Try this again. I think my first post didn't make it because I linked to a review and it was labeled as a "shill" post.
So. This will be my first call. (waiting on my P411 verification tomorrow) I searched the self help area and couldn't find anything to address my issues.
Trying to stick with some highly reviewed providers. Is more than 10 considered a good barometer?
Anyways, my issue is I honestly don't know how to approach the first phone call. I call and she picks. What do I say? Do I just say what are your rates and may I have an appointment. In the self-help section there was an article written by a provider.
But that really just says don't waste a providers time. I need to know the lingo to use so I don't say something wrong. How do I get my point across that I'm looking for a GFE experience and I want her wearing sexy ass exotic dancer high heels? I'm just assuming for any potential legal issues some things are NOT to be said.
Try this again. I think my first post didn't make it because I linked to a review and it was labeled as a "shill" post.
So. This will be my first call. (waiting on my P411 verification tomorrow) I searched the self help area and couldn't find anything to address my issues.
Trying to stick with some highly reviewed providers. Is more than 10 considered a good barometer?
Anyways, my issue is I honestly don't know how to approach the first phone call. I call and she picks. What do I say? Do I just say what are your rates and may I have an appointment. In the self-help section there was an article written by a provider.
But that really just says don't waste a providers time. I need to know the lingo to use so I don't say something wrong. How do I get my point across that I'm looking for a GFE experience and I want her wearing sexy ass exotic dancer high heels? I'm just assuming for any potential legal issues some things are NOT to be said.
Read her website, read her ads and read her profile, if you can't figure out what her rate is by doing that your not looking at someone you should be seeing as a newbie. If you don't have VIP, buy it. VIP will give you the ability to research a provider to find out what you can expect from your time with her. If you can't figure out if she is what your looking for by reading her reviews your not looking at someone you should be seeing as a newbie. If you have P411, use the P411 site for your first contact with her. After you have been cleared for a date you can ask if she takes clothing requests. NEVER ask about sex even if you use code words, acronyms or some kind of secret lingo, doing so should get you ignored and her ending all contact with you.
Look on her website for her donation. Look at her profile to see if she offers what you consider GFE. Her donation is on her profile. 11 reviews is a good number. Did you read them? Some of her scores aren't very good. I didn't take time to read them. If you haven't read the juicy details of her reviews read them. Buy VIP. Don't see her without reading them.
When you call don't mention any sex acts and don't mention money. Tell her you saw her ad and her profile. You can ask if the information in her profile is accurate. Tell her you'd like to make an appointment. Give her a day and what time. If you're leaving a voice message tell her if it's ok to call you back and when. You don't want to have to explain a call to a GF or SO. Be prepared before you call. Know what personal information you're willing to give for her screening. If she doesn't screen don't see her. Her reviewers may mention screening in their reviews. PM some of her reviewers see if they will tell you about her level of GFE..
Some will tell you to avoid girls advertising on BP. She does have reviews so that's better. Did you check to see if the guys that reviewed her have reviewed a lot of providers. If most of them have only written one or two reviews I'd not see her.
Look on her website for her donation. Look at her profile to see if she offers what you consider GFE. Her donation is on her profile. 11 reviews is a good number. Did you read them? Some of her scores aren't very good. I didn't take time to read them. If you haven't read the juicy details of her reviews read them. Buy VIP. Don't see her without reading them.
When you call don't mention any sex acts and don't mention money. Tell her you saw her ad and her profile. You can ask if the information in her profile is accurate. Tell her you'd like to make an appointment. Give her a day and what time. If you're leaving a voice message tell her if it's ok to call you back and when. You don't want to have to explain a call to a GF or SO. Be prepared before you call. Know what personal information you're willing to give for her screening. If she doesn't screen don't see her. Her reviewers may mention screening in their reviews. PM some of her reviewers see if they will tell you about her level of GFE..
Some will tell you to avoid girls advertising on BP. She does have reviews so that's better. Did you check to see if the guys that reviewed her have reviewed a lot of providers. If most of them have only written one or two reviews I'd not see her.
Do more research.
Thank you for this information. I can't believe I got yelled at for not spelling out "ready" completely. I asked newbie question in the newbie area. I have to start somewhere.
...about it if you don't. Text limits number of characters TER doesn't. You want to be absolutely clear in your communication. However on the Newbie Board it's nice so he could and should have been polite.
Text speak is a hallmark labeling you as what was called immature, and I will add, young. Some mature providers may avoid you because of your apparent age, as many of them have a minimum age for their clients.
You should not have gotten yelled at for using text speak, as a simple note telling you not to use it would have been sufficient. I am the host of this board, and I feel newbs who post here should not be flamed for various things they may say here, but sometimes it happens despite my efforts. Feel free to ask questions here, but go read the self help center, it may help you avoid asking some questions. Those of us who have been here a while have seen and heard just about all possible questions, but myself and my highly unpaid assistants will keep trying to help peopls. Swim
Text speak is a hallmark labeling you as what was called immature, and I will add, young. Some mature providers may avoid you because of your apparent age, as many of them have a minimum age for their clients.
You should not have gotten yelled at for using text speak, as a simple note telling you not to use it would have been sufficient. I am the host of this board, and I feel newbs who post here should not be flamed for various things they may say here, but sometimes it happens despite my efforts.
Feel free to ask questions here, but go read the self help center, it may help you avoid asking some questions. Those of us who have been here a while have seen and heard just about all possible questions, but myself and my highly unpaid assistants will keep trying to help peopls.
