2 to 3 providers on a constant basis.