Seems more than just a few these days are charging these rates, enough to where it's really starting to stand out.  When I first entered the scene in '04, I remember the avg. rate for the hour being $300-350...then within a few yrs., $500 became the avg. rate...now it seems $600-750 is becoming the avg. rate.  So basically then, a few yrs. from now, I guess we're talking the avg. hourly rate breaking in at the $1000 mark.

I'm based out of Ft. Lauderdale and the average down there is around $300.  I am in Manhattan right now and have not changed my rate - it stands on my website $225 per fun filled hour.  It will not change ever.  Now cum see me

I've seen a lot of top gals all over the metro area and I've paid between $260 and $500.  My average is probably about $350.  The top price I ever paid was $700, and that was only once.  Most of the gals I've seen in the past two weeks were priced at $400.

These days, strategic pricing is the name of the game....

Although it's been said a gazillion times before, it bears repeating.... Gals that place themselves at a higher price point these days will wait for the phone to ring a lot longer. The gals that price their time at a moderate rate are going to have more active schedule with sessions. It's simple economics and considering the long drawn out grueling economy, the smart gals are the ones that set their prices at reasonable rates, but to each his or her own.

nycad

But it's common for someone to make a post like this and they have never written a review for their fellow hobbiest!

Now why is that?

It's not the average that has gone up.  It's that the girls that you see who have raised their rates.  

The girls who charged $300-$350 7 years ago now charge $600-$750 or more.  Often, the longer someone stays in the business the higher their prices go.  (Not always, but certainly often enough)

That said, when I started I mostly saw girls in the 300/hour 500/2 range.  Now, I find that often it's 350 or 400/1 and 700/2.  

And, there are always new girls coming into the business and there are plenty of people out there even in the 200-300/hour range.

Note: I am not speaking about quality, nor bringing up whether price range affects quality of service.  I am sticking with the basic question of average pricing.

traveling ladies visiting NYC that automatically jack up their rates.  OK, it's your service and you have the right to charge what you want. But is a hotel in Miami, Chicago or LA any cheaper than NYC?

Ladies that live in NYC do have higher costs, no question.

But remember the big stock boom days are over and Wall St. bonuses are few and far between.

Maybe it's better to have 2 dates a day at $750 then 5 dates a day at $300 ... if you can get it.

the longer you morons condone those fucking prices the longer you are going to get taken advantage of.

Budgets have nothing to do with wise choices  and spending control. Grow the fuck up.

If you do a TER review search for providers in the New York area with 8-10 overall average ratings, you'll find that most charge well above $500/hr. My recollection is that this wasn't the case three to five years ago (I don't have any hard facts—never kept records or stats—but I've done this search many times over the years).

I believe that providers have become much smarter and more sophisticated about pricing as the business has become more digital. Higher ratings allow them to charge higher rates, and they take full advantage of it. So, those of us on the consumer end, as we give high ratings to providers, are inadvertently putting inflationary pressure on prices.

When my wife gave $300 bj's the service was more enthusiastic IMO. Now, the bj's ARE comparable to $1000 lmao and less numerous.

I married a utr provider fellows.

I work with a lot of people who travel for business and, on average, accommodations in NYC are much more expensive then when they travel to other cities.

..there are providers and then there are those who are extraordinary providers. Not everyone is the same category when it comes to rates. Looks, performance, attitude, personality, speciality talents - these add up to an 'experience' rather than an 'act' and not everyone is the same category when it comes to the results. Those that want quickies get what they pay for. If you are looking for something higher end, you pay the price. Not all ladies are alike. Many are beautiful and charge a lot of money but suck in the bedroom. Some aren't so gorgeous but are fabulous in the sack. Some charge way too much for being a porn star - some charge too less for their talents and accolades. I prefer the higher quality of the spectrum - (we are talking NYC now) - for medium to high end girls - 500-700/hr, 2 hrs (900-1200) with anything over that is silly. Those that charge over 1000 an hour are delusional and the guys that pay are idiots. Yes, the economy sucks but not everyone is broke and well when it comes down to it the cream will always rise to the top; hence great reviews and word of mouth. Happy Hunting!

guy that's paying more than $1,200 a pop is not delusional.  He's the guy making $750k a yr with a big expense account, stock options, company car, etc.  

