I've been to Vegas many times before and had the pleasure of seeing more than a few wonderful providers there. There were a few bad experiences as well, but overall Vegas was a fun place to visit.
On my most recent trip I noticed the "Vegas Upsell" has really gotten out of hand. Basically lots of providers will quote slightly lower to reasonable price when you contact them. If you don't do your homework you will discover the reasonable rate is basically for her to "show up" and give you a 15 minute HJ. Want her to take off her clothes it's an upsell, bra another upsell, panties another upsell, BJ upsell, kissing upsell, full service upsell, 2nd provider ... it would probably be easier to negotiate world peace and pay off the national debt compared to negotiating that upsell.
There have been numerous posts on the Vegas board about this, it's become an accepted behavior there, and pointless to discuss. I hope this is a trend that stays in Vegas because it sucks the fun out out things. if you do happen to visit Vegas stick to the established providers with good reviews, you'll get what you want and it will probably be cheaper in the long run instead going off the reservation looking for that diamond in the rough and TOFTT.
my 2 cents
They know the odds of seeing repeat clients is slim to none. Almost no one that's in Vegas (including the locals) are originally from Vegas. The girls know guys are flush with cash and many are stupid and wasted. They're easy marks for usell and ripoffs. IMO it's one of the worst hobby places in the world unless you do a lot of homework, and ground work prior to a trip out there. Many B&S girls, upsell, Trannys, R.O.B.S, addicts etc. (Sounds like Back Pages right?) LOL
As for NY having a lot of upsell girls -- there will always be a few, but not even close to Vegas. Much more stability, and many more locals here with roots. NY has many tourists of course, but we also have a sense of community and roots lacking in LV. Vegas is fly by night city. NYC will never have the upsell & R.O.B. issues LV has.
Vegas is like any other place. Use TER or p411and you will have a great time.
There are man, many, many reputable providers in LV, myself included, that would never upsell. All of the ladies I see posting weekly ads on TER and the ladies on P411 have set donation amounts.
From what I understand low brow agencies run backpage and the girls have to collect an agency fee first, then hustle and upsell to make their own donation...not so with independent girls found on reputable sites such as this.
Please don't lump all LV providers into a group because you didn't do your homework...
Smile!
xo
SS
You actually met with me this past month in Vegas and i did not pull any of that up sell. So if you stick with well known indie providers (such as myself ) then that kind of stuff does not happen.
XO
LaRue McCay
It had nothing to do with my time seeing you LaRue. My experience with you was amazing and better than I had hoped for.
I had a different experience earlier in the week where the exact opposite happened.
Just like anything else you have to do your research.
You can get taken advantage of anywhere it just depends on the company that you call on.
Yes there are lots of scams in Las vegas but that dosent mean you have to be a part of it at all.
No one is in control but yourself and if things go sideways you only have you to blame.
Posted By: BeenStrokin
They know the odds of seeing repeat clients is slim to none. Almost no one that's in Vegas (including the locals) are originally from Vegas. The girls know guys are flush with cash and many are stupid and wasted. They're easy marks for usell and ripoffs. IMO it's one of the worst hobby places in the world unless you do a lot of homework, and ground work prior to a trip out there. Many B&S girls, upsell, Trannys, R.O.B.S, addicts etc. (Sounds like Back Pages right?) LOL
As for NY having a lot of upsell girls -- there will always be a few, but not even close to Vegas. Much more stability, and many more locals here with roots. NY has many tourists of course, but we also have a sense of community and roots lacking in LV. Vegas is fly by night city. NYC will never have the upsell & R.O.B. issues LV has.
..and the only time that happened to me was my first trip. I used back page and casino girls and got the upsell routine from all of them. Since then I have stuck with well reviewed ladies from p411 and never had an issue since and never an upsell. Guess it just boils down to where you look.
What you described in your report is typical escort service behavior so I kind of doubt that you really saw any of Vegas finest ladies. It is not "accepted behavior there" either by the way and that type of situation usually only befalls those too lazy to do their homework or newbies who think they will find gold on back page.
I went to a traveling provider two weeks ago in NYC. During the session she says that we are running low on time. The alarm clock was unplugged and I mentally lose track of time during sessions. So I am freaking out that I am overstaying my hour and our appointment is ruined because my head is spinning since I am thinking about this over and over in my noggin. I stop start to put on my pants and check my phone 5 minutes later. I still had over 15 minutes to go, so she brought this up with 20 minutes left. At her rate that was $166 on the meter. I was pissed. She was a well reviewed TER provider who must have picked up that bad habit from "the ranch" she used to work at in Vegas. This recent "upsell" has totally put me into hibernation. I am done for a little while.
Poor Form,
J
Its very simple to answer this one - You pay your VIP TER for a reason USE it.
