No, there is no time tested, guaranteed way to be sure that an un-reviewed lady is not LE or a rip-off.  I do occasionally see un-reviewed ladies but only under a few conditions.  If they are working for an agency that I know and trust I will give them a shot. Also, if I can find an advertising history on several sites and/or if the lady has a personal web site I may also roll the dice.  

Keep in mind that my method keeps me pretty safe from LE and most likely from seeing a total ROB but there is no way to tell how good your experience will be beyond not getting busted or robbed.  At some point you just have to roll the dice in this hobby.

Has anyone developed a time tested effective way to verify a non-reviewed provider?  With "verify" I mean assuring that you are not running into A) an LE sting operation and B) no rip off situation.

If you don't get arrested or ripped off, then she's verified. Or, to put it in non-smartass terms: Sorry, there is no way. That's why the consensus here is to only see well reviewed providers. With anyone else, you're taking a big risk.

Next best thing is linked below. Use with extreme caution.

That's quite a crap shoot. I've TOFTT many times.  First, I'm never in a hurry to see her. IF you want to see her in an hour, she's counting on you thinking with your little head and not the big one and that type of thinking will surely get you into trouble.

For me, she needs to have an email address, and a web site. If all the lady only has is a bp ad and a ph# good luck? However, if she has ads on multiple escort malls and my other requirements, I'll send her an email.  After a few email exchanges I usually can get a feel for the lady.

Maybe this needs a new thread but if we only see reviewed providers, don't we end up bumping the same few profiles saying, "yep". It seems like every question I ask is answered by, "See a reviewed provider." How do we get fresh reviews on here if no one takes the leap.

Most of us see unreviewed ladies under the same circumstances that the ladies see newbies - some sort of reference (usually from another lady we have seen, or a good service), or by doing a background check. I saw one lady with virtually no review history because she gave me some information that allowed me to learn a whole lot about who she was on line. Another was referred to me by a well-established provider.

I have also ended up having PM discussions with other hobbyists, comparing notes about an unreviewed provider, based on an inquiry I posted on the local Board. You rarely are the only person who has seen that lady, and while others may have chosen not to review her, they may have had some contact and be able to provide more info. For the most part, these discussions have steered me away from ladies, though there is a local provider who is UTR that I might see one of these days. Thing is, no one I have talked to has actually seen her - we all seem to be in the same situation, so I am really am not sure what is going on.

So, yeah, we do see newbie providers if we can verify them, one way or another. But you have to feel comfortable that you know enough that she is real. That does not mean you know exactly what the experience will be, so the chance of being ripped off or disappointed is still very real.

OTOH, newbies really should not be doing this or asking about it. And more established hobbyists do not need to ask.

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You're new to this, so don't see any girls that have any reviews. I know they cant get their foot in the door, until the finally do get reviewed, but thats not your problem. Let other hobbists TOFTT, not you.

I know it may sound mean, but it only takes one slip up, to get rob, are caught up by LE.

I say this because last November, I went to go see a provider with no reviews, and almost got robbed.

are easily answered by, 1) Read the Self-Help Guide, 2) Get VIP in order to read full reviews, and 3) See only well reviewed providers. All of which could easily be learned by reading the little paragraph right next to the New Thread button and taking a moment to do what it asks.

No matter how many people ask the same stale questions, the basic answers are not going to change.

As for where reviews of new providers come from, either from experienced mongers who know their way through the minefield of LE and ripoffs, or from a lucky roll of the dice. Newbies who felt lucky and lost come here for help.

Personally I kind of avoid non reviewed providers. If the girl is serious and stays in the biz for more than a couple of months, SOMEONE will see her and write a review. Lots of guys seem to like fresh meat. In fact years ago when I was new to the hobby I preferred newbies because I was green and felt more comfortable with someone who was not a pro. Now days I have specific desires and need to look at reviews to make sure the provider is like me or not. With that said, I use the verification site P411. There, I know she at least had a background check done on her, and many times other providers [or even clients who may know them from another verification site] will vouch for them.

If they [and you] are on a verification site, your much better off than the free craigslist style postings. As far as what she will do, that is the gamble. You may not get ripped off like a cash and dash, but she may be very new to the biz and more or less letting you have fun. If you are into specific things and you cant verify she offers that, then that's the gamble.  

Escort services are now showing up with their own accounts on verification sites too. Many of the girls who work for agencies are new to the biz or don't want to deal with the business side of things... or they seem to jump in and out of the biz frequently in my experience. Many of them are young and have no reviews. I have taken the chance and set up appointments trusting the verification site and had a great time. Once that happened, the contact person at the agency through E mails or calls will say "this girls is not like your last, but if you want that kind of experience, these girls are available".  

I hope this helps to answer you question

thank you for all the great replies and help.  It makes sense to stick to reviewed providers.  No need to venture out....

If she hangs up on you, she wasn't a cop!

On a serious note, LE is very aware of all of the "cop tests" and careful wording that is used in the industry, so there is no way to know for sure she wasn't a cop until you leave after meeting her and you weren't arrested.

But stings are usually about getting a whole bunch of arrests, not just one. So, you are less likely to worry about it for an outcall than incall.

I know I was unreviewed at one point and someone took a chance on me, so I'm not going to say never see an unreviewed provider. It's just a huge risk each and every time no matter what you say or do ahead of time.