Veterans of this sport, please let me know if my reasoning makes sense: why would a gentleman bring a gift (wine, champagne, candles, flowers, candy, clothing, etc) to a provider? We're really not trying to "wine and dine" the ladies as if on a real date....the entire purpose of hobbying is that it's a fantasy (paid for) encounter where intimacy is already expected from both parties. Does bringing a gift make you feel that you'll get some extra special attention from the ladies? and what if she doesn't meet your expectations? then you'll feel like a fool for lugging around that gift. Remember that hobbying is not like picking up a girl for a "real" date. If you had a good time, I'm sure a nice tip would be just as appreciated. Bringing a gift just seems so gay and pathetic and may seem like you're trying to establish a "real-life" relationship. We have to remember it's just a business....don't be a sucker! If I had an exceptionally good experience, I would give a nice tip rather than giving a present before-hand. I think common sense would tell us that $$ is preferred over a bottle of wine. I can't imagine a true hobbyist showing up for appts bearing gifts...it's not like she's going to become your real girlfriend! Ladies, what do you say? And if you really prefer gifts over $$ (in the form of a nice tip) and do treat gift-bearers with more TLC, I'd like to know. Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it If I were a provider and had to pick between two regular clients, one who usually gives an exceptionally generous donation and one who regularly brings a gift also, I'd go with the $$ every time. Can you imagine jeopcon bringing presents to each of his encounters? I'm laughing just thinking about that
You're right, it's a fantasy. A provider is an imaginary GF so I treat her like a girlfriend. I never bring a gift on the first date; I need to get to know her and know what she likes.
I treat my ATF whom I see regularly like a GF. I I don't bring gift everytime but only on special occasions; rather than buying, I would make things and do things for her. When I visit I always bring food; most of the time we eat together. I get her gifts on her birthdays and Christmas. By the way I've never brought flowers and chocolates. That reminds me, I should pick a few flowers from my garden.
"Bringing a gift just seems so gay and pathetic" Wow!
You answered your own question as to why. This is about fantasy. Some men like to bring small tokens of their appreciation simply to see the smile that will come when we open that box of chocolate, light that hand-picked incense or candle, open that bottle of wine. It in no way implies that they are trying to establish "real" partnership/relationships, I would never assume as much. It is simply a nice personal touch that they are walking in the door with.
I've always thought it a nice touch as long as the gifts are simple and inexpensive. The best for me are CD's be they burned collections of favorites or the works of a particular artist. I like to be exposed to music I might not otherwise, and find it a nice entry into the psyche of another to hear what they resonate with.
Gifts are never expected. They can be very nice and add to the ambience and indulgence of an evening. It is not pathetic to be appreciative and sweet, even in a business transaction.
a friend’s house for dinner wouldn’t you bring wine or flowers? Now, I’m a little different than most b/c I see one lady exclusively for months. I always give her jewelry on occasions like Valentines her birthday etc. and I always tip. Now I am under no illusion that the relationship is anything more than what it is but I have become friends with some ladies. If a gift is given with expectations of an act then it’s not a gift it’s a bribe. No, I’m not a sucker just a generous guy that can afford it. If you are bouncing around from gal to gal it’s not appropriate to give a gift
...would be wasted, but I'll give it a try. Here goes. You ready? KINDNESS GOES A LONG WAY! Not only that, but it's a great ice breaker.
Moe, ask a provider who she'd rather repeat with if both were trying to schedule for the same time: A) a really good looking guy who had NO personality, but was clean and left a $50 tip or B) an average looking guy who was sweet, funny & charming (also clean) and presented a $50 gift card to a store like Victoria's Secret?
Moe, I don't bring bulky gifts or try to guess what size/style clothes someone wants or what fragrances they like. I find out what they like and then deliver the goods. Trust me, it goes A LONG WAY!
I completely agree and I will go with guy number two just because of the fact that he is a nice guy to do that kind of thing in the first place. Not to mention acknowleging that providers are woman first and like to be treated nicely.
this makes sense.....I never thought of it that way. Maybe I should not think that this is just a cold business transaction. You're right...kindness in any walk of life does go a long way. Glad you posted although I am somewhat intelligent and I might have figured this out on my own
I couldn't approach this hobby if it was a cold business transaction. For "it" to work for me, there must be a connection. While the ladies I have chosen were first based on the physical attraction, I would see how well we clicked at the start of the "date". I have met 4 ladies and didn't hit it off with only 1 of them (she wasn't bad and many good reviews, I don't care for a lady that curses like a sailor) . Now, I am an old fashioned kind of guy and always treat the lady with the utmost respect. I don't give a compliment I don't mean and give her 100% my heart (for the hour I'm there). I am not looking for a long list of conquests, but I want that GFE. I am planning on seeing 1 or 2 ladies on a regular basis. I have purchased a small gift for my ATF for our next date. NOW I do not kid myself, when the date is over: she has her life and I have mine. That doesn't take away from the fact she is a beautiful caring woman and I love to treat them that way!
I must say, I agree with jjackflash wholeheartedly. We must all remember, these providers are real people, whats more, they are women with feelings. No, you are not their Romeo, but you expect them to be your Juliet, so showing a little thoughtfulness never hurts with any woman.
If you don't plan on seeing her again, whats nice is when they start giving you gifts, I've been given lots of gifts by PSE's, extra hrs for the 1 hr price, free sessions, free meals, invitations to partys, invitations to porn sets, Porn DVDs, a portable DVD player, a clock, a TV set, clothing, free access to their web site, a $600 telescope, 1 dozen roses sent to my office, copies of AVN magazine, I even had a PSE give me a car, it was a used car, a Honda and it ran and my kid needed a car and it fit the bill. It never hurts to bring a gift.
I always get homemade tamales at Christmas and I have received a clock radio and a printer for my digital camera and many more things that I can't remember.
Nothing elaborate or all that expensive, just something to say I put some thought into this visit.
The most appreciated gift I have given was "intermission wear". There is a certain lady I like to visit in Phoenix. Our encounters are usually 2 hours. We are both smokers, and she used to share an incall location with a non-smoker, which meant a trip outside. Now seeing a hot woman in a neglige smoking on the steps can be sexy, but not all that discreet. The 2nd time I saw her, I brought along a "cute" matching top and shorts from Target. Anyone seeing us smoking on the stairs, would not automaticlly, rightly, assume what we have been up to.
I feel that if you really appreciate someone and DESIRE to gift them, DO IT! I am very very giving and I love to give little gifts to my special clients. I appreciate them. Maybe I will see something that is soooo "Them"... If it is not a Porsche ( lol ) I get it for them. So see? It is not about the gift itsself, but what is in the heart and what we do to show our appreciation. It is an individual choice of course and varies person to person. Maggie
Maggie, I agree, my AFT is always asking me if I'd like this or that. Lately, she's been giving me vitamins, and making sure I stay healthy. I mail her gift cards to local stores in between our visits. I often tell her that "she is the other woman in my life" and I know she likes it that way. I do too!
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If I were a provider and had to pick between two regular clients, one who usually gives an exceptionally generous donation and one who regularly brings a gift also, I'd go with the $$ every time. Can you imagine jeopcon bringing presents to each of his encounters? I'm laughing just thinking about that