If she has many reviews, talk to some of them.  But, any girl that does not at least ask for something, I would wonder about.

If she was a member of a local private board I belonged to, I would not be really concerned, after talking to her sponsor.  Otherwise, I would not even bother pursuing her any further, until some other guy was willing to TOFTT, which I am not.

Swim

i'm sure this has probably been covered in another post, but couldn't find it through the search fn. so sorry if this is a dupe.

should i have LE concerns about a provider who doesn't ask for screening? i have a specific provider in mind (i looked her up here, but couldn't find a review), but it's more of a general question.

thanks!

ps. i started a thread in the boston and ny boards if anyone can provide a review on the provider in question.

She doesn't have a review...she doesn't want to know anything about you...and you have no idea if she is a B&S, ROB, flake, or otherwise...perhaps even LE.

Move along to one that is reviewed (highly) and don't waste another moment on this one.

Many well reviewed, discreet providers don't ask for references. By itself, it shouldn't necessarily raise LE concerns. It also doesn't mean that she isn't screening you some other way.

It is not a be all, end all situation however given that I myself have had established providers see me without verifying or asking for references.

You still need to be cautious even if a provider askd for references or verifies. LE are adapting and changing their tactics.

Depending on how "visible" you are on line and what email and phone number you used to contact her, she may have all she needs without asking.

Lina

Im new on here and moving to the US so i don't have reviews as yet but it seems to be the common denomonator here that if you dont have reviews nobody will see you. I have alot of revieews in the UK but i';ve asked for all existance of my to be  erased from the world wide web as i don't want a trace to be left. Im starting to think that was a bad move. How do i combat the fact that i have no reiews on a US site?? As i need to start somewhere x

I would not see a totally unreviewed provider.  Just me but I'll not risk my hobby money & opportunity.

Your hobby phone & hobby email...  are a basic screening tool.

thanks for chiming in all! turns out in another thread someone clued me into another ad using the same pics, but different provider info. i'm sure that's not altogether uncommon, but in comparing the 2 ads, there's 1 too many discrepancies for my liking. thus, i won't be seeing her anytime soon.

P411 has an 800 #, so you can discuss your problem with them and work something out.  Both sites are reliable, credible ways for mongers to develop screening credentials but it works both ways.  Also, get yourself a web site so you can present yourself well to clients.  On P411, assuming you get registered, make sure you list yourself as "newbie friendly" to "basic only" clients (guys who are beginners with no provider OKs).  Advertise on TER that you're seeking reviews.  You may find an experienced reviewer who will TOFTT (take one for the team, meaning risk seeing an unreviewed girl who looks good but may be a risk).  Perhaps others have additional ideas for you. Is any of this risky?  Yes.  But as many others have said, this isn't a no-risk business, especially when you're starting out.

on whether they are indy's (avoid) or agency girls.  If you know of a reliable agency and they bring in a new girl, you can be pretty sure she'll be up to snuff.  I've recently seen (and done a first review) for a really hot agency lady.  PM me for details if you'd like.

all providers will ask if you have seen other providers or are a member of these other sites.
such as date-check.com , preferred411.com, indys.com or from  R2SK  for your member id---..  i dont accept anyone without references.....good luck

IndianaProvider
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Screening and reviews are very different things.

Reviews say if she is a rip-off, and say what she is like.  They say she was LE-safe AT ONE TIME.  It says nothing about whether she was turned after a sting.

And if she does not screen it significantly increases the odds she will be the victim of a sting, therefor increase the odds she will be coerced to cooperate with LE.

Yes and no...

I have clients contact me on p411 and date-check all the time with 3-10+ "okays" from other providers. I e-mail 2 random providers and ask if he's a good client. The guy usually doesn't know this but I've already checked him out. However, if you are not contacting a lady from these websites(that require job and address verification) and she doesn't ask any reference questions I'd be concerned. If she's not concerned for HER safety she is not going to care about YOURS! She could be LE or just a bad provider who doesn't screen.(or a newbie)

Either way use this formula
No screening+No reviews=NO SEE!   simple!


Now that I know how to screen well I'm scared for all the providers out there who don't screen. I was a newbie once and didn't know any better. I was lucky nothing bad ever happened to me!

Not sure who you're disagreeing with, since nobody has said that screening and reviews are the same thing. However, flipped providers are far too rare a risk to override other, real world considerations IMO.

Thanks for the advice... i know it's not so risk free in the US but as im moving i guess i'll just have to take my chances, lol.... I have a great reputation where i am now and i'm very discreet never been in bother here in the UK but i think it's great that there are all these screening options over there and that people are so cautious. That means its just that bit safer for us ladies if we actually know who were seeing as apposed to Joe Bloggs, haha. I also have a website CompanionCasey but it's only the front page thats up just now as the rest is being re-done from uk to us and there are new pictures going in my gallery but it will be up and running before i arrive in the US.
In the UK you just have to trust your gut re gents and dates as there's no kind of screening involved over here so that part is a new challenge for me. As for an experienced reviewer TOFTT (that made me laugh) but on a  serious note im prepared to give my ccontact number in the UK out to anybody that hhas written numerous reviews on here and also to email pictures so they're aware i am real.... and i do have the outfits from my pictures so im more than happy to wear them on a date..... as that probably helps to determine that i 'am ME' but i don't think theres much else i can do to help people other than that.

Thanks again Casey xx

Changing one point of your story - if a lady has reviews, she might be screening in another way.

Without revealing my secrets, some guys go thru a form of "unorthodox" screening with me. They may not feel they are being screened, but they are. Like if he has reviews and contacts me PM. I might contact a couple ladies he has seen if they are friends of mine before he even has a chance to provide references.


As for what you are talking about - someone with no references, and no screening there are a few options.

1. LE
2. Doesn't care
3. Doesn't know better or is new

Any chance you could post a link to them?

Hi inicky im happy to email one or two over to people who have numerous reviews listed on here for other ladies and then once my site goes live properly you will be able to see alot more of my pictures. If anybody would like to get to know anymore about me befoe i jump across the pond. Feel free to private message me and then i can email you directly.

Thanks Casey xx