Newbie - FAQ

Lol!
Jack_Inhoff 2685 reads
posted
1 / 30

Over a month ago, I sent a provider a message through p411 expressing my interest in making an appointment with a provider, but I didn't say a specific date. A week goes by and I don't hear from her. So, I send her another message through her email outside of p411.  It's now been almost a month and still no reply. So, today, for the heck of it, I sent her one last email. In it, I expressed my interest in making an appointment if it was OK with her, but if she did not want to see me, I understand, but if she could let me know either way, I would really appreciate it.  Should I have just stopped after the second email?

Does anyone else get frustrated when providers don't reply to emails?  I get enough of this shit in the civie world. I'm in the hobby because I thought we're not supposed to deal with this kind of crap. If I wanted my emails not returned, I'd pursue conventional dating. Providers, I know you have the right to see who you want to see and not see who you don't want to see, and I want you to have that right. I wouldn't want you to see me if you don't want to see me, because the session would probably be terrible.  That being said, is it too much to ask for you to respond to emails letting us know that we do not qualify for an appointment with you?  Such a response is better than no response at all.

I apologize in advance that I sound like a whiny crybaby. Flame me if you want to.  And yes, I'm a newbie....at least I consider myself one.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 1070 reads
posted
2 / 30

Some do that just because they don't want to be confrontational.  Don't think that you are the only one who experiences this. Lot of guys, including myself, stumble upon women who won't return your emails. BFD..Just move on already...

Control what you can, and not worry about the one's you can't. and have the wisdom to know the difference..

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 1148 reads
posted
3 / 30

If you want to see her follow whatever procedure she prefers for booking and go ahead and book. This means pick a day and time, don't just tell her that you are interested.

If she still ignores you move on.

ROGM 1018 reads
posted
4 / 30

I would move on to another Provider. Just because one Provider doesn't respond to you don't get in a ruckus over it. Yeah it's annoying and frustrating, but there are so many other Providers out in the Market.

earthshined 1060 reads
posted
5 / 30

P411 will supposedly "discipline" the provider for not responding to appt.requests???

In my case, I didnt pursue it. I just moved on.

I feel ya though, it was worse not getting a response than not getting the appointment.

I got over it.  
Posted By: Jack_Inhoff
Over a month ago, I sent a provider a message through p411 expressing my interest in making an appointment with a provider, but I didn't say a specific date. A week goes by and I don't hear from her. So, I send her another message through her email outside of p411.  It's now been almost a month and still no reply. So, today, for the heck of it, I sent her one last email. In it, I expressed my interest in making an appointment if it was OK with her, but if she did not want to see me, I understand, but if she could let me know either way, I would really appreciate it.  Should I have just stopped after the second email?  
   
 Does anyone else get frustrated when providers don't reply to emails?  I get enough of this shit in the civie world. I'm in the hobby because I thought we're not supposed to deal with this kind of crap. If I wanted my emails not returned, I'd pursue conventional dating. Providers, I know you have the right to see who you want to see and not see who you don't want to see, and I want you to have that right. I wouldn't want you to see me if you don't want to see me, because the session would probably be terrible.  That being said, is it too much to ask for you to respond to emails letting us know that we do not qualify for an appointment with you?  Such a response is better than no response at all.  
   
 I apologize in advance that I sound like a whiny crybaby. Flame me if you want to.  And yes, I'm a newbie....at least I consider myself one.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 1134 reads
posted
6 / 30

I will quote Gambler...

"I will beg for p*ssy and I will pay for p*ssy, but I will never beg to pay for p*ssy."  

Move on.

sinfunforme 1041 reads
posted
7 / 30

I had a similar problem a while back.  Has your profile been viewed by her?  Is she even looking at your private messages sent directly on P411?  Are you following any instructions she has for making an appointment request?

I am in a very small market and don't have a lot of options.  I just let it go for a while, and would occasionally just send another private message on P411 expressing my interest.  I actually did finally get a response and have seen her a few times now.  She is still slow as can be in answering appointment requests (I better be asking about next week when I make an appointment request), though.  If she wasn't so damn hot and I was in even a medium sized market I would have moved on completely.

