For FS incall what's the deal?

usually FS/ incall means that all the companionship services are included in the donation.  however, tipping is a nice way to show a provider that you really like and appreciate any *extra* service, or that you just really liked the session above and beyond the normal level of satisfaction.  she will also most likely remember your extra generosity in the matter and give you phenomenal service the next time!
there were several posts a few weeks back about the subject.  i'll try to find the thread when i get some time later this evening.
take care, happy hobbying!
Sydney

It's just that, as (I think she calls herself An Interesting Woman, on TER) pointed out, sometimes we can't take that stuff home with us.  And some of us are diabetic or don't eat sweets.

It is the thought that counts, no doubt about it.  And I'm not saying NO gifts, either-- that is up to you and her.  But if she really can't use or keep the gift you give her, it's your money down the drain.  I don't know about you, but I don't like to throw away MY hard-earned cash!!!

Plus, it's not as hard to hide money from the kids or husband (if she has to hide it) as it is to hide a bouquet.

You don't have to tip, ever, but it really is nice- and it guarantees that she will like the gift she gets from you, because she picked it out!

**If you have an ATF you might consider just asking her which she prefers; this may be a little awkward, but if she's lucky enough to be your ATF then she will be flattered you even thought of it.  I promise.

Hope that helps.

=^.^=
Sydney

On the surface they do seem to be a wonderful gift, but it can often be a problem.  Even if just one gent a week brought a boquet to a ladies incall location, how long do you think it would take neighbours to pick up on what type of business was going on?  Most ladies expect discretion (as we provide to you), and flowers are a sure fire way to draw unnecessarry attention.

I realize that the thought is wonderful, but the fact remains that flowers for the most part cause people in the elevator, lobby or entrance way to take notice.  We don't want anybody to notice you when you walk in.  We would rather you just blend in with everybody else.

As for the original posters question - I don't think that tipping is necessarry for any independant.  I'm sure that any lady would appreciate any gratuity which you chose to leave, but we would never expect it.  We will remember you for your personality, the conversations we have, if you make us laugh, if you give us a good massage, if you connect with us.  In other words, we remember you for who you are, not for your pocketbook.  I think that will hold true for most ladies.

Rebel Yell is right that small gifts can be a nice touch (if they are brought in discreetly), but again they are not necessarry.  If you don't know the lady well, make sure that it is something very small, as I do know of some girls who have boyfriends, so they toss out any gifts, flowers, cards and any other evidence that another man was there.  If you know the lady well, and you are familiar with her situation and preferences, than a more personal gift may be alright.  But again, none of this is expected.

The best way to leave a good impression is be clean, courteous, on time, respectful and have fun.  Just be yourself, and the lady will remember you for your personality and the great time you had together.  You don't need to bribe your way into our memories

I once had a OTF that was a lady, very sensous and lovely.
She was very good at what she did and she did most everything.
On my third visit to her I brought her a dozen roses and a thank you type greeting card. She never opened the card or even said thank you. She also basically threw the roses on a table. I was so pi$$$ed that I was not able to get an erection. I was not falling for her but was truly enjoying her company and obvious talents. I have scratched her off my ATF list and if I decide to try to do something extra for a lady it will be in the form of a monetary tip.
Am I wrong to feel this way?
Thanks for your imput.

It's probably not a good idea to bring a gift the first time you meet for the reasons that the ladies have stated. However, once you get to know someone, it's a different. I have given such things as earrings, her favorite beverage...in one case, her favorite (hard to find) lube.

thirsty

My ATF once told me, I was her gift. Not bragging, I just think it has more to do with the way you treat her rather than what you give in material goods. I never tip, but I always show how much I appreciate her. There are many ways.....

-- Modified on 2/13/2004 5:33:16 PM

I can see some of the points of view, but if a guy uses his head, he can bring a large batch of flowers to a house or apartment without anyone getting wise. For example, I see escorts in Vancouver about 99% of the time I hobby. People, this is not rocket science, I buy them usually at the "BAY", and the person working there bags them up so it looks like a regular satchel. I them bring them to my escort as soon as the time comes with no stares. Escorts are doing what they do because theymade that choice. If they are worried about what other people think, and if they have husbands or boyfriends; which are few and far between anyways and never 100% a healthy relationship. than they are in the wrong field IMHO. I never ever blew an escort's cover, where I grew up a rat is the lowest thing. So I use the flower bit for a few SPs at my discretion. For one of my escorts in Vancouver, I'm not going to say who, it has paid of 10 fold. However, I'm not looking for a relationship, only seeing friendship.I'm careful, and respect the lady even if she chooses not to take flowers. I play it by ear.

Excellent advice Sydney. For outcall appts., I always tell the lady that I want to be a "good host" and ask her what she drinks, favorite flower, chocolates Y or N, etc.  Thoughtfulness sometimes goes much further than $.

.

Besides, they are all Asian, and you can't go wrong their.

I don't understand the concept of giving flowers to escorts. Give me a break!! I think men should give flowers to a woman that he loves. That's what flowers are for, not for an escort that you pay. If I was the escort and you gave me flowers, then i'd think you're a total loser. I hope i'm not offending anybody; I think "the flower idea" is very lame.

Talk about a lame statement. If this statement were true, a lot of florists would go out of business.

Generally speaking, women love flowers. I've run into a lot of women in the business who would never receive flowers were it not for thoughtful customers.

thirsty

From LOTS of experience giving flowers, I think they are as close as it comes to the universally appropriate gift.  I have had maybe 1 or 2 times they were not appreciated out of hundreds of times I have given flowers, in and out of this business.  If you don’t know what to give, this is as safe a bet as there is.  Surprisingly, I’ve had more Ladies upset over a monetary tip than over flowers.

Interesting point.  I think the key is to ask whenever possible.  On return visits it means you should have taken a little time to learn about her interests, likes, and dislikes.

The real gift is not what you bring, but caring enough to find out and make it something she likes.