My question is if the rates on TER (vip access) are accurate. Reason being is because I called a provider for an appointment and we agreed on a time and told her I'd be there. Then I get a text from her few minutes later with rate information higher than her TER profile. I texted her back explaining that I was prepared to come but my understanding about rates was different. She replied back a sort of suggested that I was trying to haggle her down on her price.  

... because it requires a problem report to be filed to change them.  That takes time, and sometimes providers forget to do it when they change their rates.  

Just because she's reviewed on TER does not mean she has even read her reviews here.  
And if she hasn't claimed her profile, granting the Free Provider Limited VIP to read her own reviews, or paid for VIP..... then she wouldn't be able to see the posted rates.  Thus, she'd have no idea that someone had quoted them incorrectly.  

A provider's profile on TER is created by the first reviewer, and changed via problem reports. Many don't get changed. Many providers are not members of TER, some don't even know they have reviews here, and many who are members here have no clue how to change their own profile. A TER profile is not a reliable source for rates.

Most TER pages have links to the providers personal website. We spend money, time and energy to make sure our personal websites are up to date. Always refer back to that before taking TER's word as gospel.

it can be seriously out of date...  or totally mistaken.  Many ladies web sites have a default "Ask Me".  So politely inquire as to the rate for an hour of her time, if none is listed.    
In the OPs case, I'm afraid they got off on the wrong foot but she should appreciate the heads up.  (and I would suggest to her that she have it corrected.)  She is under no obligation to honor it...  TER is not her site.  Now that he knows the correct rate, he can decide whether to request an booking.

What are you saying, that providers take advantage of articulate-sounding clients? Why, because you have less "street smarts?" Please.

I understand Debbie. The conversation goes 2 ways though. I've seen profiles where a provider has multiple rates for the same block of time. In which time I would then ask if which rate was correct. But since she had multiple reviews with the same posted amount it seemed to me like she was trying to ask for more from me because maybe she thought I'd pay more for whatever reason. Plus she never mentioned her rate in the first conversation so I also took it like she was throwing out a higher amount there too.

Posted By: Debra_Hollander

Just because she's reviewed on TER does not mean she has even read her reviews here.    
 And if she hasn't claimed her profile, granting the Free Provider Limited VIP to read her own reviews, or paid for VIP..... then she wouldn't be able to see the posted rates.  Thus, she'd have no idea that someone had quoted them incorrectly.  
   
 Please try to look at it from her point of view: she has ads out there and maybe even her own personal website.  Those are the places where she is responsible for making sure her correct rate is posted.    
 Most of the providers who have review profiles here on TER are not actually members here or even have anything to do with this site. This means that ALL info on such a profile is simply the word of others.  
 So in this lady's eyes,  she's got her own information out there, and you went and took a rate posted by someone else and tried to hold her to it.  I'd probably see it as you attempting to haggle too.    
   
 Personally, even if that wasn't your intention,  I think you cancelling on her when you didn't refer to her OWN website and ads for the correct rate was  an ungentlemanly thing to do.  But that's just me.    
   
 

Well if the rate is on TER I just assumed that SOMEONE paid the amount on there. Because what reason would one have to post a lower price than what they actually did pay.  

Generally they save their upselling for the room. It's possible some providers might change their price based on the reading comprehension level of a client's emails or texts, but I doubt it. Especially when they can be checked against other sources.

Any one can submit a problem report and change rates. The guy who did her profile initially may have just put some random amount, or it could have been a typo. You could have explained your confusion graciously to her and probably would't have had to post about it here.  

The first reviewer who sees her submits the rates listed on her profile. Those might have her rates a long time ago... she might have been in a different location or situation (slow season), etc.  

might have paid it 3 years ago, or in a different city, or when she was offering a temporary special...

There have been a few guys who I've seen make comments that they won't pay more than what a lady's lowest price has ever been.  So if Jane Hoe starts out in the business at a rate of $200 but then very quickly realizes she can get more and within a month she doubles her rate...... doesn't matter to these guys if it's 2 years later and she's now the most sought-after provider in town: they won't pay her current rate.  Hell, it wouldn't matter to them if she'd gone up 10 bucks; they won't pay the extra $10 because doing so would make them feel like a sucker.  

I don't believe in sales negotiation at all. My money is not to satisfy your need when I buy something it is to meet my own need for whatever purchase I'm making. I don't haggle so I don't like you be haggle either. I salesperson wins me over by understanding what I am looking for not by showing me something that I don't need. But and there is a but here if I am looking to buy, then I'm probably going to. If you show me that you believe the exchange is more about you than about ME then I'm likely to walk away from the deal because you're seeking to fulfill your own need and not necessarily mine. This is especially true when you are looking you gain me as a client.

Providers do increase their rates for various reasons. It's not my business to tell her that she must honor a lower rate than she wishes to accept. It is her time and she is entitled to be compensated for that time.

But why haggle if I already had booked and already had a rate in mind. If I'm able to understand that then she could understand how I can get that idea too.

Sorry dude, something is still not settling right. It's like you have some bias against escorts. Or sales. Or both. Or who knows. Especially when you were the one who was confrontational that her price was wrong, which would be interpreted as haggling, the very thing you don't like. And I find it hard to believe you don't negotiate anything at all in life.  

