I have read many reviews starting out, " I left the envelop and she ignored it or didn't count it, OR did " some guys say they leave the donation at the end of a session. BUT what if you walk in and immediately see the person in front of you is NOT the person portrayed in an ad? Or after a few minutes of discussion the person denies they are not about to perform any acts that were advertised? Is it ok to leave, even if some preliminary undressing and touching has occurred ? I am in my fifties, I do not smoke and I am very clean hygienically speaking. I am overweight, a paunch but I am not a walrus or whale. I love escorts and am very respectful. Are providers obliged to perform as advertised? I have a bad back do spinners speak to me as it is easier to move around. I deal breaker for me is No DFK and NO DATY. If a girl advertises GFE, and ends up NOT being GFE, shouldn't I get dressed and leave, taking the donation? I check reviews religiously, other guys swear great DFK and DATY. WTF is up with that?
First, you cannot believe everything you read in reviews. Memories are not perfect, and the reviews are sort of a fantasy anyway. Really, a lot of them are.
Second, the lady is not obliged to do everything she has ever done for anyone for you. She is a person, and there can be any number of reasons, only some of which are about you, why she may not want, or be able, to do something at that moment.
So you need to decide whether or not you want to go through with it.
But, no, you cannot pick up your money and leave just because the lady will not kiss you, or does not want to let you do DATY. You booked her time and you either need to leave when you hit the door because she is not the lady you booked, or pay up. Okay, that is not completely true - if it is some form of rip off, she is drugged up or scary in some other way, you can also leave. But even then, you should pay her something for her time. Drop $100 and say this is not going to work.
Of course you can leave and pay nothing. Best case, you will find it increasingly hard to get a date with a provider. Worst case, you will end up with an angry person who is trying to harm you one way or another. That can be physical, outing, harassing, or who knows what.
Hi Romeo, Once you drop the envolupe, it's hers whether she touches it or not. You'll be black-listed for sure if you pick it back up & leave.
Typically, on a first visit, the lady wants to see the envolupe before the action... I don't care for it, as it is tacky. With my Faves, I have the correct donation in a paper clip in my key pocket when I arrive... we move to the bedroom, I select a corner of her dresser for my "pocket junk". The donation comes out & goes on the dresser under my pile. (Even if I forgot, I can't leave without finding the donation in my key pocket.) When I redress the donation is left behind. I do not watch it. Sometimes it disappears in the back & forth of bathroom & dressing, sometimes not until after I leave.
If she is not the girl in the photos, she'll not be happy if you leave but you have every right to do so. You have not puit the donation down, so you have nothing to pick up.
If you start discussing sex acts... she may start denying... because it may seem like a set up. Something LE would pull. You may be freaking them out. Are you really TER VIP? No system is perfect but I've found TER reviews to be the most trust worthy. Are these well reviewed providers... min 6-10 reviews & some by vertan reviewers with 6-10 reviews themselves.
GFE is a meaningless ad term. At best it is the feeling of being with a GF as you leave. But there is no set of requirements.
In my experience, most provider communication is non-verbal or at most whispered when you are both naked between the sheets.
Where are you shopping? I suggest you shop here on TER, go to reviews, click on NEW for your area. Use the results to research prospects. There are Well Reviewed providers on every ad venue... and scammers... Use the tools to fully research. If you have done your homework, you should arrive knowing what she looks like & a good assurance she performs. Recently ads & web sites have begun being more cautious about stating sex acts for good reason. For that you must rely on reviews. As VIP, you can PM the last coupe of reviewers. They'll not want to reveal much beyond what is in the review (some unscruplious persons try to circumvent a lady's security in PMs) but they will likely tell you if she's real. Best Wishes, H
How prevalent are blacklists and can't I reveal ladies who are not ethical to other hobbiests so they can avoid them. It sounds too much like the joke about your wife when married- they have half of your money and all the pussy! I was reading a recent discussion about providers that don't put out, this thread was along that line. I think YMMV should be an exception, not the rule. I have a limited income and when a date doesn't turn out as expected, it really hurts the pocketbook.
I agree with above posters. If you walk in & start discussing sex acts & what you expect, any reputable lady is going to either show you the door or act dumb. We have reviews so you know what services are offered(yes, I know they are not always 100% accurate) but for the most part, they are. So, if her reviews, multiple times state DATy and DFK, there is NO reason to ask her this once you arrive. If it's not the lady in the pic, then turn around & walk away ASAP... there's no need for conversation or anything else of that matter.
Also, never believe what you read in ads, read the reviews.
You can be put on a blacklist for just about any reason the provider thinks. There are a number of blacklists and some will even publish your personal info if the provider has it and you're sloppy in keeping that stuff to yourself. You can reveal any unethical provider on your local board but you better have your facts straight and be prepared for the WKs to come to her rescue. Many reviewers will not reveal names of ROBs or NCNS providers, instead they will request you pm them. YMMV is just part of the hobby, it occurs all the time. It is not the exception to the rule IMHO. If you have a limited income, maybe you shouldn't be hobbying. However, if you still want to hobby I would suggest you do a ton of research on providers you want to see. Make sure they are well reviewed on TER or other boards and make sure the reviewers are veteran reviewers.
left in the bathroom, others on a table by the bed. Excuse yourself to wash-up (the lady will count the money while you are in the bathroom) then let the fun begin.
I find your position admirable Deb, but it is far from universal. It is a smart position, in the sense that it will avoid a lot of potential bad reviews or word of mouth, though I do wonder this - do you actually inform hobbyists of your money-back guarantee every time, or only when you sense there is a problem?
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