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Thoracicsurgeon 902 reads
posted
1 / 22

I had a session a few weeks ago with a provider I had visited once before.  I arrived a bit early at the incall and she told me to come up right away.  The session was **EPIC**. By far the best sex of my life, and the most rewarding thing was seeing her flush and cum several times.  At the end of my time, I was saying that it was time to go, but her body was telling me to stay.  I overstayed by at least half an hour (on a two hour appointment), largely giving her DATY and another believable O.  She then started talking to me about other personal stuff and I stayed for another 45 mins longer.

I'm feeling bad for overstaying.  I was in heaven and convincing myself that she wanted me there, but in the cold hard light of day I worry that she was only letting me stay because she was trying to give me a true GFE.

I think she is wonderful and want to see her again.  I'd love to take her for dinner and treat her like royalty, but I don't want to (/can't afford to) do it all on the clock.

Should I just assume that it is all above board and every minute with her (while wonderful) is a paid minute?  Or is there some way of asking her if it is ok to spend time off the clock without seeming like a douchebag letch?

Just to be clear, I'm not in love with her and having some weird pretty woman fantasy.  But I like her a lot and would love spending time with her on the side - knowing that I also love my wife and family and want to be spending the most time with them.

gameami 1 Reviews 642 reads
posted
2 / 22

I would say that if she didn't ask for more money, you didn't overstay.  I have heard of providers who will go out with clients on 'social dates', just like normal dating.  It should not hurt to ask if she would like to go out on the town off the clock.  

Just be sure you really want to, don't be upset at the answer, whatever it is, and don't expect a freebie.  If you do get a freebie, don't bother telling us about it -- we won't believe you

Thoracicsurgeon 555 reads
posted
3 / 22

Thanks Gameami,

If I got a freebie, I don't think I'd care to tell you guys about it anyway.  I don't advertise every time I have a good time with my wife either! ;-)

Your advice seems pretty sound.  Thank you!

keystonekid 114 Reviews 585 reads
posted
4 / 22

idea of going to dinner after your next session with her. "Hey I'm hungry. Care to go out for a bite to eat after we both get dressed.?" If she says "no", then go on your way with a smile on your face.

Sylvia Khalan 507 reads
posted
5 / 22

I always enjoyed being asked out before hand by my clients/friends.  

They would always treat me to the restaurants of my choice or one they'd been wanting to visit.
It was always...*a treat

Was I paid for that time....yes, but it was always in the form of a tip. And I never (NEVER) asked for payment for that time.

We always had such wonderful conversations...intelligent conversations.

Sex was secondary and rarely took place because my clients were "special"

So, yes, ask her out and see what she says.  Before hand is usually better.  

What a sweetie you are to think of her!  not creepy. Just thoughtful

NatashaCharles See my TER Reviews 491 reads
posted
6 / 22

That's very thoughtful of you. If you are really that concerned about if you over-stayed or not, then just ask her if she would like to go to dinner to show your appreciation of how nice she was to you on your last session.

Thoracicsurgeon 414 reads
posted
7 / 22

Ouch.  I appreciate the content, but why so aggressive in your tone?  It was an honest question and it seems several people have a different view from yours.

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NatashaCharles See my TER Reviews 487 reads
posted
8 / 22

Quarter is right. But ask her to dinner, just pay for her time. She probably wouldn't object to dinner if you paid her.  

Posted By: NoQuarterGiven
Posted By: Thoracicsurgeon
I had a session a few weeks ago with a provider I had visited once before.  I arrived a bit early at the incall and she told me to come up right away.  The session was **EPIC**. By far the best sex of my life, and the most rewarding thing was seeing her flush and cum several times.  At the end of my time, I was saying that it was time to go, but her body was telling me to stay.  I overstayed by at least half an hour (on a two hour appointment), largely giving her DATY and another believable O.  She then started talking to me about other personal stuff and I stayed for another 45 mins longer.  
     
  I'm feeling bad for overstaying.  I was in heaven and convincing myself that she wanted me there, but in the cold hard light of day I worry that she was only letting me stay because she was trying to give me a true GFE.  
     
