You are correct i do feel we should be kind to each other , yes.
I do not visit here on the newbie board usually because i find newbies kind of difficult to read and be As nice to as I am to people who has learned their way around i suppose .
I admit perfect i am not at all . Common sense is just so uncommon it seems . It is Really frightening to me how easily our playground can turn into a dump though .
What i mean by that Is if we all went BB we would all have some serious issues here .
I fear disease because i have given it some thought.
I know the risks of BB I do not want some girl to come in here and hurt herself or me or you .
Intent is not important in that situation .
She could mean well and still have problems , its not karma related . A girl maybe thinks it is a good idea to go BB i get upset that same young girl could be dead in a few years if no one yells at her . I think i did something nice really , clearly i was heard .
Sometimes tough love is not the worst thing .
I am not trying to be mean i am trying to say the truth and i find it amazing . Imagine how many variations of disease she would expose herself to being a professional and going BB everyday or week? Seriously. Hopefully she doesn't do it .
Hopefully she screens her clients , protects herself as well as them in all possible ways including wearing protection .
Let's hope because we are swimming in the same pool as she is . I
apologize if i offended you . I do have a sensitive spot , yes for girls with zero experience coming into the sex industry and not knowing what is a safe situation and what is not .
If she does not know that she needs a condom maybe she doesn't know she needs to screen either or to do some other important thing like not call you like ever because you maybe with your wife or some other thing the list goes on . Common sense is Very uncommon sadly , it frustrates me . Kendall lynn
Hi, I'm planning on escorting this Spring/Summer and before I just hop into the escort world I would like to know if I require the use of condoms for FS would that effect business?
My rate will be 400 per hour (I'm in Southern California btw) Does most providers in the 400-500 range use protection or is everything raw?
Thanks
given how dangerous it is in terms of spreading disease.
You should keep your personal health and protection as utmost importance if you want to be well thought of in this business.
That goes for screening potential clients too.
I suggest reading the Newbie/Self Help Manual you'll find linked on this page and doing some research on these subjects.
That may be treatable or lethal, nonetheless contagious.. Also many many guys won't see you if they suspect you at doing BBFS.. Please be careful... Your health should be worth more than a few hundreds..
I would never consider bbfs. Your health should be your priority especially in this business. Take a look at other girls that have similar looks and stats to you to get a feel for pricing.
I would avoid a provider offering BBFS out of concern she is reckless, dangerous, and unconcerned about her health.
THat's nuts.. Uhhh.. did the 80's never happen?.. Did I lose 23 friends to HIV for nothing? I thought this was a lesson that was learned along time ago.. .. this has to be a troll post.. No one could be that naive..
Sorry, but back in the early 70's I was an actor.. had a ton of gay friends.. From time to time , the name of one will swim into my head.. I google them to see what they are doing.. and almost every time.. I get a hit on their name.. on the Quilt project for those that died of HIV.. BBFS is really stupid and nothing to fool with..
pages here on the Newbie Board.
By reading the board you will find the desire for hobbyists to remain safe. This means guys want to see providers who screen before dates and spend time with providers who consider their and their date's health a priority. BJ's can be either covered or uncovered depending on both the guy's preference and your choice, even though most guys prefer BBBJ. FS should always be covered.
Lastly, let me suggest you do not compromise your standards both in screening and in services offered. If you don't want to do "X", then don't--regardless of what some guy says of offers as extra $.
Thanks everyone and no, this is not a "troll" post. I asked this question because I was reading on another escort board and I've noticed a lot of girls offering unsafe- basically anything for under 200 and I was curious what a woman in the mid range would offer
Yes always covered. I noticed some ladies in porn biz do offer BBFS at a higher price especially if both parties showed recent test results ( verifiable with an online link so that it can't be tampered). Even those who aren't PS do offer these in the heat of the moment lol
I haven't done BBFS with a provider cuz I don't want to risk it but some do offer it. Not a good idea though.
before HIV. It was civie dating & all uncovered back then.
That was a long time ago. Some guys will always try for BBFS but it's really expected to be covered.
It's not really about your price point, it's about your personal feelings about risk.
As far as who is offering what - there are women at every price point who choose to offer BBFS for a variety of reasons - maybe they have low self esteem, or maybe they have allowed themselves to be pushed into it. Maybe they feel it will bring them more $$ or more clients. Or maybe they just feel invincible, or maybe they just like it better themselves.
There is risk involved even if everything is covered; you have to decide how much risk you are willing to take and be comfortable with it. BBBJ is one thing, BBFS is another. DON'T decide because someone here tells you what is "common"; PLEASE decide based on your own accptable level of risk.
Offering female condoms will please many potential clients.
Girls who charge 4-5 an hr get it because they rock have rockin reviews and are pretty , guys like being with them and they have their act together . Surely it isn't because of Bare back they are getting that .
Please do not consider doing Bare back . Please , the risk you would be putting yourself and others in is beyond tragic and some things your just can not get rid of .
Imagine finding you had contracted HIV and knowing you had not only gotten it yourself but in fact had then unknowingly exposed every other guy you had ever been with to it as well .
Imagine having to tell them , imagine their kids with no dad , imagine them not knowing if you didn't have the balls to tell them and them infecting every other girl flaky enough to go bare back .
