As a newbe, I am obviously concerned about LE along with everything else.  I understand the risk with seeing someone for escort services but what about meeting someone for a massage?  In my mind I would like to think there is much less risk since you don't need to ask for anything.  You just go in, get on the table and just let it happen.   Am I off base here?  What about w boards, could that be a better way to meet someone for the first time?  Are there any risks that I'm missing? Advice?
 

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Your safest route is to do your research...read the reviews, and know who you're making an appointment with.

In some locations (NY State; others please?), therapeutic massage can only be performed by someone who is licensed by the state to perform massage.  

Those who are unlicensed and foolishly advertise "Massage" or similar are easy marks for LE to bust.  

A sexual services sting can be more difficult, require more evidence, proof that money changed hands, more work and so on.  

To get around the "massage" issue, many places will advertise "body rub" or similar.  If you are in a "massage" parlor and LE walks in to bust the unlicensed massager, you might be in an embarrassing position. You might just be a witness, fully dressed, nothing sexual happening, name taken to testify for the prosecution. Of course, you might be in a more compromising position but it's unlikely that it's worth their effort to collect a DNA sample and haul you in, too.  

"Body rub" places won't attract the EASY "illegal massage parlor" busts but will be a potential target for any other sting.  

In NY State, if you want to see someone for "therapeutic massage" plus extras, make sure that they are licensed, if required by law. If you want to see someone for "massage with a happy ending" look for a place that doesn't ADVERTISE "massage" per se but might advertise "body rub" or other euphemism

That makes a lot of sense.  

 What do you think about women who post on boards in the escort section and the body rub section.  So not a massage parlor.  More like a hotel room where she performs a massage / rub.  In that situation, is it less risky to ask to meet for a rub?  Since you don't have to ask for service...  and then allow her to make the leap?  I guess one risk is that you only get a rub...     if you get naked and lie on the table is that sgains the law?   Again, I haven't asked her for anything at that point.  

 

Suffice it to say, LE will often bust people for things that are legal.  Their aim isn't to make a charge stick in court, but to harass people.

You may end up with someone who is a more or less "legit" massage person, and therefore waste your time and money (unless you genuinely enjoy massage.)

Also, don't be complacent by the offering of body rubs, or bodywork.  Many locals are tightening up their language on this to include them in statutes regarding licensing, etc.

As others have said, your best protection is to stick to well reviewed providers

Like mrfisher, I'm "still not a lawyer," either. But that doesn't stop me from giving free legal advice!  

From board discussions, people seem to think that there is a low probability that LE will bust the occasional hotel room body rubber (incall). They need a warrant and can't just break down a door because she has a visitor. At some hotel/motels, desk management might harass her for having too many guests and even ask her to leave or threaten to call the cops.  

There was a fairly recent case in New Hampshire, I think, where a Zumba instructor was providing body rubs+ outside of class hours at her dance studio (a business setting). I think they built up a strong case over a long period of time and then arrested her. (Did they ever publicize her client list?) They did not just bust down the door to see what was going on when the last Zumba guy didn't exit the premises within 10 minutes of the end of the lesson.

Like mrfisher and others says, stick with well reviewed providers

Its not what your planning or hoping to happen that's illegal. Its the act of trading something of value for sex. So it seems like it wouldn't matter if you were there for a massage or modeling or a session. Best bet is to do research, see reviewed girls.

LMT has Medical code of conduct & will lose license for violations.  Even too many buttons undone.  Revealing attire?  No locks on doors.    
In addition there are business, zoning, emergency exit/fire safety & commercial premisis alarms codes.  There was a FBSM practioner here who was caught by code enforcement before any massage began.  The violations were fined very heavily & generally too costly to correct.  The goal is to encourage FBSM practioners to leave the jurisdiction.  
   
In my area, (RI) there's currectly a move to define "Body Rubs" & impose similar regulations on practitioners.  

I don't thnk the customer's risk is as high because they literally have to catch you in the act.  Up until that point, you claim "nothing happened".

That makes sence with respect to masssge parlors but how about women who offer body rubs independently?  I guess my question is, does LE ever try to set up a bust, posing as a woman offering body rubs instead of escorts.  And if they did, is someone getting naked and laying on a table enough to convict.  From there, the woman has a choice whether to go down or not, I would think.  And if she doest, it seems like no laws have been broken. Any thoughts?

but it is at least conceivable.

It depends of the vagaries of state laws, some laws are so broad that you could get busted for holding hands with someone.  Generally however, any act that exposes the privates (and that can include ta-tas) to another party runs afoul of prostitution laws.  And even if you try to stay legal, that won't necessarily dissuade LE from trying to bust you anyways.

(still not a lawyer)