I attached a link to the thread I started when I had this problem.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 1269 reads
posted
8 / 30

There could be a thousand legit reasons for missing an email - spam filters come to mind as a culprit. So, I'll try once and give the lady a chance for a second contact. If no reply to contact number two I'll just move on.  
And yes, when it happened to me I whined on the boards about it, too!

swimtrekr 59 Reviews 1094 reads
posted
9 / 30

either for the first time or subsequent times will simply not respond to your inquiries.   If this is the case as it seems to be, it's time to move on.  There are plenty of others out there.  I found this out the hard way.

Swim

Jack_Inhoff 1042 reads
posted
10 / 30

London, well said. Yeah, I think I'm just going to move on.  She's just really fucking hot, so it's a little tougher than usual to move on, but move on, I must.  I probably shouldn't have sent her the message today. Hopefully that won't piss her off, but what's done is done. London, I know you have a tough, take-no-shit demeanor here on the boards, but I also get the impression that you are very professional and considerate of your clients and/or potential clients.  I just wish all providers would conduct their business in the same manner as you.

Jack_Inhoff 901 reads
posted
11 / 30
RonThibideaux 6 Reviews 1035 reads
posted
12 / 30

I've been getting similar results on p411.  I too am in a pretty small market...basically ~40 total Providers in my area on p411.  I went the Pre-Approval route on p411...and it just seems that this might not be the way to go.

Based on advice I got here, I finally just went for it and requested an actual date & time from a provider I was interested in.  I got results right away.

randall01 1047 reads
posted
13 / 30

Gina at p411 runs a pretty tight ship, and one of her dictums is people should respond to emails, even if there is no interest in taking the matter further. It seems like you have done things by the book, so write to her & explain your situation, methinks you will hear back....maybe a no, but atleast hear back.

I also echo what other folks have told you....its a big world out there, move on

Best luck

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 972 reads
posted
14 / 30

Well, yea ha ha. I can't be a total bitch ALL the time. Happy early 4th to you all!!!

Peppermint 901 reads
posted
15 / 30

Yes, it's annoying to not get a response.  Has happend to me about 5x actually...yet what I have found is that the provider is not getting the P411 requests.  Every time this happens I will send them a PM - for some reason they get the PM and then they get right back to me and say they never got the P411 request.  

I have complained about this to Gina and team and the basically come back with a canned response that the provider has 48 hours to respond, and that it may have gone to spam etc.  The thing is...many of these girls have said they don't get the request at all...not even in their spam folder.  

As the poster above suggested, try sending a PM.  You can see if they have read your PMs.  If you see that she read your PM and she still hasn't responded...then you know for sure that she isn't interested.  

Now, it's rude for providers to do this, and you could complain about this to P411 but it isn't worth it.  Just move on - PLENTY of other girls out there who know how to run their business.

Tabu See my TER Reviews 1070 reads
posted
16 / 30

for a specific date/time, and THEN she didn't respond...

You have to understand how many "Gee, you're pretty, I'd sure like to meet you sometime" messages we get. It takes a lot of time to respond to every piece of fan mail, wishful thinking queries ("Do you ever tour Sitka, Alaska?") and the vague expressions of interest that may NEVER pan out to a real appointment.

To save sanity (and have time to go the laundromat), lots of ladies wait for you make an actual request.. because that's where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.

Try asking for a real date, I bet you'll see a difference.

Tabu of S FL

 
Posted By: Bostonguy57
If you want to see her follow whatever procedure she prefers for booking and go ahead and book. This means pick a day and time, don't just tell her that you are interested.

If she still ignores you move on.

earthshined 1147 reads
posted
17 / 30

if she received a message from P411 that she wont respond to a particular client's request?

If it's one you havent seen before you can bet she'll be "booked every day for the next year" LOL!
 
Posted By: Phooka
Yes, it's annoying to not get a response.  Has happend to me about 5x actually...yet what I have found is that the provider is not getting the P411 requests.  Every time this happens I will send them a PM - for some reason they get the PM and then they get right back to me and say they never got the P411 request.  
   
 I have complained about this to Gina and team and the basically come back with a canned response that the provider has 48 hours to respond, and that it may have gone to spam etc.  The thing is...many of these girls have said they don't get the request at all...not even in their spam folder.  
   
 As the poster above suggested, try sending a PM.  You can see if they have read your PMs.  If you see that she read your PM and she still hasn't responded...then you know for sure that she isn't interested.    
   