Swim
Thanks. I'll be more clear in the future. For the record I am 45, 2 years out of a marriage to a horrible drunk. I'm just looking for some safe, clean, companionship. I just wanted to be clear on the "do's and don'ts" of communicating with a provider on the telephone. Am I crazy and immature for being more than a little nervous my first time? I had figured that it was pretty natural occurrence for the hobby. Have a good night, Brian
Being nervous is a natural thing. Do your research, reading reviews will give you some idea what to expect with different ladies. When you find the right gal and walk through the door take a few deep breaths and leave her lead the way. A good GFE provider will help you relax and leave you thinking, WOW I should have done that sooner.
Again, get VIP and don't just read, but study the reviews and profiles. Read ALL of her website. A provider that is a good match for a beginner will have a website that shares quite a bit about herself so that you get an idea that you will probably "click". Before you even make contact with someone you should have a fairly good idea about what to expect, what not to expect and exactly what the cost will be. If not you have not done enough research or you are focusing on the wrong person. You want someone that has substantial experience at this. It is her experience that will help keep you as safe as most anything you might do at this early stage.
Also, after you arrive (or she arrives) NEVER discuss the same two things, finances and physical acts (specific or general), NEVER. Don't attempt to hand her the envelope or talk about it, simply lay it down in plain sight, early on. Time wasting is when you call or email too many times or keep her on the phone needlessly. This communication can be helpful to see if you click or not. Just don't over do it. BTW, It wouldn't be as much fun if you weren't at least a little nervous.
All of the above sounds like good advice, but to answer your basic question about what to do when she picks up the phone, I would say keep it simple and friendly, something like "I wanted to see if you might be available to get together this evening." Let her take it from there. Good luck.
So after you've laid down the envelope and time goes by...at what point can you discuss "physical acts?" Never?
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Also, after you arrive (or she arrives) NEVER discuss the same two things, finances and physical acts (specific or general), NEVER. Don't attempt to hand her the envelope or talk about it, simply lay it down in plain sight, early on.
a little light chit chat ("you look you even more beautiful than your photos", "how was your day?," etc.), some kissing, some feeling up, some undressing, breast play, this will usually lead to her accessing your goodies for BJ fun. From this point you can steer the direction of things by making suggestions. If she's hesitates or says she doesn't enjoy a certain activity DON'T PUSH. Just go with the flow and have fun with what she does offer. Hopefully you've researched enough not to be surprised when some activity isn't on her menu. But there may be some little things that you have to discover on your own (perhaps something like FIV, or giving the "boys" special attention). The main thing is to relax and have fun. If she's a reputable provider, then she is there to please you - and will do her best within the things that she is comfortable with. Each woman is different, so enjoy the unique experience of each one you are with, without having TOO much of a checklist. By this I mean, if she's not into something you were hoping for, roll with it. You can assess after the date whether or not the experience was overall fun enough. I've had great times with some ladies who may not have done - or allowed - some of the little things I liked. I think the surest way to ruin the vibe of a date would be to push on something she doesn't like ("oh, really, WHY don't you like that?). To me, her comfort is more important than my curiosity. If she is completey comfortable with me, then the odds of a good time go up exponentially IMO. And if the menu ended up being too limitted to have a fully satisying experience, then consider that a learning experience and move along and start planning for your next date with a different lady.
Sorry this was a little long-winded, and drifted off a bit from the question - but this is my approach and how I've let things progress on my dates.
After the session is a good time to discuss additional likes and dislikes, more specific details, etc. to potentially introduce the next time you meet.
OK, but you still haven;'t answered my basic question. Does "do not talk or text about financial donations nor physical acts, NEVER" apply only to the first few minutes, or do you just engage in physical acts without talking about them?
after the date is a good time for more discussion - no pressure at all because the date is done, and by that time she will know that you are a good client. Speaking personally though, my wants and needs are pretty simple, so by the end of the date, I usually pretty much know if what she offered met them. But I will say, I've had great luck with second dates because ladies are so completely comfortable with me right from the start, big smiles, warmth, and none of that first date tension - and feeling that connection just makes ALL activites better IMO.
regarding donations, this should be clear from her ads or website. If not, then email asking for clarification. Example: "Hi Rachael, you look beautiful, I'm interested in a 1 hour date with you. I see different rates for this on p411 vs your site, can you please clarify which is your current rate?"
Regarding talk of physical acts, I addressed this by saying after the BJ action has started, this is a good time to steer things the way you may want - as you've already begun engaging in sexual activities. Suggest the next act or position. As you are doing activities, mention the things you like. For instance, if getting a BJ, ask her if she could give "the boys" some attention, hopefully she agrees, but if not, roll with it. The rest of my post speaks for itself, and my approach has worked great for me. I hope this is more clear to you.
I did add that the suggestion about what NOT to talk about should continue even after you first meet. This applies until after things get started. But even then I am not demanding and I go with the flow. I have researched her profile, website and reviews thoroughly enough that I know pretty well what to expect, what's on and off the table. As long as I am clean, respectful and not demanding I almost always receive what I'm expecting.
But after the action starts it is certainly appropriate to vocalize what's enjoyable, modify the pace or modify direction of the activities. Most of the time though when the woman is experienced this can happen with very few verbal queues. The women that I repeat with are ones that enjoy themselves as much or more than I do. Some are very good actors I am sure, but nonetheless, paying attention to her queues makes it better for her which in the end, makes me happier. Personal preference for sure. The above is all first time advice for what is generally classified as a GFE experience. There are providers that specialize in other types of sessions may be more PSE or where she's agreed to be more submissive, but you would know that ahead of time based on your research and booking. Saying something like, "OK, now it's time for my BJ" is just not something I would ever say in a GFE session. And certainly not during our first meeting. Although I have been with a couple of ladies that do enjoy that type of communication.
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