Hi All,

Generally speaking, specials are something that are offered to loyal customers.  If you want a birthday discount, you should see if someone you see regularly offer such. But most women aren't going to offer a discount to a stranger just because it's his birthday.  Especially someone who is traveling and won't become a regular.

Am I the only provider who gets mega-peeved by this "birthday special" question?

Great memories a number of times...including my last!

This has always bothered me a bit.  Fundamentally I see the provider and client as two people in a negotiation.  She has a service, and he has money.  It may be that the "he" in question tends to be thoughtful and a real gentlemen.  He may be more so than most "other clients".  Perhaps he brings gifts.  Perhaps he treats her better than most other guys.  Consequently she is happy to see him whenever he asks for an appointment.  Maybe he knows that on any given day, he is a more polite, thoughtful, nicer guy than the typical client.  So maybe he inquires if she would consider a discount.  She is certainly able to say no.  And if she asks, and she says no, he has to decide if he wants to continue to see her at her full rate.  Why should the guy be put on an immediate do not see list?  I had to see a surgeon once for an operation and we discussed his fee.  It was pretty high.  I found other competent surgeons who charged less.  I asked him for a discount on his fee.  He declined, but did not tell me to take my business elsewhere.  I liked his professional manner and his confidence so I stayed with him and everything worked out fine.  It was a fee for service business.  He was certainly allowed to say no to my request for a discount and did.  But there were no hard feelings and it all worked out in the end.  Just food for thought.

I don't think I have it backwards.  Fundamentally its now and always has been a negotiation.  In the words of Woody Allen, "the biggest sin in my family growing up was paying retail".

to be clear...I am not advocating that guys should always negotiate a ladies rates.  99% of the time he probably doesn't need to.  All I am saying is that if he "chooses" to ask for a discount, I don't think the mere act of doing so requires a "I will no longer see him" response.  The lady can simply hold firm her rate and the guy has to decide whether he wants to pay it.  No harm, no foul.

In my experience, if I think a client values my time less than I do...it's just not going to be as it could be if that wasn't the case. I would think a percentage of providers will place someone who asks for a discount on the DNS list simply for the reason that the fact of asking changed the dynamic in a negative manner. It's a boundary, and once crossed you can't hop back on the other side. Different women will have different feelings on this boundary-but, none the less, it does change matters. I have been asked for a discount in a manner that did not feel this way and preserved that boundary-the key difference is context and attitude. Anyone who is straight up looking to pay less than the stated consideration will definitely fall into the former category and I feel a gut reaction turn off. The feeling is similar to getting a milkshake you think is going to be really delicious and then accidentally dropping it on the ground before taking a sip. Disappointing but oh well!  

Its one thing to ask for $200 off a one hour session with a gal I have never met and quite another to sit down with a girl that I am lining her pocket book faithfully every month and work out an "arrangement." They are both "negotiations", but worlds apart.

They run a birthday special for half off. Not a shill just answering a question that was asked.  If anyone does not like that I answered the question then please go jump in a lake.

"Hey gimme a discount" wont work for most guys. LOL

My one experience asking for a discount. She's not reviewed here by me.  

Posted By: tim422

Hi All,  
   
 First off, apologies for this "cast a net" type of post, they tend to annoy me, but it's been years since I called NYC home and I am out of the loop with who's who.  
   
 Now, with that said I will be in NYC in a few weeks for my birthday (April 22) and am wondering if any companions offer birthday specials? Any local favorites that you can recommend would be much appreciated. No physical prerequisites, just someone who is cool as hell.  
   
 Thanks in advance!

I was speaking to things more in the spirit of the former

Our service is very different than other services.

Just to chime in:

Well stated Waterclone.

You  Nailed it Buddy !!!

P.S. I'm not surprised that you experience "shitty service and sub par beauty"---since you see ladies who accept negotiation!

I cannot fathom asking for a discount or otherwise negotiating with a provider.  I agree with provider4u and Lauren that the hobby is not a mere market place, and when you enter into this very intimate relationship, trying shave a few bucks off is going to change the dynamic and ruin the experience for both parties.  If a provider signals that the interaction is purely a transaction, the man is going to be very unhappy;  likewise if the guy treats the experience merely as a transaction then the woman will be rightfully turned off.  In some cases it may be a shared illusion, but that is whole point of the exercise: the creation of an temporary intimate relationship which eschews all the other trappings that society imposes on intimate relationships.  I for one am very grateful to have the opportunity of intimacy with beautiful and and intelligent women that would be unlikely under any other scenario, and have no quarrel with the initial opportunity cost.  In nearly four decades of the hobby I can count the number of times I felt that the experience to be purely transactional on one hand; now that can be a tribute to the skills of the women I have encountered, or ascribed to the fact that I am a particularly charming and wonderful guy, but the reality does not matter (and I suspect the reason is the former rather than the later).    I have no doubt that some will comment that market forces enter into a woman's decision as to setting her compensation, but that is solely her choice, just as a man is free to decline to engage her services at a particular rate.  Indeed, the client needs to set a price point that makes economic sense for him, and if he cannot afford a particular individual, he needs to chose a different price point that works on his comfort level.  Arrangements, as mentioned by JackDunphy, are a completely different matter as these are bespoke situations which require discussion to establish parameters on both sides.      

landlord it's my bday give me a discount.  

Over the years, I have never asked for a discount, either, yet a couple of my faves raised their rates significantly.  Those increases never applied to me by her say so, and these were/are ongoing relationships.  I've found that once you are established with them, just about anything can happen...and you'll find that you talk with them about just about anything as well.  Just don't be unreasonable with them, and NEVER discuss the monetary aspects unless she brings it up.  

Indeed  
It is exactly how I feel and taking in to consideration booking( or not booking) each particular date.

There is nothing like celebrating a birthday with your favorite lover! There are so many ways to celebrate other than financial considerations! I have made birthday cakes, brought cheesecakes and even once arranged a birthday orgy! Be creative! You can make their day more special than Hallmark!

Book a lady as you normally would. When you book, do not tell her it's your birthday present to yourself. When you meet, and *after* you pay her the regular fee up front, let her know during the course of conversation that this is your present to yourself. A quality companion who prides herself in giving great service will make sure you have a memorable celebration, one worth far more than any discount you might have haggled.

Agree completely.
The provider sets the terms, if you can't accept them find something else to do. Haggling makes me embarrassed on everyone's behalf. A punter who haggles tells the world two things: His opinion of himself (inflated) and of the provider (just a whore who should shut up and comply)