  I think she is wonderful and want to see her again.  I'd love to take her for dinner and treat her like royalty, but I don't want to (/can't afford to) do it all on the clock.  
     
  Should I just assume that it is all above board and every minute with her (while wonderful) is a paid minute?  Or is there some way of asking her if it is ok to spend time off the clock without seeming like a douchebag letch?  
     
  Just to be clear, I'm not in love with her and having some weird pretty woman fantasy.  But I like her a lot and would love spending time with her on the side - knowing that I also love my wife and family and want to be spending the most time with them.
   
 you overstayed 30 minutes. that's on you. The 45 mins she spent yapping is on her.  
   
 Giving her an orgasm or buying dinner is not payment for her time. Not even close.  
   
 why would she soend time with a married dude for free? do you plan on leaving your wife for her? No? then why would she spend time with you when she's off? why would you think spending time with you is so wonderful TO HER that she should spend time with you instead of with a paying client, or her friends and her family? you're not her boyfriend and you never will be so the time she spends with you she is AT WORK and yes the time should be paid time. If you ask her to do her JOB without being paid for it you ARE a douchebag letch.  
   
 do you like it when strangers ask you to do your job for free?



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hiddenhills 143 Reviews 397 reads
posted
9 / 22

don't worry about it. As far as OTC time, the less you  mention it publicly the better off you are as well as the provider who you were with.  It never ceases to amaze me when I read a review and the reviewer mentions the amount of OTC time he recieved. It sets the provider were future clients expect OTC.  

Some providers consider you a squatter if you spend 5 extra minutes with her, others really do throw away the clock and could care less. Remember there's a lot of YMMV to seeing escorts.  

 

 
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Posted By: Thoracicsurgeon
Ouch.  I appreciate the content, but why so aggressive in your tone?  It was an honest question and it seems several people have a different view from yours.

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FlaSailorRon 24 Reviews 455 reads
posted
10 / 22

That she had no other plans and didn't mind the company.... Yes you overstayed, but occasionally a provider doesn't mind.  I have had occasional times where providers have come to my hotel and stayed way pass the appointment.  I would offer to pay for the time and be told not necessary, even out right refused.  When I say stay way pass, I'm not talking minutes.  Of course I now choice to see these ladies multiple times and extended visits also.  So, if she seemed okay with being with you the extra time don't worry, be happy(that sounds familiar).  The real indicator if it was alright is if you go to make an appointment with her again and she says no.  Anything other than my last sentence is not important, no matter if I said it or anyone else.

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 475 reads
posted
11 / 22

Yes you stayed past your time but it doesn't sound like she was trying to get rid of you either.  Every situation is different in the hobby especially once you start to develop regulars.  I pay my ATF for a two hour appointment that typically lasts five or six hours and includes dinner.  This is a unique situation that developed over time and something that I would never try with my other regulars. What may or may not develop "off the clock" with a lady is pretty much up to her.  You can approach her with the idea but may ruin a good thing if she feels that you are trying to take advantage.

Never assume that your pleasuring her is a replacement for money.  No matter how many orgasms you give her it is her time that you are paying for.

Thoracicsurgeon 337 reads
posted
12 / 22

Actually I often do my job for free with people I like.  Giving advice, talking as friends or as a mentor is part of what I do every day, and I only bill for the specific part of my job that I am legally obliged to bill for.  So from that stance, my job is quite analogous to that of a provider.  The difference is that it is not a part of my paid work to make people believe that they are a special person that I'd like to spend time with outside of hours....  In other words, if I make a client believe that I want to spend time with them off the clock then I actually do want to spend time with them off the clock.

Abrakadabra72 24 Reviews 365 reads
posted
13 / 22

She was probably just being polite and did not want to come off as rude.  

Or she may have enjoyed your company justifying you were not overstaying.

You're in your best interest to keep your eye on the clock and leave a few minutes before your time is up.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 445 reads
posted
14 / 22

then I'd say no harm, no foul.

However, for karma's sake, you ought to give her a good tip to make things right.

It is nearly impossible to tell when a gal is letting you stay long because she genuinely enjoys your company and when it is because she doesn't want to cause you any offense.

