I'm curious how everyone feels about mostly (new) clients that cancel last minute or do not even show up without any communication on the day of . Is there anything we (as providers) can do to alleviate this dilemma? Getting ready, spending the preparation to meet with someone takes time; there are many details associated with seeing someone who has already booked (and sometimes even confirmed hours before). Now don't get me wrong; absolutely there are emergencies, important things that come up but why not call or email back? Is it embarrassment, fear just being narcissistic and perhaps rude? It has happened to me several times and to be honest, I really don't give that person anymore room to see me as my time is vitally important in my life. What I DO love though is those gentlemen that have the courtesy and sweetness to give me at least 24 hours notice so I can either re-schedule that time or make other plans. Any ideas...?
kisses,
xoxoxoox
Chloe
It could be Buyers Remorse prior to the appointment. At your rate of $750/hr. in a deep recession many guys will see pictures of you, read reviews get horny as Hell, and then decide at the last minute they don't want to drop over $800 in an afternoon.
Secondly, you must screen better, or hire a better screener. Reputable hobbyists rarely pull No Call No Show. Make sure you re-confirm as well.
Thank you for your comments Provider..rider - I agree to disagree though...it's not about my rates it's about my time. There is no excuse period to pull a no show to anyone even if their rates are higher or lower. It truly comes to RUDENESS. Also, my screener is the absolute BEST and these guys (yes, legitimately) believe that their time is more important than (providers) time. That's what gets me going. Reputable (whatever that means) hobbyists still do no shows and cancel right before their appointment. I don't know if you are a provider or an agency but in any case, shit happens and all I'm asking is for ideas - not a remedy to bash my screener or how I do things.
If the price is too much, then the guy shouldn't schedule in the first place.
Guys who are no-shows will do it at any price. And the same for girls who also flake.
The only thing you can do is screen as best as you can, and warn people in advance that you have a cancellation policy and those who are no-shows are required to pay for the session (or a percentage of it) and if they don't then they will be blacklisted.
Posted By: Waterclone
If the price is too much, then the guy shouldn't schedule in the first place.
Guys who are no-shows will do it at any price. And the same for girls who also flake.
The only thing you can do is screen as best as you can, and warn people in advance that you have a cancellation policy and those who are no-shows are required to pay for the session (or a percentage of it) and if they don't then they will be blacklisted.
I LOVE THAT
Thank you so much for your well sounded advice....xoxoxooxox CC
This was my guess as well. After looking at the reviews and pictures , many decide to go for it in the heat of the moment. As the time nears, they realize their finances stink, job security is low, and Econ is horrible.
Posted By: provider..rider
It could be Buyers Remorse prior to the appointment. At your rate of $750/hr. in a deep recession many guys will see pictures of you, read reviews get horny as Hell, and then decide at the last minute they don't want to drop over $800 in an afternoon.
Secondly, you must screen better, or hire a better screener. Reputable hobbyists rarely pull No Call No Show. Make sure you re-confirm as well.
.......I just returned from touring Boston, and did not have one advance cancellation or NCNS. All but two dates were multi hour. I think it is because I screen very well (name, place of employment, etc), visit with newbies (who rarely cancel), and because I send a confirmation e-mail the evening before. And, I always speak with my gentlemen via phone to say hello. This makes it more personal.
And yes, it could be Buyers Remorse, or simply "cold feet syndrome". Just my .02.
Hugs and Kisses
Happens all the time to me.
is a NCNS we hobbyist can go to the boards and bitch & moan and maybe even "out" her. Hell...we might even get a free extented session if the babe wishes to repair her rep. But sadly , when it is the other way around , I know of little the Provider can do. Black listing someone without knowing the circumstance seems a little harsh Actually I can not imagine anyone lucky enough to book with you being a NS except for circumstances they have no control over. Like getting hit by a cab on the way over. I suspect you are already pretty selective as to whom you see. And it would be my assumption you are low volume. If I am correct then you might consider booking only with individuals who have a long board history and plenty of reviews under their belts. And the reviews represent experience with higher end ladies like you...not AMPs and $250 he BP babes. Sadly , we dudes can go to plan B or turn on the porn. For you , of course, the NS is costly and disruptive. Hopfully someone will have a better response than I can think of.