 Now, it's rude for providers to do this, and you could complain about this to P411 but it isn't worth it.  Just move on - PLENTY of other girls out there who know how to run their business.

earthshined 1111 reads
posted
18 / 30

no provider on P411 that I've sent a "pre-screen" request has ever responded.

tg_baby 1001 reads
posted
19 / 30

make sure you read her ad, and check out her site as well. The answer might be there.  

For example, I don't do incall or 1-hours...I get TONS of messages from Eros and p411 guys saying, "love your pics!! I'd like to make an appt for April 1 at 5Pm for 1 hour, please let me know the general location of your incall."  

So it might be something like that...you're asking for something that she states on her site she doesn't do. I also get nervous when a guy doesn't state a specific length of time...9 times of 10, when I try to nail him down, he wants 'about' 1-hour, or even a half hour.  

For me personally, I'd at least answer your email...but some girls, if they are very busy, won't bother to do so if they think it won't pan out.

gracehadley See my TER Reviews 1028 reads
posted
20 / 30

Just to help troubleshoot- did you mention rates and/or services in your email? Personally if someone asks me about either before screening then the contact ends almost 100% of the time. So check her website and make sure your emails aren't mentioning something that might spook the providers. You mentioned you're a newbie- I'd guarantee if you did mention anything that sent a red flag, with no or limited references you will not get any response, ever.  

Posted By: Jack_Inhoff
Over a month ago, I sent a provider a message through p411 expressing my interest in making an appointment with a provider, but I didn't say a specific date. A week goes by and I don't hear from her. So, I send her another message through her email outside of p411.  It's now been almost a month and still no reply. So, today, for the heck of it, I sent her one last email. In it, I expressed my interest in making an appointmeRnt if it was OK with her, but if she did not want to see me, I understand, but if she could let me know either way, I would really appreciate it.  Should I have just stopped after the second email?  
   
 Does anyone else get frustrated when providers don't reply to emails?  I get enough of this shit in the civie world. I'm in the hobby because I thought we're not supposed to deal with this kind of crap. If I wanted my emails not returned, I'd pursue conventional dating. Providers, I know you have the right to see who you want to see and not see who you don't want to see, and I want you to have that right. I wouldn't want you to see me if you don't want to see me, because the session would probably be terrible.  That being said, is it too much to ask for you to respond to emails letting us know that we do not qualify for an appointment with you?  Such a response is better than no response at all.  
   
 I apologize in advance that I sound like a whiny crybaby. Flame me if you want to.  And yes, I'm a newbie....at least I consider myself one.

earthshined 1018 reads
posted
21 / 30

Posted By: gracehadley
Just to help troubleshoot- did you mention rates and/or services in your email? Personally if someone asks me about either before screening then the contact ends almost 100% of the time. So check her website and make sure your emails aren't mentioning something that might spook the providers. You mentioned you're a newbie- I'd guarantee if you did mention anything that sent a red flag, with no or limited references you will not get any response, ever.  
   
Posted By: Jack_Inhoff
Over a month ago, I sent a provider a message through p411 expressing my interest in making an appointment with a provider, but I didn't say a specific date. A week goes by and I don't hear from her. So, I send her another message through her email outside of p411.  It's now been almost a month and still no reply. So, today, for the heck of it, I sent her one last email. In it, I expressed my interest in making an appointmeRnt if it was OK with her, but if she did not want to see me, I understand, but if she could let me know either way, I would really appreciate it.  Should I have just stopped after the second email?  
     
  Does anyone else get frustrated when providers don't reply to emails?  I get enough of this shit in the civie world. I'm in the hobby because I thought we're not supposed to deal with this kind of crap. If I wanted my emails not returned, I'd pursue conventional dating. Providers, I know you have the right to see who you want to see and not see who you don't want to see, and I want you to have that right. I wouldn't want you to see me if you don't want to see me, because the session would probably be terrible.  That being said, is it too much to ask for you to respond to emails letting us know that we do not qualify for an appointment with you?  Such a response is better than no response at all.  
     
  I apologize in advance that I sound like a whiny crybaby. Flame me if you want to.  And yes, I'm a newbie....at least I consider myself one.

SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 974 reads
posted
22 / 30

No client who has ever sent me a pre-screen request has ever booked. :D

1192967 45 Reviews 934 reads
posted
23 / 30

Read the general details & juicy details of her reviews. Read her web site. Back channel with some of her recent reviewers. This is where you get the answers. Some things you have to wait until the first visit to find out.  

