I have had the feedback come to me from many ladies who have given references for me. The lady receiving the reference has often commented that they were looking forward to meeting me, because they had heard that I was "such a gentleman". So, it is at least appreciated. I do however cringe at being tarred with the same brush as some of the "hobbyists" who leave such a bad impression....
I am not a bum, nor am I extremely wealthy, I always act like a gentleman and tip a little extra for the ladies that put forth an extra effort to make sure we have a good time, but could one of you ladies please clarify "upscale" for me? Thank you
It depends on the lady. Some add it just because they think it sounds good and they don't want drug addicts. Others require (whether explicitly or not) that you be employed at a place other than McDonalds, and that you write well, sound polite, and don't make too many (especially explicit!) demands before the appointment (i.e. I want you to wear [very specific/expensive outfit lady doesn't own], while you to stand on your head and yodel during the appointment).
Either way, I really don't think you'll have a problem!
Thanks, i appreciate the input
Based on my exposure to the business over the years.... The term 'used' to be an attempt at suggesting the provider preferred white collar and executive types to blue collar and it was a marketing effort to save the men as well as the provider screening time. ... It seems, as of lately- it has just became another phrase picked up and used on websites by some providers merely for fluff-
Many times a provider will alert prospective clients that she prefers "upscale gentlemen only" because she will require screening to verify you are an employed executive or partner in your practice- some type of upper management position or the like. The indicative phrase is meant as a precursor to give a man the warning that she will be following up with the information that he provides and is expecting the facts to be verifiable. Some providers simply add it because they expect manners and an acceptable level of respect from the men who spend time in their presence and are implying "upscale" will exhibit that. .
Just read the providers web-site, research her reviews then check her posts on the local discussion board of her area. If you have read comments in reviews such as: "I called her and made an appointment to meet, within 30 minutes I was at her door"- I'm just guessing the whole "upscale gentlemen only" is pretty much out the window in such a situation....the provider is obviously just meeting men without much screening or verification. (*In most major cities 30 minutes barely gives a provider the ability to give exact directions to her property- let alone verify, screen and familiarize herself with who she is meeting*)
A few other tale tells: If the provider is advertising and has reviews for 15 minute appointments then she probably isn't catering to "upscale gentlemen only"- it usually takes longer than 15 minutes to take a suite w/ accessories off and on.... let alone the showering, grooming and of course the physical exercise in between---
TER is usually your best indicator as to whether a provider is on your preferred avenue of required behaviors and mannerisms- research is your key! ~T
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It's bullshit ! Providers will generally fuck any scumbag with the cash! True. The phrase has become ubiquitous in provider ads, and is now meaningless otherwise. To most providers, if you bathed in the last 2 days, and can pay..... you qualify as an "upscale gentleman".
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Smelly, you ever think you're fishing in the wrong waters?????
I think it means the provider would prefer clients who do not show up and haggle over money and does not look like they just climbed out from under a 1976 Ford F-150 doing an oil change - not that there is anything wrong with that! LOL
I certainly don't mind a gentleman that indulges in a tune-up, Alignment, Lubing, Rear-end inspection or any other necessary preventive maintenance and/or servicing that is required!!!
Gotta run----time for some servicing
with the same respect and dignity that we expect from them, I think that pretty much qualifies as being "upscale". I don't believe that you need to be the CEO of a fortune 500 company, or have wealth beyond simply being able to afford her rates. I'm sure there are a few ladies who do require these sort of things, but most only ask that you be the gentleman that you should be in the first place.
I find that people often if not generally do not even understand that which I consider to be basic manners..... this should be the norm, the starting point, not something the ladies should have to ask for, beg for, remind us about over and over again....
As I've said many times before, Mom raised a gentleman, and maybe sometimes it gets in the way, but I wouldn't have it any differently. It seems to be too much of a effort for some, but when it's your normal behavior, it's no effort at all for guys like you and me. It's just natural.
I have had the feedback come to me from many ladies who have given references for me. The lady receiving the reference has often commented that they were looking forward to meeting me, because they had heard that I was "such a gentleman". So, it is at least appreciated. I do however cringe at being tarred with the same brush as some of the "hobbyists" who leave such a bad impression....
I really don't think providers overlook such "manners" -Most established providers recognize and appreciate the type of behavior you are describing!! If we fail to express than then I'll apologize for all of us. It is indirectly expressed by our willingness to schedule time with you.
