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Re: Some ladies have a ~15 minute M&G requirement for all new clients on their website
maturebridgette See my TER Reviews 1341 reads
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1 / 42

I wouldn't ask any provider for anything OTC unless she states she does do OTC meetings for coffee.

The only way I can see someone accepting OTC with a NEW and never booked client is that there MIGHT be the possibility for a very long extended apt, and even then... But even still, WE as providers have pretty much heard it all.

So, I doubt it.

BUt hey, the worst she can say is no..

You don't like what you see in her reviews, her website and anything else she has available, then I would doubt you would have any chemistry at all.

Just my as always, honest opinion

bluepillman 1054 reads
posted
3 / 42

High end ladies will view you as a time waster. Lots of guys want to "hang out" with hot girls for free. Too many guys willing to pay a high end girl for her to spend time with you for free. I have seem many girls OTC. But thats AFTER I have built a relationship of trust with them. To get OTC with them you have to prove yourself to THEM first, not the other way around. And even then, it doesnt happen often, and with some ladies, it doesnt happen at all.

inicky46 61 Reviews 1254 reads
posted
4 / 42

You really are paying for her time.  Remember, she could be doing a regular session for the full amount.  Never ask for OTC time up front.  You earn it by being a good client who she ends up liking.  You don't ask for it.  If she suggests it, or hints at it, then say you'd be happy to take her out.  I've done it lots of times this way.  But your approach will just piss her off.

LovetoDaty 7 Reviews 1203 reads
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5 / 42

I've seen this on a few Elite/VIP websites. They require a meeting in public right before the date like at a nearby coffee shop- often they have a charge (e.g. $100) for this brief meeting which some may apply to toward the date if you pass this "mutual compatability".

SONNY 1104 reads
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6 / 42

Hey how about this....make a decision ...good or bad !!!.....All these different posts about OTC..... It's a friggin hobby !!! make a decision and go with it...right or wrong....see her or don't see her.... I am not taking either side here...but really it's a friggin business decision on both sides....and the only way to go about any business decision is...either Do It or Don't Do iT !! then MOVE ON !!! ... Bottom line is if anyone asks about OTC ..... it's being CHEAP !!! Period !!!.... Think about it if you were in your own business whatever it might be, if you were with a new client and the first thing they said was can you let me not pay you till I decide if I like you or your work , how long would it be befroe that word got out and everyone was doing the same thing and then not paying for services rendered ..... come on ... after you get a new client and you choose to throw in extras ...whatever your line of work is different....that's Good Business !!!.... but... Candy Coat it all you want and I'm sure the retorts will be Priceless , As Always ...but that's really what it's about. Getting something for nothing is ...Usually.....a bad do....because YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!! ....Now...that all being said....if you establish with someone and hit it off and you both agree that's a different story ...but any .... right off the bat , " Can we do an OTC, so I can see if we'll like each other ? " STOP !!! ......just my opinion....... Fire Away !!!!....

jwk9 2 Reviews 913 reads
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7 / 42

Good escorts have no shortage of clients or opportunities, whether they're "high end" or not.  If you're interested in adding her to your regular rotation, the best way of doing so is by showing that you're willing to follow her terms and that you respect her time.  Include the initial meet and greet as part of your paid appointment.  Few things raise red flags more than someone who looks like they're trying to bargain.  

If you're really that worried about it, then try for a short phone call.  I've had some escorts ask me for a free half hour phone call to get to know each other.  Just avoid getting into a "checklist" discussion of "do you do this, do you do that."  If you're worried about what she'll do or won't do, that's what reviews are for.

inicky46 61 Reviews 1066 reads
posted
8 / 42

Very few do it, for the same reason I mentioned above.  Her time is her time.  What you do with it is up to you, but you'll pay the going rate 99 times out of 100.  And if you try to negotiate something like this with her beforehand, she'll be gone.

SerenaVincente See my TER Reviews 1136 reads
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9 / 42

it really depends not only on the kind of relationship you gys have, but also on other things, such as are you happy if she leaves you if a booking comes up, or would you be happier if you were the cause of her loss of earnings? ect  

I don't think we can help you as you know more about the kind of rapport you have with the lady  

Serena x

stl6468 5 Reviews 982 reads
posted
10 / 42

You're missing everyone else's point.  

You've had one and done appointments that left you less than satisfied?  Well welcome to the club!  I'd say everyone that's been in the hobby more than 5 minutes is a member!  

And yes you are bargaining. This isn't the kind of business relationship where you get a free consultation, unless other than the preliminary emails and phone calls. I don't know about you but I can pretty much determine whether there's enough of a connection for an appointment from those.  If you can't do that, lot of luck in the hobby!  

