I'm new to this, have seen one provider, she's excellent but lives out of town. I want to get use upscale agencies but they require more than one reference, preferred411 or date verify, which requires employment confirmation. Can't give employment info. How do I establish cred while protecting my confidentiality?

if you can afford it, is to take a little "hobby vacation" to a city that caters to tourists.  Vegas comes to mind for me.  Anyway, the girls in the cities that cater to tourists are usually pretty good about verifying you other ways like your ID and airline ticket or something like that.  Go see a couple of the top ladies where-ever you are or go, and then you've got your two provider references from well-known and well-established providers.

Hey I can think of a lot worse was to spend a few days!!

Most importantly, always remember to HAVE FUN!!

Good luck with great fucks!!

If you call their 800# you can talk to someone who'll suggest other info you can provide.  I'm retired, so no employment info is possible but we worked out something else.  Yes, you will have to provide personal info, but if you want to play you'll have to get over that.  P411 is in Canada and they're very reputable, as is Date-Check.  But as far as I know, only P411 has an 800#, so I'd start with them.

I recently signed up with p411 with no provider references but I submitted proof that I was self-employed.  They were very helpful and made the process very quick and simple.  Good luck

Hey I am kind of stuck in a similar situation, I have been contacting well known local girls and giving them my TER id and employment info but then I dont hear any response and idk what to do. I dont have any provider references and I dont even want to give out my work info because I work at a very small company but its the only way to do it but most girls seem to not accept that as a reference any suggestions anyone? and are you guys saying if I got a P411 account most girls would accept that as a good enough reference to start building up credit and reviews??

Got preffered 411 yesterday.
Very discreet when they called and made sure the call went to me.  Asked so,e question of me only, and I was all set.

Not sure why you can't give employment info, but thought maybe sharing how easy it was might help.
They certainly know what they are doing.

BSR

First off, P411 is great! Very confidential. Within the P411 membership are different levels which you gain the more providers you see. When you start out you will most likely need to find a provider that will see a "newbie". Some ladies will take your P411 membership but also still require references from providers. It just depends on the lady.

Second, if you are contacting local girls and giving them just your TER ID (which anyone can get....) and employment information it would mean they have to be a provider who is willing to see a newbie - someone without true provider references. Many ladies are not willing to take that risk or will do it only on a case by case basis.

When I see newbies, they have contacted me and specifically told me (based on my website information) that they are new and don't have references and will fall into my website category "c". They know they are going to have to provide a little more information and are more than willing to do so. They might indicate the level of discretion that is required or anything else they feel comfortable telling me but they know they have to give up some personal information. Often times, to have a level of trust,  I will ask them "what are you willing to give me for references" and then if I feel I can work with what they give me we go from there.

For long term though, P411 is the way to go.

Summer