I have been in the hobbie for a year now and though pse is clearly unprotected everything and is clearly not something I feel comfortable with .
So my question is regarding GFE.
In some discussions it seems gfe is a catchword for bbbj
Some say daty is part of the definition of gfe.
I was curious if others share my opinion the primary menu item for GFE is DFK,call me a foreplay kind of guy,don't get me wrong I would not pass up a bbbj if offered but I am fine with cbj that my reg providers offer.

I find it amusing the recent postings concerning disease transmission I wonder if the hobbiests that are so into bbbj have reservations about DFK or just prefer to assume a higher risk profile.
Interested in woman's opinio

First, regarding PSE; I don't think that term specifically means uncovered everything, but I could be wrong.... it does happen once in a while lol.
I don't read other ladies' reviews often but of those that are PSE the common theme appears to be that you can expect the lack of limitations, come-fuck-me-NOW attitude seen in porn flicks.  Including, but not limited to:  BBBJ with DT, many positions including those you wouldn't expect of your average GFE, Greek, ATW and even a few more exotic acronyms, depending on the specific lady in question.  Also, you really shouldn't expect the date-type atmosphere that many GFE providers strive to create.  Some PSE experiences ARE also GFE in that regard, but from what I personally have read, many are not... and the clients often seem to prefer it that way in those instances.  

GFE: when defining it by services/acts offered, the common opinion on these forums seems to be that ALL of what you mentioned should be on the table: DFK, DATY, AND the ever-popular BBBJ.    

Now, that being said... I've found in my experience (and I've been providing since before this term existed, and for far longer than I will EVER admit) that many men/clients have their own personal definitions of what it means to them.  
Sort of like, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", these terms also seem to be subjective regardless of what the reviewing community at large defines them to be.  

So if GFE to you means DFK: I'm not going to tell you you're wrong.  But please bear in mind (I've said this before, and will say it again any time I deem it pertinent to the topic at hand) that what one man thinks of as LFK could be that chosen lady's definition of DFK, and thus his idea of DFK would then be that lady's definition of a tonsil-exam-by-tongue.  LOL!

Trust me on that one. :-P

Of course, the reverse is also true: you could think that a lady who offers DFK goes way overboard with her tongue when she doesn't think so at all.  

Keep this in mind: NOBODY~ and I mean NO ONE~ thinks they are a bad kisser.    

 
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...the provider. While some may go unprotected everything for PSE it's not exactly the accepted methodology. There are many discussions on this board of what some think GFE and PSE are so I'll just give you the link to the Self-Help Center discussion on the topic. Just click below the link and read. Then read the rest of the Self-Help Center.

So, rather than put any stake in them, read the gal's reviews and see if they things reported in the reviews are what you are interested in.

Going way back in time, GFE only meant that the gal's attitude would be like the one your girl friend would have, that is to say, be sympathetic and friendly, as opposed to the usual stereotype of an escort which was reportedly (correctly on occasion) as being businesslike, cold, and unattached.

Even that is not always assured, however.

It's all relative however, a responsible person should never go without protection!  

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I think you pretty much summed it up the way I think GFE should be discribed.
It has often bothered me hearing so and so is not gfe  because she does not do a specific act.

...GFE might have originally meant a sympathetic attitude, but hasn't it evolved to now mean DFK, DATY, and BBBJ?  That's what I tell people.  (deep French kissing dining at the "Y", and bare back blow job).

There are a lot of different opinions about what a PSE is.  But, it does not mean uncovered FS.  So many people think that's what it is.  Some think it includes greek, but most agree, it does not necessarily.  After all, there's a lot of porn without greek.

Most people agree it's a high energy session, which, in my opinion, is VERY difficult to do without the guy being a PSE, too!  There is only so much I can do with a man who lies on his back, right?

If you are interested in having a PSE, I agree with the person who wrote the attached link above, try changing up activities frequently with a high level of intensity.  It's a two person sport