Also, to backtrack a bit, do your homework!  That's what this site is for, make use of it -- and if you want reach out to other members who've reviewed her.

And finally -- but not least -- why are you asking this under an alias?  Doing so, and hiding your TER identity -- makes it look like you know perfectly well you're trying to finagle something you're not entitled to

SAP2 1 Reviews 875 reads
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11 / 42
inicky46 61 Reviews 1013 reads
posted
12 / 42

Exactly!   I also knew what he was asking for.  No confusion there.  To repeat, when you ask for a clock-free "get to know you" meeting, you are asking for a freebie by not wanting to pay for her time.  End of story.  Most girls won't even respond to a request like this and will just move on, refusing to answer your emails or calls.
What he really ought to do is, if he qualifies (and given his alias status, who knows), go to some Meet & Greets.  They are great for getting to know girls in a casual social setting, which is the entire purpose of a M&G.  Most cost $100 for an evening of socializing, drinks and light food.  Money well spent.

Sailaon 956 reads
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13 / 42

You sound like the cheapest client who always books an hour, but demands the most bang for the buck. Do you want to interview us? We are not interested. You're not even worth seeing. You're a taker. How much do you want me to bet that you aren't a repeat client, that you don't book long appointments, that you don't ever tip or bring a gift, that you overwhelm providers with your requests, e-mails or phone calls before and after the appointment and that you believe you are a provider's best friend after a short appointment?? Get off your high horse, you aren't a good client. I wouldn't spend a free minute with you, before or after the appointment.

PumpedRidenRough 862 reads
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14 / 42

Why the HELL would a girl do OTC with every guy who wants to see if they click? Yeah ok I could do "freebies" of which you are asking for a good 80 people a week. You either want to meet or not. Shit or get off the pot. Why would you need a meeting anyways if you are doing your research? You pretty well have a good feel on her if you read her reviews.

Perhaps your one time meets are you being too picky. I find it hard to believe that if you are seeing a whole bunch of highly reviewed girls, that it is them. Yeah maybe you don't click with one or two, but all of them? Hey I know you are the farthest thing from a newbie. If you see 20 girls that are high end/well reviewed... and all 20 left you dissatisfied??? STOP being so fukn picky.  

What your OP is about is a great way to get on DNS lists. You are on the wrong site man, you are looking for SB's. Duh

stl6468 5 Reviews 912 reads
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15 / 42

Posted By: inicky46
Exactly!   I also knew what he was asking for.  No confusion there.  To repeat, when you ask for a clock-free "get to know you" meeting, you are asking for a freebie by not wanting to pay for her time.  End of story.  Most girls won't even respond to a request like this and will just move on, refusing to answer your emails or calls.  
 What he really ought to do is, if he qualifies (and given his alias status, who knows), go to some Meet & Greets.  They are great for getting to know girls in a casual social setting, which is the entire purpose of a M&G.  Most cost $100 for an evening of socializing, drinks and light food.  Money well spent.
Good point about M&G's, which I forgot to mention, assuming they are well-run and organized -- but that's another issue all together.

JustAGal See my TER Reviews 1216 reads
posted
16 / 42

They've got great reviews, fabulous decor and certainly look like a place i would like to patronize on regular basis.

I think I am going to email them and ask for one night free of charge to see if I want to stay there in the future.

SindeeNYC See my TER Reviews 1047 reads
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17 / 42



-- Modified on 4/20/2013 6:38:40 AM

JustAGal See my TER Reviews 979 reads
posted
18 / 42

You would like to schedule an appointment with a service provider.  Said service provider charges for her TIME.  Whether you spend this time having sex or discussing current state of politics is irrelevant.

Asking for OTC meeting is the same as asking an attorney to give you free consultation, a doctor to treat you for free, a hotel to provide you with free accommodations etc etc.

If you must have such OTC meeting, then you are better off with either going to M&G or sticking to SB/SD playground.



SindeeNYC See my TER Reviews 915 reads
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20 / 42

Posted By: Tenderfoot123456
First of all I would never say that a high end companion's service is the equivalent of picking a hotel room.  So your trite analogy is way off.  But I bet if I went to the front desk and asked if I could see me room before booking it for a week they wouldn't have an issue with that.  The closest thing I would say I'm looking for would be a meet and greet but I'm not comfortable with that format.    
   
 Someone mentioned a SB/SD arrangement.  Perhaps that's what I'm looking for??  
   
Posted By: dddbabe
They've got great reviews, fabulous decor and certainly look like a place i would like to patronize on regular basis.  
   
 I think I am going to email them and ask for one night free of charge to see if I want to stay there in the future.  
   