A grand means nothing to him.  And the smart ladies seek them out.  When you see ads at $1,000 an hour or more, those providers are looking for the big bucks executives.  Can't say I blame them.

As long as fools keep paying for what they believe to be chic items, bottled water at Lugers vs McDonalds, high end ladies vs the same services and quality at 300 then the prices will remain high on your lady friends.  Demand drops off on the high end, prices will drop down to meet demand.  

But remember, there is a fool born every minute and the number one fool is the little head.  Never thinks with reason, only impulse.

..I concur. It's obvious that certain 'hobbyists' are looking for the SALE items to ransack rather than tasting  fine wines due to their wishes to get a lot of pussy at a bargain. I prefer the latter. I don't make over 750K a year but my budget works for quality not quantity experiences. There's a reason certain providers have such low donations hence poor to medium reviews, shady reputations, average to above average looks, and the like. Obviously there are exceptions but hey, we are in NYC for god's sake. Get over it all you pundits. If you can't stand the heat then get the hell out of the kitchen!

If you walk into a room with your eyes closed, get a blow job, and then leave, then you can say whether or not there is a difference between the $300 BJ and the $1000 BJ.

But when you are seeing a girl for an hour, the BJ is just a small part of the experience, and it's the whole experience that makes it worth more or less money.

I don't know where YourBig is staying, but any hotel in NYC worth spending a night in is going to cost significantly more than in the rest of the country.  As a heavy business traveler I can say this with absolute certainty.  I thought it was common knowledge.

I see a lot of rationalizing in this thread by men who can't go meet certain price requirements.  I'd probably make such simple-minded statements too if my hobby budget were limited.

What makes you think I'm getting taken advantage of?  If it were to turn out that you were spending a far greater percentage of your income on escorts, yet you were paying less for each encounter, which one of us would be wiser in our choices?

Re Re: I agree with inicky46 on this.....

socracy, I don't know, you're saying my assertions are a little self serving, I'm just applying my logic to the current state of the economy. noting more - nothing less. Hey, if a gal wants to charge $700 and she gets a boatload of calls, fantastic, but if she gets less calls, It may very well have to do with the price point, based on the current economy at large. Less discretionary funds available to play, less hobbyist are going to easily throw around $700 or more. But then again, this is neither here nor there. There are so many variables attached to how successful one provider is as opposed to another. I'm just attaching the variable of the current economy to this discussion. And if you look at the conversation based on just that alone, it's a valid assertion with no connection to my own point of view.

I wish everyone success, it's just not all that easy in this current economic landscape. Just my .02 cents.

nycad

The free BJ from your wife should suffice, shouldn't it?

Neither is the service from one provider to another.  I rest my case.

Review or no review I have to go with RkR. Looking through Eros a majority of the girls I would want to see are over 600. I stick with AC but even their rates have gone up. I understand the price of hotels has increased but I don't think that is the reason for the rise in prices.  The problem is there are enough hobbyists willing to pay that much.

It's simple economics and market forces.  A girl will generally charge as much as she can.  There are a few exceptions, but most girls will raise rates if it means more revenue.

A girl who charges $650 when the market rate is $500 has to justify her premium, or she has to lower her rates unless she doesn't care about a decreasing number of clients.

Yes, they really are.  Check the prices at the Peninsula in Chicago vs. the Peninsula in LA and the Peninsula in NYC.

Or the Four Seasons.

A shitty hotel in NYC is $350/night pretty easily.  $350/night in LA or Chicago will get you much, much farther.  I lived in LA, live in NYC, and traveled to Chicago often.  I'm pretty informed on this subject, I think.

You made the definitive statement that providers at moderate prices were smart, so it follows that you believe providers at higher price points are not.

i'm not sure why the market for hobbyists and providers is any different from any other market. providers charge rates as a way of "product differentiation" as they say in your old marketing 101 class. they charge rates with an idea of how to maximize revenues, given the "costs", as they say in your old econ 101 class. if a provider charges $700 and finds that she is getting "only " half the traffic she does at the $500 price point, you do the math. if she's only getting 25% of the traffic, again, do the math. for those of you that don't like the prices, you've selected your menu and gone for the lower price point. nothing wrong with that. but not sure why there's complaining about it, and why there are comments like "as long as you suckers keep paying these exorbitant amounts, the longer the market prices are artificially inflated". ummmmm... this IS a market: prices are gonna adjust based on supply and demand, like anything else. providers would be quite silly to "leave money on the table" and not try to maximize profits.

did you guys fall asleep in class? or just cut class?