Well it's not so easy to be honest with you. Granted, the reviewer could have posted a rate that's incorrect. Her rates have never been what is posted on her profile. I go ahead and believe that, then I am also disregarding that there are providers (not you Debbie) that do practice upselling tactics.  

Posted By: Debra_Hollander

Posted By: Kreativity

 
  If she increased her rate, then that's fine. Why not own up to it instead of saying the rate is wrong.

   
 Because, as others in this thread have been attempting to impress upon you, the rate really could be wrong.  It's completely possible that she has never changed her rates, they've always been what she quoted you, and thus........ the rate posted to her profile is "wrong".    
 Incorrect.    
 A mistake made by a reviewer.    
   

Posted By: Kreativity

 
  Had she simply said she recently made an increase, then I'd understood but denying it makes me feel she has something to hide.

   
 Why do you believe she is denying a rate-change?  Do you recall seeing the rate from her profile on her own ads or site?    
   
 If not, then why can't you believe what she told you about it being wrong?

If I never engage in what which seems like I must prove myself to gain trust then since "life is too short" I may never engage in anything beyond what which can be attained on the surface.  

I can't decipher this post. But to put it in the simplest terms, you would have incentive to haggle because the price you had in mind was lower than the one she quoted. She would have incentive not too because she doesn't want to lower her price. Why you can't grasp that her price on TER might not be her actual price, and why she wouldn't want to argue with you about it is beyond me.  

Is English your first language? That's a serious question, no offense intended.

First, you are correct in that I am not the same person as I was when I first started. Hell, I am not the same person now as in July, gratefully. Seriously, thank f*ck for change. It's so empowering and freeing. But that had nothing to do with this, this just benefited from it.  

It's very simple: did her rates differ from her website or advertising? If not, then you have no leg to stand on. TER mentions another rate. Tell me, do you cling to other discrepancies in reviews for dear life as well or is it just rates? If her earlier reviews suggested a more closed menu and CBJ, would you confront her during a session if she went for BBBJ, exclaiming "but you must have done CBJ for someone else"? If a lady showed up packing twenty pounds and years more than what you were expecting, would she be off the hook if she were able to show screenshots of early reviews claiming she was an 18 year-old spinner?  

As has been mentioned repeatedly: her TER rate was set by her first reviewer and is clearly inaccurate. He could have typed it wrong, or it could even be a fake review and he just put in some random number. Does she have an ad or website with rates posted? If so, the onus was on you to follow that, not a TER profile which very often has inaccurate info (especially if the lady doesn't have access to it.  

I'm abrasive and condescending. Let's remember people we cannot get tone of voice from text. If you are not sure what I mean or how I mean something then just ask. I assure you I'm not with the intention of haggling her. I could pay her price, but didn't wanna feel taken. You guys understand that and know I'm not being condescending so stop it. Especially you Tobias, you're a smarter girl than that.

1) First, Tobi didn't mention tone... she just said that you come across a certain way. But, just FYI, TONE, in literature, is defined as the author's attitude toward his subject. One can absolutely deduce tone from writing style, word choice, and specific things the writer says.... Your attitude to this girl was definitely abrasive - you automatically assumed she was trying to pull one over on you, and confronted her with the information we *all* keep telling you was most likely incorrect.

This is not something we aren't all familiar with. The conversation goes BOTH ways.  

I ask because each response you give gets more and more meta, so I'm wondering if maybe we're just not understanding you correctly (possibly due to a language barrier).  

On top of the page is usually a couple websites you can click on. These will take you their personal website and donations for incall and outcall. In most case outcall is more than incall, though sometimes the same.

I guess most of us cannot be objective. So I agree to disagree with you guys. I totally understand when you guys say look at her website not TER. The first reviewer rating may have been incorrect.

The newspaper was from 1964.  I'm SURE if I took the paper into the dealership they would give me the original price!  Right?

You asked for a lower rate. Not lower than what was quoted, but lower than what was told to you by her. You did so by showing her a screenshot of her TER page, which is more "objective," I'll grant you, than saying, "Come on baby, I've only got $X this week." But it's still haggling. They don't like it.

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Actually, if in half decent shape, it could go for 10X that, or even more depending on how it was equipped

oes she have her rates posted on her own website or on her own ad?

When a girl first starts working, it's Usualy at a lower rate. But then as demand gets higher for her time she can make the decision to make her rates higher to get better clientele and only meet with the people she feels are better worth it.

Based on his most recent response to me, I have to assume that he never actually read her website. And rather than admitting that he made an honest mistake, he thinks we're all a bunch of "afraid people" ganging up on him. It's like arguing with Towelie.  

And there are multiple rates for multiple blocks of time on TER. And the blocks of time versus rates are progressive amounts. One reviewer I can see making a mistake, but multiple reviewers making mistakes, probably possible but unlikely.

Clear, concise, to the point, and directly at my question. Even provided an example without being insulting, sarcastic, or rude.

I've read your post. You are totally headache material, and saying anyone on this thread miss an opportunity is hysterically pathetic.  

I'm totally okay with accepting some criticism. But there's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. She offers criticism, but doesn't know if her information is true. She offers it like it is fact when in fact nothing about it is factual at all. So when it's offered in this way it's actually meant with the intention to take a stable at insulting me.  
I don't feel insulted because she doesn't know me and definitely doesn't know the facts of the interaction. Others have actually liked her post. And she fails to asks questions of information when something seems questionable to her.