 

whitneywilcoxx See my TER Reviews 1025 reads
posted
21 / 42

When we see new  clients, we're looking for new regulars to add to OUR rotation as well, so some of us choose wisely when it comes to new clients.

If you see her for coffee or whatever OTC, you're using time she could be spending with an actual paying client so I'd offer to pay her something at least.  After all, you're technically paying for 'companionship', regardless of the activities performed during your encounter.  

If it's really necessary for you to meet with her before an actual appointment, I'd suggest seeing a provider who offers coffee or drink dates.  These are specifically for things like that.  I've seen providers offer those types of appointments for $100, or at least less than $200.  Either way, you're going to have to spend a little money to find what you like, just like every other hobbyist who goes in search of a new girl to add to their 'stable', so to speak.  

After finding a great 'regular', I'm sure she'll do drinks off the clock anytime you'd like if you treat her well =)  

Good luck.

Sailaon 1089 reads
posted
22 / 42

A hobbyist looking for a sugar baby/sugar daddy agreement is actually a cheap client looking for a discount. Like anyone is going to fall for that, especially the high end companions you're interested in. Not even a sugar baby would have a free lunch meeting with you, daddy. Go back to the dating scene.

kendalllynn See my TER Reviews 996 reads
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23 / 42

Wanted to deduct the time it took for showers on either end of a one hour booking ? You didn't want to personally lose one minute of time yet you find it to be a good idea for her to lose an hour plus travel  to have lunch with you ? I don't get it why is your time more valuable than hers ? Kendall Lynn

FBSM 903 reads
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24 / 42
Zing!!! 1037 reads
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25 / 42

Kendall wouldn't piss on you if you were doused in gasoline, lit on fire and desperately waving around your couple of grand as payment.

You stupid fuck.

kendalllynn See my TER Reviews 1032 reads
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26 / 42

Here is the link in which you asked  in that post about the showers  "Solo Showers ".
You shouldn't get so angry you had no issue with it then.
Also , please realise so you don't get so pissed when someone calls you on it , you using a alias does not mean your posts are not searchable threw our search function here at the top of the page  . If you enter your name Tenderfoot12345 You will find among your other posts this one  , your welcome:  

Ladies- On the Clock???  
Posted 10/17/2012 6:03:56 AM by Tenderfoot123456  

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=2&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&Search=shower&SearchType=1&Author=tenderfoot123456&DayFrom=330&DayTo=0&MessageID=205683&frmSearch=1#205683

Have a nice day ,Kendall Lynn

Zing!!! 886 reads
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27 / 42
inicky46 61 Reviews 934 reads
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28 / 42

and will again, I'd say you'd be wise to know who your're talking about before you slam her, toad.  As to the rest of your drivel, keep in mind the old saying:
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

Posted By: Tenderfoot123456
No Ms. Lynn I'm afraid you must have me confused with someone else.  Perhaps if you didn't find your clients at truck stops or street corners you would have a better idea of where I was coming from.  As I usually only see upper end VIP  companions my thought is before I drop a couple grand perhaps I can see if we are compatable.  I perceive each encounter, perhaps you have never had repeat business, almost as a date wherever get to know one another better mentally as well as physically.  
   
Posted By: kendalllynn
Wanted to deduct the time it took for showers on either end of a one hour booking ? You didn't want to personally lose one minute of time yet you find it to be a good idea for her to lose an hour plus travel  to have lunch with you ? I don't get it why is your time more valuable than hers ? Kendall Lynn

nycad 20 Reviews 1036 reads
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SindeeNYC See my TER Reviews 930 reads
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30 / 42

Standing higher end ladies on this board with a stellar reputation. But being the "high end" roller that you claim to be you must have allready known that?? Funny, you say there's ANOTHER guy using the alias "tenderfoot" on the NY board?? What are the chances??  

Posted By: Tenderfoot123456
No Ms. Lynn I'm afraid you must have me confused with someone else.  Perhaps if you didn't find your clients at truck stops or street corners you would have a better idea of where I was coming from.  As I usually only see upper end VIP  companions my thought is before I drop a couple grand perhaps I can see if we are compatable.  I perceive each encounter, perhaps you have never had repeat business, almost as a date wherever get to know one another better mentally as well as physically.  
   
Posted By: kendalllynn
Wanted to deduct the time it took for showers on either end of a one hour booking ? You didn't want to personally lose one minute of time yet you find it to be a good idea for her to lose an hour plus travel  to have lunch with you ? I don't get it why is your time more valuable than hers ? Kendall Lynn

AlexandraMarie See my TER Reviews 950 reads
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Posted By: dddbabe
They've got great reviews, fabulous decor and certainly look like a place i would like to patronize on regular basis.