Not necessarily true....That economics bullshit works in class but sometimes not in the real world.  remember there is a point of ego involved here.  I know some girls that keep there rates high because some other "bitch" that they are "hotter" than charges that rate.  Heard this many times from high end providers.  I try to reason but they will not cut their rate.  Even a few tell me "hey, things are very slow know espically since the econmoy is dow".  Then honey cut your rate but they never do..  I know you don't believe some of these ladies sit around and justify the maximizing profits stuff like an analyst at Morgan Stanley would.  Trust me it never goes through some of their minds.  Prices do not adjust on supply and demand in some businesses and this is one of them.  When irrational thinking goes into the decision to buy the product.  (Not trying to say women are a product).  But I am sure most hobbists went through with a session and then said Damn, if only I was thinking I would not have done that.  Supply and Demand are not perfect in this microeconomic field (if you can call it that).

NEVER assume the $1,000 gals are waiting for the phone to ring or that the lack of reviews indicate that.

I personally knew a NYC high-end outcall indy who saw guys in D.C., Vegas, London, and NYC ... and she had 1 Ter review.  That's right ... 1 review.  And I know for a fact she was seeing guys for at least 3 yrs on a steady basis.  

Why 1 review ?: because her well-heeled corporate execs and government guys DO NOT WRITE REVIEWS!  

A/C is an agency - please don't compare them to independents. They most likely only get half of their cover price and work a lot harder than any independents. Plus A-listers equal good reputations and good reviews. Not all providers are the same. I can't stand those who say a blow job is a blow job comparing it to water. WTF?  Obviously, there is talent and there is a person behind the lips.

yes, not all high end providers who are charging 600 per hour and 700 per hour are getting that kind of money.. these providers are NOT busy... and they are refusing to reduce their prices.  That is not good business model.

Your rates is not how much you are worth... you have to go by the market value.  If the economy is bad you reduce your prices.

The average rate in NYC should be 400 - and 500 due to the economy that we are having right now.  The girls that charge 400 per hour still get the executives, the hedge fund, the high profile clients still call them and set up appointments.. so you get the high clientele either you charge 400 or 700.  The girls that are charging 600 or 700 per hour as long as you guys are willing to pay, they will keep charging.  but I am sure they have to have another job besides providing... Because trust me their phones are not ringing off the hook due to the current econonmy... just think about..

With a 400 or 500 per hour girl, you will get the same excellent service,  beauty, and the brains as the same way with provider charging  600 or 700, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder... what could be a 10 for you, might not be a 10 to another guy..

You say "the average rate in NYC should be 400- and 500 due to the economy that we are having right now." On what evidence or economic model are you basing this statement?

It would be just as easy for a hobbyist at a lower price point to state, "the average rate in NYC should be 200–300/hour."

How is the price established? Not by normal market forces, as some have argued. Transactions for commercial sexual services don't necessarily follow the same rules as transactions for normal goods and services. We're talking about people with addictive behavioral patters buying services—so, if there's any similar economic model, illicit drugs would be the model. How is the price for cocaine set? In fact, I've seen analyses showing that consumers are willing to pay very high prices for cocaine when there have been LE crackdowns in the past because their addiction overcomes rational supply/demand patterns.

If the average price in the middle market has gone up in recent years, you have to look at what else has changed in the market to influence that inflation. For example, has the price of doing business in the NYC market increased (hotel prices, food prices) enough to impact price? I argued in my earlier post that the star system on boards like these, and the review rating system contributes to price inflation, because it creates an artificial demand for the services of a few, select providers, who are then able to up their rates. And once the price is set for the most valued services, those below will follow suit, to the extent that the market will bare.

So, to a certain extent those who argue that we're partially to blame are absolutely correct. But there's a lot more to the story.