Obviously they are on your own DNS list. And if you shared your story on the Providers Board that would be fine, too.
I don't see what "buyer's remorse" has to do with it, though I guess it's possible. Actually, I recall thinking as I was driving to see you, "What are you, nuts? How can you spend this much money?" Afterwards, however, (and ever since) I thought, "Best money I ever spent."
Bottom line: there's probably no magic bullet. Maybe it's just the economic times but it also may just be a run of bad luck. It will pass. The advice about screening guys to include their reviews would help weed out the losers.
Posted By: inicky46
Obviously they are on your own DNS list. And if you shared your story on the Providers Board that would be fine, too.
I don't see what "buyer's remorse" has to do with it, though I guess it's possible. Actually, I recall thinking as I was driving to see you, "What are you, nuts? How can you spend this much money?" Afterwards, however, (and ever since) I thought, "Best money I ever spent."
Bottom line: there's probably no magic bullet. Maybe it's just the economic times but it also may just be a run of bad luck. It will pass. The advice about screening guys to include their reviews would help weed out the losers.
I would not share any names with any discussion boards; I just prefer to bow out and not see them. One time is a grace, two or more is a disgrace...LOL
I am sorry guys are pulling tricks on you.
I guess, like someone said, buyers remorse.
Guys get hot looking at the ads, book the ladies not thinking with their heads (but with their dicks) and, the day before the appointment, they start to think about the money and how spending in a luxury will impact their current finances.
Unfortunately, many touring ladies coming to NYC are having the same issues as you.
Just today, a lady staying at this place across the street from me asked if I had time to go over and chat.
She had a 4 hours appointment scheduled for today and the guy was a NCNS - he was someone she met few times before. He just told her 'he forgot' they had something booked up.
She's a lady who just see one or two multiple hours client a day while she visits, so he did put a dent on her business, because he was her only appointment today.
I am not sure how it works between you and your screener, but I am going to give you the same advice I gave to her.
Her screener makes the appointments and gets the confirmations - she never actually speaks with the clients prior the meeting.
So, I suggested for her to call the client the day before, to remind him IF there are any changes on his schedule and he cannot make it, to contact her asap. Also, to say she is very low volume and he is the only person booked for the day.
Then, call again the morning of the appointment, like around 9AM, make sure to get the guy on the phone, to hear his confirmation. If he doesn't pick up, leave a voice mail saying he needs to call before 11AM (just an example) or you will assume he will not be able to come and you will plan your day in a different way.
I told her to never turn down potential clients just because she has someone booked for the same day/time. Ask them if they want to be screened and be contacted in case she gets a cancelation.
Is what I do, I have a 'waiting' list. If I get a cancelation or I cannot reach a client to get a confirmation the morning of, I do contact the guys on my list and ask if they are interested. It works, 90% of the time I get someone else to fill my availability.
Personally, I think calling the day before and the morning of, helps me to run my schedule without glitches.
I do not post their information on blacklists but I do program their numbers on my cell phone as NCNS or LMC (last minute cancelation), so if they call me again, I will not answer.
I hope this helps.
told me last week she was having a lot more cancellations and no shows than ever before. I asked her if she thought it was the economy and she said no. She believes it's mostly younger guys who simply don't know how to behave. And she's one of the savviest girls I know. Only Chloe can say if she knows how old her no-shows were.
tell them they have to call you by a certain time frame if they dont call you then give the appointment away.
Posted By: Chloe_Carter
I'm curious how everyone feels about mostly (new) clients that cancel last minute or do not even show up without any communication on the day of . Is there anything we (as providers) can do to alleviate this dilemma? Getting ready, spending the preparation to meet with someone takes time; there are many details associated with seeing someone who has already booked (and sometimes even confirmed hours before). Now don't get me wrong; absolutely there are emergencies, important things that come up but why not call or email back? Is it embarrassment, fear just being narcissistic and perhaps rude? It has happened to me several times and to be honest, I really don't give that person anymore room to see me as my time is vitally important in my life. What I DO love though is those gentlemen that have the courtesy and sweetness to give me at least 24 hours notice so I can either re-schedule that time or make other plans. Any ideas...?
kisses,
xoxoxoox
Chloe
1) Let's start with statistics:
a) In 7 years I have cancelled twice. with 24 hours notice.
b) In the last 4 weeks I was left hanging by the ladies 4 times, in some cases with explanations later on (but not at the time!).
c) From the research aspect not relevant, but emotionally yes.
