Dear Ms. Hadley:
I always have dialogue with the provider in question when I am compensating her because I did that once. Although it was only 20 bucks, it is the principal of the issue. The women I have seen say it is okay to have light discussion about the compensation because you want to be fair. Also you would want to do this because you might have to use them for a reference later on.
Ok, so I recently saw a new client, from the start he mentioned liking a longer appointment time, first said 90 minutes-2 hours. The last correspondence said 2 hours. I never touch the envelope when a client is there, bc I'd rather get shorted than than to have it used against me with uncle Leo, or to take a chance on offending a good client.
Anyways, I spent 2 hours with him, he was nice/had a great time, and I let the appointment run over a bit like I often do if the client is a nice guy. Anyways, he leaves in a little under 2.5 hours...and the envelope contained my 1 hour rate!
Now, he had had to push our appointment back by a couple hours due to work, bu never mentioned shortening the time. He's been emailing me for another appointment, and I wouldn't mind seeing him again but not without clearing up the time/rate issue. How have you ladies handled a short envelope situation in the past? On a related note, what about gentlemen who assume an introductory discount rate given for their first appt when I was new still applies for all future appointments ?
Thanks! I'm a bit befuddled...
or he might just accuse you of something.
The point is, if you don't check the envelope before the session begins, you are just trusting luck, and that don't always work.
If the guy is LE, it won't matter at all if you count or don't count, you're still going to get busted. So, take the envelope into the bathroom and count it out. If it's short, get it straightened out right there.
Since he only left a one hour donation when he intended at least 90 minutes, it's clear that he was planning to rip you off from the get-go.
It will give you some insights as well as make you realize this happens all too often. It is a sad reality that you ladies have to take steps to protect yourself from. I am sorry that it happens. These idiots cast a shadow on all of us. Communication is key, and while I understand not wanting to spoil the illusion, you have to verify in some discrete way that you are properly compensated. Guys should NOT be allowed to get away with this! If he is calling to see you again, it would occur to me that he thinks for whatever reason that he has done nothing wrong. I find that puzzling given the correspondence you mentioned regarding 90 minute to 2 hr date. How would he come up with 1 hr rate, unless he intended to short you from the start? Also can't understand why you would possibly be thinking about seeing him again since he obviously cheated you!! Is there more to this than has been told? As I see it, based on what you said above, you have two choices, tell him to f*uck off, report him to other ladies, blacklist him, or whatever you do to deadbeats, or assume a misunderstanding and offer him the opportunity to make good on the unpaid time. You know the situation better than any of us. Either way, I would say NEVER see him again!
As for you last question about "grandfathering" rates or discounts, some do and some don't. If you don't, then tell him. He will either pay your current rate or choose not to see you. If you don't address it and still accept the appointment, then that is on you. Some people will act ignorant as long as they can get away with it. Don't allow it! You are the one who makes your rules!
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I'm a firm believer in, it's not WHAT you do but it is HOW you do it.
I always check the envelope. Every guest, every time. Yet I do it very discreetly to where they don't know or notice. Like, when a guest is in the restroom.
Never go about it based upon how "nice"someone is. Sometimes that "niceness" is charm and charm can be deceitful. Not all the time again sometimes. A true good client understands yet you don't want to do it in front of him.
As far as another appointment, again remember it's how you do it. Tact if you will. Let him know you would love to see him again however per you last meeting his envelope was short and while you are certain it wasn't done intentionally you would need for his envelope to have the previous "remaining donation balance" along with his donation for your next meeting.
Introductory rates are just that. Anyone with common sense knows that. Unfortunately, everyone doesn't have it. For a client to try and use that I feel he is trying to pull a fast one. To ensure there is no assuming or confusion effective communication is important. For anyone who wishes to see you after the intro make sure there is a clear solid understanding that full rates apply.
o say, "So, that's 7 PM for 2 Hours of GFE, correct? I just want to make sure to plan my night accordingly and know how much time I have to do things." Get it FIRM and in WRITING what he is committing to. I can't stand it when guys can't make up their minds about a time or type of date. If you don't know, contact me when you DO KNOW! I am not going to interrupt a date to "take care of more business." I simply will not do that. I cannot "extend" a date...it has to be planned 2 days in advance.
In your case, since the guy is asking to see you AGAIN, yes, you most certainly should bring this up that he owes you for 90 min. worth of time or at the very least the hour he did not pay for. If you gave him that 20 min for free, no issue, but he owes you for that hour.
Dear Ms. Hadley:
I always have dialogue with the provider in question when I am compensating her because I did that once. Although it was only 20 bucks, it is the principal of the issue. The women I have seen say it is okay to have light discussion about the compensation because you want to be fair. Also you would want to do this because you might have to use them for a reference later on.
Honestly, I don't understand the provider who does not count the envelope. Of course it is awkward and maybe rude to open it up and count it in front of his face (by the way, you are living in a fantasy world if you believe touching/counting the envelope increases your chance of getting busted.) Suggest he use the bathroom, or pick up the envelope and go to the bathroom yourself.
In this case, if he wants to see you again, you have to point out the shortage. Think of a classy way to do it, offer to cut him a deal, whatever - but if he is not willing to make it right, then he is not a client you want to see again anyway.
As far as introductory disounts, you just have to be clear when a guy tries to re-book what the rate is... as London says.
surprises and value my rep. So I always send a confirming email that reconfirms date, time, location and if not clear donation. One lovely lady only published an hourly rate and I wanted a 2 hour visit, so I spelled it out that I was assuming her hourly rate x 2 as the appropriate donation and she should correct me if I was incorrect.
I would bring up that "There was some confusion about your rate as he only left the correct donation for 1 hour." Put the ball back in his court. If he wants to see you, he'll have to convince you... like by offering to make it good. And in the future, if you do decide to see him, count it in front of him. He's not trustworthy.
I prefer old school to silently leave the donation after... but most first dates, the gal wants it up front. And she generally checks it.
If you didn't advertise an Intro Rate, there is no intro rate! It's just Bums trying to cheap on you. Get some self respect lady!! You are a provider... offering services WE (men) want. Real gentlemen respect you & do not try to cheat you.