I think I am going to email them and ask for one night free of charge to see if I want to stay there in the future.

AlexandraMarie See my TER Reviews 909 reads
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33 / 42

Call the Four Seasons RIGHT NOW, fool!  They will not let you look at a room they will send you to their web site saying you can see the rooms there.  If you call the corporate office the will refer you to their long-standing reputation and reviews on hotels.com, Travelocity, etc.  then, if you continue to be a whiny bitch trying to get something for free they will make a note of your name and number on the caller iD and continue to ignore your contact or demand a credit card number for a deposit so they are compensated for any more time you may waste with a deposit.

A legit hotel guest will pay up and so will a legit hobbyist.  The Four Seasons only deals with legit paying clientele, not pussies hiding behind an alias trying to get free stuff.

"But you're being so mean, Alex!" you cry in your whiny voice as you stare at your computer screen with your limp dick in your hand.  "You're not the girl I want to meet and I really am a good guy.  I just want to make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck."

You're talking about a PROFESSIONAL ESCORT.  If course you're going to get bang for your buck, that's what we do for a living.  Unless you smell like shit which is quite possible because your head is obviously very far up your ass.

 
Posted By: Tenderfoot123456
First of all I would never say that a high end companion's service is the equivalent of picking a hotel room.  So your trite analogy is way off.  But I bet if I went to the front desk and asked if I could see me room before booking it for a week they wouldn't have an issue with that.  The closest thing I would say I'm looking for would be a meet and greet but I'm not comfortable with that format.    
   
 Someone mentioned a SB/SD arrangement.  Perhaps that's what I'm looking for??  
   
Posted By: dddbabe
They've got great reviews, fabulous decor and certainly look like a place i would like to patronize on regular basis.  
   
 I think I am going to email them and ask for one night free of charge to see if I want to stay there in the future.  
   
 

JustAGal See my TER Reviews 993 reads
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34 / 42

What? Nobody wants to play with Mr High Roller in his lonely sandbox?

Sometimes all the money in the world is not enough to put up with ......

JadaMonroe See my TER Reviews 981 reads
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35 / 42
inicky46 61 Reviews 871 reads
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36 / 42

But there's no way to know if the OP would qualify for admission.  As you know, heavy screening is involved for everyone's security.

EveAlexander See my TER Reviews 930 reads
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37 / 42

This is psych profiling 101, albeit the sort we all engage in when seeking out play partners (platonic or erotic) to create or reinforce our own personal life scripts, or to fill needs.  

I'd put down money that what Tenderfoot is "interviewing" for is not to ensure they're both dog people, both like long walks on the beach, and both prefer situational humor to stand up jokes, but rather for certain psychological buttons. In this case, it could be a woman who is willing to break her own rules for him (which could either allow him to bolster beliefs of being special/entitled/powerful, and/or he's on the hunt for someone he can exploit-that is, a crack in the dam so that he can further chip down her personal boundaries). Why would I put money on this? Because this is one of the few items that cannot be assessed through reviews, a lady's website/blog, and mutual correspondence. It can only be assessed through reactions to this sort of interviewing "test." If he were to respect her by compensating her for her time, regardless of the activity or location, he ends up in a crap shoot of potentially investing in the women who will not meet his psychological needs.

It also merits him having a more fulfilling time with a psychologist than a companion.

Men who are actually interested in co-weaving the subtitles of connection, particularly long term connection, rather than testing the waters to see if they can get a different kind of fix, request cocktail and dinner dates, or occasionally a social only first encounter WITHOUT mention or request of a special rate.

Zing!!! 990 reads
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38 / 42

indicates no such subtlety and obliqueness of thought.

Garden variety miserliness....

drrrtylittlesecret 966 reads
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Posted By: Tenderfoot123456
No Ms. Lynn I'm afraid you must have me confused with someone else.  Perhaps if you didn't find your clients at truck stops or street corners you would have a better idea of where I was coming from.  As I usually only see upper end VIP  companions my thought is before I drop a couple grand perhaps I can see if we are compatable.  I perceive each encounter, perhaps you have never had repeat business, almost as a date wherever get to know one another better mentally as well as physically.  
   
Posted By: kendalllynn
Wanted to deduct the time it took for showers on either end of a one hour booking ? You didn't want to personally lose one minute of time yet you find it to be a good idea for her to lose an hour plus travel  to have lunch with you ? I don't get it why is your time more valuable than hers ? Kendall Lynn

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 920 reads
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42 / 42

I have a M&G option on my website fore $160 to see if we have chemistry prior to play.  I often attempt to attend M&G's on TER to find connections, but I have to pay for childcare regardless, so why should you get to enjoy a top rated providers company in a public setting for nada?

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