2) How often were we left hanging since the phone said that the mailbox was full??? And thus we could not even get the room number in the hotel!
3) The lady can avoid her problem by insisting that she receive a confirming call 2 hours before the appointment (similar to what dreamagirlsnj proposes). But again, that only works if her voice mail box is not full.
4) The client can only express his disappointment by never calling her again.
5) The whole thing is a business for her (most of the time), but an emotional disappointment for him. Let's not do it.
Communication makes it right for me. I have been asked to wait an hour or more or reschedule when a hotel room was not available to the provider. No ones fault just natural interference. There are other circumstances like dead cell phones, etc. that I understand can hamper the communication. However when I am left on the street waiting for a call (especially if its raining or 100degrees) and I receive no communication at the time or later I can relate to the Chloe's challenge. Young or inexperienced is what goes through my mind because respect and relationships are a basic part of this intimate game.
Mr. new client ought to apologize. Explanations should be optional but can help.
Could some of it be the profession that the client is in? I know there are many fields where 'emergencies' literally pop up in a moments notice (by these emergencies I mean true life and death situations) People of these professions may schedule on a good date only for it to change literally last minute.
If the provider screens, as some do, and asks for the clients profession (and he willing gives the info) then does the provider not know something could happen?
My early years in the NYC business world and daily expense account lunches and dinners with clients. A co-worker habitually made reservations at several restaurants and never bothered to cancel the ones he did not honor. In time he morphed into a chronic complainer “I know damn well I had a reservation and those bastards didn’t have a table for me!” Seems he never understood why no one else had the same problem at the same restaurants. This narcissist also would make several airline reservations, different times and/or different airlines (back in the days before computers and super security) failing to cancel any he did not honor.
In the approximately 3 years I have been a TER member, I’ve noticed an increase in the number of posters both male and female whose only aim is to promote chaos. This, in turn, has led many of the best of the best providers to post less and less on TER even to the point of almost never because so much ugliness is permeating some boards. My personal opinion is that the low lifes both male and female will probably have a short shelf life and if we look on the bright side, they do deserve one another.
One way to discourage the low lifes is to emulate the high end providers who exact a monetary penalty for a no-show. A favorite of mine does just that, she continues to have a thriving business because fighting fire with fire IS good business. e.g., last week I had occasion to make lunch and dinner reservations at 2 five and 2 four star Manhattan restaurants. All but one asked for a credit card which would be charged in the event of a no-show and judging by the packed houses, their business is not suffering in this admittedly bad economy.
The angry haters, no-shows and bargain hunters will rant and rave and deride you for it but for the most part you’d be screening them out anyway.
you analogy of a restaurant taking a credit card number just doesn't work here. No one would, or should, give a provider a credit card #. Ever. Others on this thread have suggested better ways to deal with this situation.
a personal credit card. Prepaid visa cards, money orders are other ways to go and if the no-show has a truly valid excuse and demonstrates it with coin of the realm, an honest provider will take a show of integrety into consideration and who knows, as the saying goes, "... the beginning of a beautiful friendship?"
A couple months ago, I had made arrangements to meet a young lady who had advertised here on the NY board two or three times, but had not been able to get her first TER review.
A little less than an hour before the appointment she emails to cancel. The excuse was that she overslept.
How about another Apropot Cliche?
Fool me once... no more appointments for you!
You just broke the posting rules. So I think you're someone else! Who cares. Too bad I try to play by the rules or I'd have answered with my inooky46 alias! LOL!