Posted By: thatmgdude
I've been to Vegas many times before and had the pleasure of seeing more than a few wonderful providers there. There were a few bad experiences as well, but overall Vegas was a fun place to visit.
On my most recent trip I noticed the "Vegas Upsell" has really gotten out of hand. Basically lots of providers will quote slightly lower to reasonable price when you contact them. If you don't do your homework you will discover the reasonable rate is basically for her to "show up" and give you a 15 minute HJ. Want her to take off her clothes it's an upsell, bra another upsell, panties another upsell, BJ upsell, kissing upsell, full service upsell, 2nd provider ... it would probably be easier to negotiate world peace and pay off the national debt compared to negotiating that upsell.
There have been numerous posts on the Vegas board about this, it's become an accepted behavior there, and pointless to discuss. I hope this is a trend that stays in Vegas because it sucks the fun out out things. if you do happen to visit Vegas stick to the established providers with good reviews, you'll get what you want and it will probably be cheaper in the long run instead going off the reservation looking for that diamond in the rough and TOFTT.
my 2 cents
The vegas board does not condone behavior as far as upselling gents and being dishonest.
Where did you see these posts where we condone this behavior?
If anything when gents come to the vegas board and ask about a certain lady they saw in an ad or inquire where is a good place/bar to pick up a provider.The vegas community is usually pretty helpful we will try to point him in the right direction and to stay clear of the casino girls and the upselling.
I am based in vegas I am highly reviewed and have never ever tried to upsell anyone.
There are so many of us reputable ladies that have built our reputations on being honest and proving we provide a satisfactory service.
If a gent does not do his homework and research before he goes to any city he will be disappointed.
I have spoken to so many gents who are ter members they have come to vegas and other cities and have encountered an upsell,bait and switch,a few occurences even being robbed in all those situations the common denominator was not enough research.
I hate to hear about gents who have came to vegas and did not enjoy themselves but please do not lump all of us providers into the same category.A simple search on las vegas board and read some of the past posts would be very useful on things to avoid in vegas.But,why because a gent gets taken advantage of by a bar girl,casino girl,bait and switch,or shady agency vegas is a terrible place to hobby?
I totally agree that if a gent does go with a well-reviewed reputable provider he will have an awesome time toftt definitely does not work in vegas or anywhere for that matter unless the gent is going to assume the risk of doing so without complaining if he made the wrong decision.Especially when there are so many tools at his disposal(ter vip to be one of them) to insure a naughty time versus being disappointed with a hard c*** and a lot of wasted money.
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for 10 years.
Never been upsold, not once.
I do have regular girls there I see. I am in LV 2 or 3 times per year. It is in the lady's best interest to make me a happy customer.
You Moron! It all depends upon whom you see in Vegas!
Choose a well-reviewed Provider, and there are no problems.
Pick up some dame at a bar, or on BP or sometimes even EROS, and you're simply rolling the dice and asking for upsell tactics.
I've Hobbied in Vegas for many years, and have never been caught in that trap with a well-reviewed Provider that I found on TER, or similar legit review sites.
Since you have ten reviews of your own, I'm surprised you got duped.
Never had any bad experiences. Like anywhere else, it pays to do your homework, read reviews, attend M&G's, and make an informed decision. If you want to take your chances with TOFTT, be prepared for all of the potential downsides. That not only applies in Vegas, but also in NYC, and pretty much everywhere else as well.
While there certainly are scams in Vegas that feed on the uninformed and the last minute horny toads that have lost every brain cell in their big head and rely on the throbbing little head to seek poon, Vegas also has a bevy of some of the hottest rock-your-world ladies you'll find anywhere! Not that I put too much stock in the ratings here, but last time I checked, LV has more ladies in the Top 100 nationally than any other city! And when the gal that many of us consider to be the poster "slut" of the Hobby Hall of Fame is only currently "ranked" No. 29, well, I rest my case, your honor!!
That being said, you finished up your post by advising to stick to established providers.......spot on!
I'm sure it's been said, but you MUST be looking in the wrong place! The well reviewed TER ladies are absolutely some of the best! Most of my time is spent in L.A.; but I've hobbied in LV, NY and MIA. Never been upsold, mostly because I did my research. Personally, I think you got jobbed by scammers. The right ladies in Vegas are a joy to be with!
As the saying goes...you get what you pay for! There are many many top shelf Independents in LV...like moi!
Best to plan ahead and not bottom feed...
All the best!
Clair Jordan
Not all Agencies upsell. We never upsell and if we find out one of our girls is upselling a client she is fired. He have some top ladies in Vegas and we never upsell...
This was your fault...please own it. You didn't do your research and thought you were getting a deal. Well you got a deal...it may have not been the deal your little head anticipated...but it was a deal.