Try to imagine being the beginning of all of the pain and suffering that can and will come with an irreversible issue such as that .
Imagine if you would having your mom bury you instead of the other way around . Imagine the respect you will receive from guys who know you do not respect yourself or your health , family and others enough to be safe in your practices .
Honestly i don't think you should provide at all .Not to sound like a total B*tch here but Personally i think you are a danger and risk to all of us as a community . Please find a regular job if you need money ill send you some please don't PEE IN MY POOL!! Unreal. kendall lynn , and this is why i do not visit this board holy crap
this is a newbie board and I feel better that she asked rather than not ask. The danger would be someone who was too clueless to know he/she needed help. I am sure that she is not the first, or the last, to have such a thought. I would say that this occasion illustrates, if anything, that this lady would be better off with a mentor to walk her through issues that she has no common sense for. If she's going to stay in the business, that is. It should be her decision not because of your advice today. Because free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it...
I presume this is a sensitive issue for you. Otherwise, frankly, I do think you sound like the "B" word. I'm really surprised because of your reputation for staying above the fray. Again, I have to presume some extraordinary circumstances or sensitivity to this topic. Because I remember your post on the regional board to be kind to each other when possible.
Please do not consider doing Bare back . Please , the risk you would be putting yourself and others in is beyond tragic and some things your just can not get rid of .
Imagine finding you had contracted HIV and knowing you had not only gotten it yourself but in fact had then unknowingly exposed every other guy you had ever been with to it as well .
Imagine having to tell them , imagine their kids with no dad , imagine them not knowing if you didn't have the balls to tell them and them infecting every other girl flaky enough to go bare back .
Try to imagine being the beginning of all of the pain and suffering that can and will come with an irreversible issue such as that .
Imagine if you would having your mom bury you instead of the other way around . Imagine the respect you will receive from guys who know you do not respect yourself or your health , family and others enough to be safe in your practices .
Honestly i don't think you should provide at all .Not to sound like a total B*tch here but Personally i think you are a danger and risk to all of us as a community . Please find a regular job if you need money ill send you some please don't PEE IN MY POOL!! Unreal. kendall lynn , and this is why i do not visit this board holy crap
You are correct i do feel we should be kind to each other , yes.
I do not visit here on the newbie board usually because i find newbies kind of difficult to read and be As nice to as I am to people who has learned their way around i suppose .
I have kind of always not liked newbies , i hate to say but it is true , sorry guys .
I admit perfect i am not at all . Common sense is just so uncommon it seems .
It is Really frightening to me how easily our playground can turn into a dump though .
What i mean by that Is if we all went BB we would all have some serious issues here .
I fear disease because i have given it some thought.
I know the risks of BB I do not want some girl to come in here and hurt herself or me or you .
Intent is not important in that situation .
She could mean well and still have problems , its not karma related .
A girl maybe thinks it is a good idea to go BB i get upset that same young girl could be dead in a few years if no one yells at her . I think i did something nice really , clearly i was heard .
Sometimes tough love is not the worst thing .
I am not trying to be mean i am trying to say the truth and i find it amazing .
Imagine how many variations of disease she would expose herself to being a professional and going BB everyday or week? Seriously. Hopefully she doesn't do it .
Hopefully she screens her clients , protects herself as well as them in all possible ways including wearing protection .
Let's hope because we are swimming in the same pool as she is . I
apologize if i offended you .
I do have a sensitive spot , yes for girls with zero experience coming into the sex industry and not knowing what is a safe situation and what is not .
If she does not know that she needs a condom maybe she doesn't know she needs to screen either or to do some other important thing like not call you like ever because you maybe with your wife or some other thing the list goes on . Common sense is Very uncommon sadly , it frustrates me . Kendall lynn
still a fraction of the price for your services.
I'm sure you've got it now... from both providers & hobbiests... FS is expected to be covered. There is much you can learn by reading back on this board & the self help section... & it's FREE except for your time.
Another thing to think about...When one or a few women start offering BBFS, more women will follow suit. It will create a "culture" (for lack of a better word) of women that provide it. When that happens, women who don't offer it will suffer financially. When it becomes the norm, we're all gonna die.
Seriously, it makes it hard for the safe girls when clients give us a hard time about it. I think it's a thing down here in Atlanta because I've gotten asked (not TER guys, BP guys). And, when they keep pushing and begging, it is very difficult to remain pleasant, sexy and be genuinely cheerful because I'm having to be the bad guy. And, frankly it ruins the freaking mood for me because I'm a hedonist as well.
It's bad news all around, for everyone. If they like skin-to-skin, offer your tits and thighs (and feet if they're into that). If a condom makes him soft after a bit, just go back to BBBJ and then try again or offer skin to skin with your other parts. You can very easily catch warts and herpes from doing the "stripper slide" too, so keep that in mind.
Of course, the biggest fear is HIV because you will die. But, two other incurable (and sometimes invisible diseases) are HPV (warts) and HSV (herpes). A gentleman might be wealthy enough to afford a 400 provider, but he can't pay a virus to stay away, know what I mean jelly bean?
Stay safe, Ivy. xoxo