Hi Chloe, just ask for an am confirmation on the day of the appointment. If you dont hear from the client, give them a call. No reply/no appointment. I went through this myself when I first started. And now it never happens. If someone has to cancel, they call me in the morning. Good Luck, Nicole
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Posted By: sparkleny
Hi Chloe, just ask for an am confirmation on the day of the appointment. If you dont hear from the client, give them a call. No reply/no appointment. I went through this myself when I first started. And now it never happens. If someone has to cancel, they call me in the morning. Good Luck, Nicole
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The funny thing is that I do confirm on the 'day' and yet it happens anyways...lol - go figure. In any case, I'm getting a lot of wonderful advise from everyone; yay!!!! Such good peeps on this discussion board..
NCNS is never acceptable, period. As for cancelling same day, I've had to do this several times because of professional emergencies, and I once had to cancel two nights in a row because of damage caused to my home as a result of major basement flooding. Regardless of that, I have found that when shit happens, the best thing to do is be honest with the lady and let her know the score, and to reschedule as soon as possible. Seems simple, really...
I for one try very hard to never Cancel an appt without a fair amount of notice and a very good reason. After all this is a business. On the other hand I have been left hanging by a provider more times than I would like to admit. With no notice and for no apparent reason. Not even the courtesy of a call or a text. They just decide to stop taking your calls. Tell you to show up and then never answer when you do.
So although I don't condone canceling on a provider maybe it is poetic justice !!
paid taxes on all that cash you were stickin in your pocket you know what it's like in the real world.
$750 an hour and your bitchin! In this freakin ecomomy, what a joke. Oh that's right, I forgot your Loubatin shoes are $800 a pair.
And all you guys that are kissin up to her ought to wake up.
Posted By: BiteMyJohnson
paid taxes on all that cash you were stickin in your pocket you know what it's like in the real world.
$750 an hour and your bitchin! In this freakin ecomomy, what a joke. Oh that's right, I forgot your Loubatin shoes are $800 a pair.
And all you guys that are kissin up to her ought to wake up.
So do you really think with your ALIAS that anyone cares about your silly rant? You can't even expose your self authentically so why would anyone care about your negative comments. I certainly don't. It's obvious that you prefer to hide and throw rocks rather than adding adding to this thread in a more adult way. Wishing you tons of positivity and much love,
xoxoxoxoxo
Chloe
ps. I wasn't bitchin honey I was just asking for some solutions for ALL providers who have the same dilemma as I do.
It's the same no class idiot posting again under an alias.
The same guy who posted under:
ihatefuglygurls
fuckallofyou
cupidsbrotherwtf
and now "bitemyjohnson"
Main handle is: luvlife17 (he is always one of the top 10 posters on this board)
He must be bipolar because in one thread he praises Chloe and in the other he insults her about what she charges...
Posted By: moonman1
I for one try very hard to never Cancel an appt without a fair amount of notice and a very good reason. After all this is a business. On the other hand I have been left hanging by a provider more times than I would like to admit. With no notice and for no apparent reason. Not even the courtesy of a call or a text. They just decide to stop taking your calls. Tell you to show up and then never answer when you do.
So although I don't condone canceling on a provider maybe it is poetic justice !!
Moonman I totally sympathize with you! Although getting back at each other is probably not the most positive outcome that can transpire; as clients and providers we all need to be professional when it comes to other people's time. Cancelling within an appropriate time frame works but there is no excuse to not answer the phone or cancel in a text message an hour before your appointment. I get that everyone has their 'story'...don't we all? But manners in this industry is imperative with both client and provider. Neither should show bad behavior as their reputations can get tarnished and could minimize their chances of seeing other prospective liaisons in the future. Just my .2 xoxoxoxoxox CC
things happen in life on both ends. if i have to cancel last minute i offer to pay a cancellation fee or the entire amount. can't get back time. it's up to the provider to do what she believes is right and good business sense.
if a provider cancels on me last minute....i just move on.
this happened two weeks ago to me.....rather than get all pissed off, i called up a college buddy i haven't seen in a long time and took him to lunch. caught up on old times and had a few laughs. would i see this provider again...sure.....if it happened again with no good reason, then move on. life is to short to worry about this stuff and you can't take this seriously.
OK, let me get this straight.
If you have to cancel you offer to pay a cancellation fee or the entire amount?
Is there a full moon?
