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harborview 10 Reviews 771 reads
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if a lady offers GFE & non-GFE and you have done your homework...  and there is no way offered to delineate between the 2 then I would say you must state you want GFE.  However, GFE has become an overused code word and some providers might object to your using it.  LE has learned the lingo and equates is to asking for sex.  You MUST NEVER mention a donation along with the GFE verbage because that is the defination of prostitution.  Now this is not to say some girls might be lax about this but the more cautious will hang up on you.

RGK31432276 reads

I didn't see these in the guide unless they got lost in the details.

First, when making initial contact with a provider, is it ok to state that I want a GFE session?  Basically, is it ok to list (or mention if contact is by phone) 'GFE' is the message?  A provider I'm interested in who's newbie friendly offers GFE and non-GFE sessions.  I, of course, want the GFE since she offers more of the services I want with the GFE session.. I just don't want to add anything inappropriate in my initial contact and then get completely rejected.

Second, for those of you who have P411 accounts, do you include your full name (first and last) in the name section for providers to see or just your first name or nickname, etc.?  I just have my first name now but I'm wondering if I should have my full name?  And I'd rather have my first only..

Thanks to all..

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czcodger736 reads

Just state that you want that type of session and leave things at that. Nothing else needs to be said, don't describe anything, she may hang up on you. If pricing was not detailed on her website, you should ask the price if you are price sensitive.

Someone must answer your questions about P411.

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harborview772 reads

if a lady offers GFE & non-GFE and you have done your homework...  and there is no way offered to delineate between the 2 then I would say you must state you want GFE.  However, GFE has become an overused code word and some providers might object to your using it.  LE has learned the lingo and equates is to asking for sex.  You MUST NEVER mention a donation along with the GFE verbage because that is the defination of prostitution.  Now this is not to say some girls might be lax about this but the more cautious will hang up on you.

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bllover694 reads

I have a p411 account.  I only use my first name.

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inicky461472 reads

and are going to see a well reviewed provider.  If so, you will have read her reviews and know exactly what's on her menu and what isn't.
Re P411, I'm a member and have only my first name on there.  Very few providers ask for you last name. Most will not give it.  Up to you.

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rightonppl1462 reads

you should be able simply take the corresponding donation without any prior discussion. She'll probably ask as your session gets underway. If not, mention it yourself.

Putting your full name in your P411 profile would be a very bad idea. That's information you should only disclose in confidence, if at all. In fact, a provider who saw it, rather than appreciating your openness, might consider you a bit dangerously indiscreet.

Good questions, though. And good move getting started the smart way, reading the Self-Help Guide and joining P411.

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jaydalee1074 reads

I agree GFE should not be mentioned read her reviews if she offers 2 different options just put whatever she is asking for in the envelope so she will know what you are looking for.
The few times GFE was mentioned in an appointment request I received I will not respond to this kind of request.Most gents know better than to mention this.
I do have to disagree with part of your reply regarding P411 and a gent adding his last name I would in no way find it dangerously indiscreet.

Posted By: rightonppl
you should be able simply take the corresponding donation without any prior discussion. She'll probably ask as your session gets underway. If not, mention it yourself.

Putting your full name in your P411 profile would be a very bad idea. That's information you should only disclose in confidence, if at all. In fact, a provider who saw it, rather than appreciating your openness, might consider you a bit dangerously indiscreet.

Good questions, though. And good move getting started the smart way, reading the Self-Help Guide and joining P411.
Related Link: http://www.jaydalee.com

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rightonppl877 reads

When I first signed up I didn't realize that P411's default setting for my profile was to show my full name to any provider who looked. I saw my full name on my welcome screen, but it wasn't until I called and asked that I learned that I needed to go in and change it in my profile. By then, contrary to my wises it had been seen by several providers I know of and I don't know how many others.  I have pointed this out to other members who were alarmed at the discovery. Only more recently, P411 has added 'Provider View' for hobbyists, to see our own profiles.

Whatever anyone may believe about hobbyists giving out their full name to providers for screening, to broadcast it that widely is more than most of us are comfortable doing by choice. I bet that most P411 members who show their full name aren't aware of it. So, when I say it makes them appear "a bit dangerously indiscreet", I'm likening them to, for example, a provider whose phone number comes up in a Google search in a classified ad selling her car saying to "ask Jennifer". I might have done better to call it "carelessly naive".

BTW, it didn't stop me from seeing "Jennifer" for a fantastic, wild time.

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inicky46964 reads

they had the "Provider View" feature,  so I knew automatically no one was seeing my last name.  For those of you who've been members prior to that I agree it's a good idea to check and make changes.

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rightonppl699 reads

I didn't see 'Provider View' then. It still says NEW FEATURE next to it in red. I guess "new" is all relative.

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jannisary1209 reads

If you mention at all in your correspondence at least wait until after she has screened you.  Probably the better way would be to just bring the gfe donation and once you and her have gotten comfortable then bring it up.  I'm thinking if she has two rates like that she'll probably be asking or checking the envelope before things get too far along.  

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ziggy440532 reads

I think most providers assume you want GFE, unless you say non-GFE. I have done it both ways, specified I wanted GFE, as opposed to a massage session, and not done so, and I cannot say the sessions went any differently. Maybe she knew from the $$$, or maybe she just assumed GFE, but whichever, it went smoothly and I got what I wanted.

Another way to go is to confirm the rate - "I got $$$ per hour from P411, right?" No acts mentioned, but she now knows what you plan to pay for.

If you plan to confirm the rate, or the GFE, do so only after you have been screened.

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RGK31431193 reads

I like that idea since it avoids the need to mention through phone/text.. And it looks like once the donation "changes hands" (even if it's via tabletop ;) ) everything is pretty much a go by then anyway.

Provider has many recent reviews, all very positive, and posts the donation amounts on her site so I think she'd know from the donation.  

Glad to hear others only put their first name on P411 since I didn't want my last there also..

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rightonppl1032 reads

if the service upgrade were for Greek. A provider will usually want to know in advance so that she can prep the field of play. Here too, however, discussion in phone or email could be indiscreet.

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harborview672 reads

Honestly, who needs this confusion?   Pass!
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rightonppl1302 reads

and if she isn't well reviewed, he shouldn't be seeing her regardless of the GFE option.

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RGK3143872 reads

Her website has the different rates, but IIRC, her P411 profile has just GFE listed.  I'm trying to confirm but can't login to P411 this morning for some reason..

I also TinEye'd her pics and none show as being stolen from elsewhere which lends credence to her many good reviews.. Just got to be sure I step back and think with the right head before jumping into anything.  ;)

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carlhungus1083 reads

I would pass.  I'm not saying that you should, but I would.  To me, it sounds like too many rules or that each little thing you want is an extra.  My feeling is that if a provider specifies gfe or non-gfe, then she probably does not truly enjoy what she does at all.

Too many providers out there provide what many would consider a GFE session without charging extra or seeming to charge extra.  They just give you a great time no matter what.  You choose them because you know (if they have good reviews) you're gonna have a good time with them.  You don't have to choose between having an awesome time over a good time.

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tomjohn961006 reads

I am a virgin can I tell her that in a email or should I just say I am a noob at everything.

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OneGent1532 reads

Your question actually is pretty common. Learn to search. If you don't search, at least post as separate thread. You're allowing a very important topic to be buried.

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