There are some providers that are ok with more specific questions after passing screening but you can't be sure the one you're dealing with is one of them. Some will say it on their web site though.

With things like greek, rimming, etc it could still be a ymmv thing because she has to actually see you to know if she will with you.

Summary: Do your research. Reviews, backchannel, web site, etc.
Go knowing she offers it but it's still ymmv.
Talk about it with her BCD (but not first thing once in the door) do it if she says ok or do it next session if preparation is required.

-- Modified on 7/4/2013 10:03:01 PM

nahtynikkey See my TER Reviews 1032 reads
posted
24 / 30

LOL...yup. Out of the 10-or-so "pre-screen" requests I have gotten, only one has ever booked...but I did respond to every one.  

Posted By: SoftlySarah
No client who has ever sent me a pre-screen request has ever booked. :D

HeathersLuv4u See my TER Reviews 871 reads
posted
25 / 30

I would've been tossed off long ago...no doubt..ha
If what you state was true, we'd spend all day relying to the assclown-fantasy booker-time waster-self entitled crowd.
Also, sending an appt req when the lady clearly is unavailable based on her calendar/website/advert, may garner you little attention as well....jus sayin.
"Rules" does not mean you own another human being or you're owed anything....period

earthshined 960 reads
posted
26 / 30

if she doesnt do greek and it's on her site a client shouldnt have to ask.

Posted By: xyz23
Read the general details & juicy details of her reviews. Read her web site. Back channel with some of her recent reviewers. This is where you get the answers. Some things you have to wait until the first visit to find out.  
   
 There are some providers that are ok with more specific questions after passing screening but you can't be sure the one you're dealing with is one of them. Some will say it on their web site though.  
   
 With things like greek, rimming, etc it could still be a ymmv thing because she has to actually see you to know if she will with you.  
   
 Summary: Do your research. Reviews, backchannel, web site, etc.  
 Go knowing she offers it but it's still ymmv.  
 Talk about it with her BCD (but not first thing once in the door) do it if she says ok or do it next session if preparation is required.

-- Modified on 7/4/2013 10:03:01 PM

earthshined 1049 reads
posted
27 / 30

dont use the prescreen feature. just book the appointment

1192967 45 Reviews 1030 reads
posted
28 / 30

Yes, obviously if it (her site) says no greek then asking wouldn't be necessary. I thought that was obvious. Which supports my premise to do your research. My example was for when it says greek is available or if a review mentions it or Her profile does but her site doesn't. Since you asked "when" can you ask those types of questions I merely gave examples. The point is ask after you are with her. Use other methods to find out before hand.  

Posted By: earthshined
if she doesnt do greek and it's on her site a client shouldnt have to ask.  
   
Posted By: xyz23
Read the general details & juicy details of her reviews. Read her web site. Back channel with some of her recent reviewers. This is where you get the answers. Some things you have to wait until the first visit to find out.    
     
  There are some providers that are ok with more specific questions after passing screening but you can't be sure the one you're dealing with is one of them. Some will say it on their web site though.  
     
  With things like greek, rimming, etc it could still be a ymmv thing because she has to actually see you to know if she will with you.  
     
  Summary: Do your research. Reviews, backchannel, web site, etc.  
  Go knowing she offers it but it's still ymmv.  
  Talk about it with her BCD (but not first thing once in the door) do it if she says ok or do it next session if preparation is required.  
   
 -- Modified on 7/4/2013 10:03:01 PM

earthshined 974 reads
posted
29 / 30

this is one problem with P411. not always clear whether a travelling  provider is still around or not.

Posted By: HeathersLuv4u
I would've been tossed off long ago...no doubt..ha  
 If what you state was true, we'd spend all day relying to the assclown-fantasy booker-time waster-self entitled crowd.  
 Also, sending an appt req when the lady clearly is unavailable based on her calendar/website/advert, may garner you little attention as well....jus sayin.  
 "Rules" does not mean you own another human being or you're owed anything....period.  
 

rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 1214 reads
posted
30 / 30

There is a lot of truth to the old saying 'I'll beg for sex and I'll even pay for sex, but I'll never beg to pay for sex."

--  as London (and Gambler) said --probably would have helped to read the entire thread but my ADHD got in the -- ok, I will beg for adderall, I will  

-- Modified on 7/6/2013 9:10:28 AM

Register Now!