I bet if truth be told, the gal may herself be conflicted on this at times.

By the way, some of the more subtle hints that it is time to go are: (Note:  NOT being facetious here.)

Her sighing and saying that WAS great

Her saying:  Do you have to be going soon?

Her making a phone call or checking email

Her talking about what she has to do the next day

Note how subtle these are and yet indicative that she has a life to get back to.  Men can be oblivious to these things, so watch carefully for these.

On the other hand, if she is constantly continuing to snuggle or make out, or discussing sexy issues like what is the most far out sexual thing you've ever done; then she is giving strong signals that she enjoys your company and wants you to stay.

Hiding your clothes is another strong hint.  (One gal actually did this to me.)







DeepVDiver 468 reads
posted
15 / 22

it happened. It's done. Only you and the provider were involved and neither of you objected. She did you a nicey-nice, you should see her again and splurge for the dinner and time - do her a nice in return. And then be done; balance restored and next time keep track of time somehow... maybe a timed ipod playlist or something, and NOT set to loop, either. Next time things seem to be headed OTC, do a double-take and freakin' ASK HER what she intends. Don't try to read her actions or her mind on your own. What guy really understands what a woman intends or is thinking? You gotta ask and clarify.  

Asking to be second-guessed on the boards will bring only grief!!  

Relax.

capsrule51 402 reads
posted
16 / 22

This is what I would do....

I would check my watch a couple of times during the meeting. If we are past the agreed upon time, I would bring it up and let her know. If she says it's ok to stay for a while longer, then it's good.

I am very conscious of the ladies time. I never want to be seen as taking advantage of that.

perfectstorm 19 Reviews 416 reads
posted
17 / 22

I agree with you on most of those hints but this one:

Her saying:  Do you have to be going soon?
I always thought that was a hint she wanted me to stay longer! :D Yikes!

earthshined 363 reads
posted
18 / 22

For free next time.most likely be denied. You had a good experience but asking for free time is not appropriate.

A lady i'd seen before extended a session from 1 to 2 hrs. I gues she wanted to to talk. I never thought of asking her for fee time because of it.
 
Posted By: NoQuarterGiven
Posted By: Thoracicsurgeon
Actually I often do my job for free with people I like.  Giving advice, talking as friends or as a mentor is part of what I do every day, and I only bill for the specific part of my job that I am legally obliged to bill for.  So from that stance, my job is quite analogous to that of a provider.  The difference is that it is not a part of my paid work to make people believe that they are a special person that I'd like to spend time with outside of hours....  In other words, if I make a client believe that I want to spend time with them off the clock then I actually do want to spend time with them off the clock.
   
 their job IS exactly that - to make you feel special and like they enjoy spending time with you. thats what GFE is dude. Girl Friend EXPERIENCE not your actual girlfriend. she probably makes all her clients feelthe way you do. they all want off the clock time too

 

 

 

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riorunner 307 reads
posted
19 / 22

Truer words were never spoken...lol I sometimes feel like PMing the guys who talk about the OTC time they received and suggesting they STFU!  Don't they understand what that does to the lady? I've had several women tell me that they will never give any OTC time again to a guy who talks about it in a review, assuming they even did in the first place. Guys never exaggerate in their reviews right?
    And ditto your comments re YMMV!
                    Regards.....RR

MeetEllaJane See my TER Reviews 472 reads
posted
20 / 22

Well said, Ron.  Sounds like you've got some experience behind you. :)

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 242 reads
posted
21 / 22

LMFAO...yep! I agree 100 percent BUT if she did not kick him out, that's on her too. Can't only blame the guy...they are guys afterall. The 45 minutes she spent yapping, totally on her. Maybe she is just lonely. Many providers have no friends in real life, or much else.  

Posted By: NoQuarterGiven
Posted By: Thoracicsurgeon
Ouch.  I appreciate the content, but why so aggressive in your tone?  It was an honest question and it seems several people have a different view from yours.  
   
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 2 guys who like getting free time and 2 newbie providers who dont know better

FlaSailorRon 24 Reviews 446 reads
posted
22 / 22

Thank you for the compliment.

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