Posted By: OhCharlie
I have done sales for pretty much my entire working life, so I'm used to haggling. It doesn't bother me on a personal level to get those emails. However, one to four hour appointments with an escort is not really the place, in my opinion. Yes, this is a service, but its not one that can be clearly priced based on what's rendered, making negotiating kind of tricky anyways - you can't even really say why you want a discount, as it's illegal to say much other than "I don't have the money". Discussing pricing in general makes a lot of girls a little uneasy anyways, let alone full on negotiation. Plus, it is very insulting to a girl to email her and essentially say, "hey, I checked you out, and even though everyone else agrees you're worth it, and even though I've never met you, I've already decided your time is worth less than that". Now, I KNOW this isn't what people are generally trying to say, but when asked in the first few emails by a new client, that's how it will usually come across, whether they meant it to or not.
And then, there is a consistency among clients that ask for discounts on short appointments early on, and back when I would see someone like that anyways (agency, not a ton of choice), they would usually end up on my "do not see list" for one reason or another. They want all the activities, they want to degrade you, they want to stay over, they want services you don't offer, they want to whine some more about your rates.... Just generally very self important and entitled. I will never forget my old agency owner giving some jackass who'd scared her into thinking he was a "big deal" on TER huuuge discounts, literally putting our rates on par with backpage crack heads. And of course, he preyed on the new girls who were already cheap, telling us all that bareback was the norm (and not afraid to be sneaky to get his way), that some of the top girls saw him for a song, and that he'd write us a "great review", which only sometimes came and, if you put him in his place, would be downright insulting. In my experience, clients that initiate a conversation with the request for a discount fall closer to this skeeze, than any gentleman I would want to meet. I can only imagine that many other girls have found this to be true, and choose not to deal with negotiators at all.
Of course, there IS a way to ask without being insulting. The first step is seeing the lady at her established rate, preferably several times. An established client who basically says "I want to keep seeing you/see you more, is there any kind of recurring setup we could do/come to my house so no hotel to pay for/package blah blah blah" may actually get a response from her, and a girl might work with him, depending on his needs, suggestions, and if he is really that good of a client. Ie, he's always been a consistent regular, respectful, fun to be around, etc etc. Tread lightly though, as it can easily drift back into paragraph 1 territory, lol!
The other way to gently negotiate is if a lady raises her rates after you have seen her, and there is a possibility that you could be grandfathered in. Again, this may not happen for a one or even two time client, but someone who is consistent and easy to get along with may have some luck if they discovered a girl early in her career. I would not suggest this route if its been more than six months since you last met, or if you've only met once or twice and she's been in your city plenty of times since then without a word from you. Of course, you could always hint at it in this case, but you run the risk of looking like a cheapskate from P1 or 2 if you just flat out ask after its been a while or you haven't established much of a relationship. A simple "I noticed you had different rates listed, wanted to make sure I got you the right amount!" Will generally be enough to prompt a girl to let you know if you've been grandfathered in.
Longer appointments have a little more leeway though, I think. For example, if you're willing to shell out for a sweet ass trip with your ATF, I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "with all the activities/shopping/tours/whatever planned, I don't know how comfortable I am with an additional X amount. Would Y (within reason) work for you?". If you can do X, but need to eliminate fun stuff, let her know. If you really can only do Y, then still let her know. Longer appointments are more case by case it seems with pricing, and fun stuff might be enough to make her say a lower rate is a fair trade. When you're at the point where you two feel comfortable enough to travel or spend extended amounts of time together, you can kind of assume a little more wiggle room than someone booking a shorter appointment, and certainly more than a first time client.
Bottom line, don't try to negotiate if you haven't met the girl, and be kind about it if you have. If you approach it in a respectful manner, that shows us that you're genuinely not trying to be a cheap ass, we are much happier to keep a good regular around than go through the whole process of finding one all over again. But if you send a "woe is me, you're so expensive" email, don't expect much of a response from most. And if you do manage to get a discount? Don't make her regret it. Because you will be one of the first to be cut from the roster if you do
Char
I agree. I only inquire about discounts if the lady has posted them on here or p411 in the past or if I know her and am requesting a 12+ hour date or if the lady has recently increased her rate structure.