While at times it seems to be a dying trend and sometimes era related; there are sometimes a few exception to the age thing but as a rule it's fairly predictable. Nicely behaved men are not taken for granted- If you start keeping an eye out for it you, would be surprised how many providers have a disclaimed on their site:
I do not entertain men under the age of 35, this is not a challenge just a matter of personal preference.... (*or, worded along those lines).
While many men quickly think this is because age is usually accociated with profesisonal success and accomplishment; I've know a few providers who felt the same way I did. My general experience was gentlemen born prior to the 1970 seem to have more traditional mannerisms that many consider to be a gentleman.
In the last two years that I was meeting new friends, I rarely saw anyone under 35, and when I did that was more the exception than the rule....and, regardless of how much smelly tries to yank the chain of unsespecting readers.... many established providers will favor booking a man she knows has "manners" than someone who is willing to substitute cash for behavior by compensating with a higher donation. This is usually a luxury that more established providers can indulge in but, once a provider has been exposed to true gentlemen she will frequently become more selective in who she schedules return visits with. (*sorry Smelly it had to be said-
Treating a woman like a lady sometimes goes further than many realize. kisses ~T
a provider's reference is as much a review of them as a claim that they're safe to meet. The men have no idea what a provider will say when contacted for a reference. I have no doubt you discuss aspects of behavior that may be concerning to you or another provider, as well you should.
I'd rather providers share that I am polite and well groomed than merely that I am safe to meet.
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I was brought up to behave like a gentleman. Inappropriate behavior was not tolerated and I learned early on to treat others, regardless of race, creed, or gender, with the same respect I desired.
Interestingly, I find I usually get treated the way I want when I treat others the same way. Funny how that works.
It's getting more complicated these days though. You're as likely to be snarled at by a woman for holding the door for her as to be graciously thanked. People believed those basic manners were sexist and so some now treat them as such. It's unfortunate...
This is one of the reasons I posted the other night that I do not identify with my peers. Their behavior often baffles me and seems downright disrespectful, and yet nobody ever seems to correct them..
To put it bluntly...I do not see gentlemen that spend time with women from CL or a lady that doesn't have a fully functional website.
We live in a day and age where the internet has become the center of our existence.
For a provider to not at least put together a decent website (figuring she commands at least 2 roses for her time)...I wouldn't even want to spend anytime with her clients because I feel her clients didn't have any standards.
Anyone who's willing to see anybody isn't a "friend" I should know.
Nothing personal to anyone but I am always well-groomed and present myself in an elegant manner. I am a VERY low volume provider and I like my "friends" to exercise discretion and be a bit particular on who they decide to spend their time with.
One doesn't have to be a Donald Trump or Bill Gates but I am not spending an afternoon with someone who request a 15 minute special or shows up looking like they live in a hole.
I just expect my "friends" to present themselves in that same pleasant manner such as myself and doesn't see bottom of the barrel providers.
I apologize if certain providers stress the phrase "will only see upscale gentlemen."
Its the only way we know how to get our point across without being rude.
- A.L.
Here's my $0.02 I like gents who can afford to treat me the way I treat myself and them. My incall is luxe, I stock mens toiletries, and when I travel, I stay at nice locals. I expect the same..........but just in case............
1.I like gentlemen who are over the age of 30
2. One with a good grasp of the english language (ie. not a lot of profanity/slang in our 1st conversation, I am not your ma, shorty, slim,or kid-see above).
3. One who respects the time he has reserved, on time and considerate of my schedule. No bargain hunters. And also someone who is able to voice his likes and dislikes before we meet,smh.
4. Freshly showered with no cologne in places my mouth might find! Fresh breathe is HUGE, please don't smoke before we meet (it stays in ones lungs and can be smelled in a kiss, not cute)
5. One who does not ask me if I party, because I don't, I barely drink. This has most often happened with white collar clients. Drugs are bad!!!
6.One who will not try to proposition me to be exclusive when we haven't even met. I have no desire to join your team,either.
7. I do not attend outcalls to motels, my incall is luxe so why go from first class to coach?Geographically the lower end is Holiday Inn Express. Pesonally I like the W.Still trying to get to the Waldorf-Astoria which is funny since it is technically a Hilton Hotel. But well know you know!